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This was not the mea culpa I was expecting in this thread

I’m with you on this. If we drafted him at 25, we’d have spent three first round picks and two second round picks on our current DL. Then there’s the issue of him being a very one dimensional player. Don’t get me wrong - he is phenomenal in that one dimension, but it’s still just the one. And it’s the one that has a lot less value than the other in today’s NFL. That all said, I can totally see him being the Bills choice if he makes it to 25.

Apparently the Steelers are in love with Malik Willis. They’ve been really bad at hiding their draft intentions of late, so it’s believable. For example, it was widely known that they were planning to draft Najee Harris with their 1st round pick well before last year’s draft. Looks like Willis is their guy this year.

They went from 7-9 to 10-7. An improvement, sure, but people act like they were 3-13 in 2020. And, yes, the FAs helped them with some of that modest improvement. They improved at some positions even if it was just from a total liability to a serviceable player. Ditto with Jones at QB. A total liability at QB the prior season improved to serviceable with him playing. Low expectations should not factor into the situation.

I get that the team improved, but I can’t believe that voters attributed that to him and not the bajillion dollars the Pats* spent in FA. In addition to that he was a serviceable QB. That doesn’t equal OROY votes to me.

How TF did Mac Jones get 5 votes?

I don’t remember what Kelly said after SBXXV. That was 31 years ago. Allen said pretty much what I’d have expected someone in his position to say. And let’s not forget that this was a divisional round loss, not a SB loss. He said the right thing, but it was pretty boilerplate. As for the circumstances, this was bad and it was on the coaching staff. It didn't happen in a SB, but it wasn’t a kicker missing a FG or a fluke (probably illegal) play. It was our coaches sh*****g the bed.

Very much disagree with this. The losing team always gets second guesses in games like this. That means nothing. The real problems are the crucial mistakes made by the Bills here. Specifically those were: - the failure to get the proper play call to the kicker - the choice to defend the sidelines at the expense of the middle of the field during the last 13 seconds when KC had time outs left - also during the last 13 seconds of regulation showing KC our defense twice, taking a TO and not changing our alignment or play call Those are all inexcusable. Mahomes had to make two very easy throws before the kicker made a 49 yd FG. This was different than Wide Right and MCM in one important way - those were on players. This game was on the coaches (at least the end of regulation was). Allen’s performance was absolutely stellar in that game. But what was so unique and noteworthy about his reaction to it? I have no idea what you could be referring to. Please enlighten us all.

The funniest thing about this topic isn’t how unrealistic the trade proposal is. It isn’t thinking that a move from 25 to 1 is at all feasible. It’s suggesting that we try to get to #1 overall in a draft where no team wants that pick. It is a boat anchor.

He’s not getting traded this off-season. But if he were to be, then the answer would be the same as if he blew his knee out doing squats today: whomever we could sign or draft to fill that hole. In the meantime, probably Klein would be at the top of the depth chart. As it stands the Bills have an extra year to find contingencies. Also since players do get injured and miss time, finding a backup for his position should be on the To Do List anyway.

A couple of seasons ago some of us dug into the contract info on Star and found that it was incorrect on both sites (albeit differently). I can’t remember who here discovered it, but kudos to them. We were able to figure out what it really was at the time. Both sites have recently fixed it. The mistakes were probably due to the reworked deal.

If Edmunds is not being utilized to his strengths, then this isn’t the defense for him. The market would dictate that he should get a deal from a team with a defense where he would be. I really don’t think that is it though. Why would Edmunds be open to signing a 2 year deal? Some team with a bunch of space will probably do way better than that. I have speculated that the reason the Bills waited so long to pick up Edmunds’ option was because they were trying to negotiate a LTD that fit with his value to the team. If I am correct then I’d expect him to hit FA next offseason. An MLB replacement that can do everything that McDermott wants will be difficult to find. Replacing Edmunds’ on field production won’t be. CB2 is a far greater and more immediate need. Hell, CB1 is too if Tre can’t go week 1. But that has nothing to do with how much of a need there is at MLB probably starting next offseason.

Thanks for the info. TEs seem to be getting paid these days. I see Knox as a guy who is in the fat part of the bell curve amongst TEs, but those guys are still getting surprisingly fat contracts. From a value standpoint it makes sense that Knox does very well since he is on his rookie contract. I’m a lot less excited about what that value would be if he was getting paid north of $10M/season. We will have to wait and see the contract he gets and who signs him to it. Side note, my daughter has waited on him (restaurant) and said that he is very nice.

And the best thing for a pass rush is excellent, sustained coverage.

Excellent hire (unfortunately). I wonder if he even had time to sell his house in Baltimore. Only in Ann Arbor for a year.

I mean, they were almost .500 one of those seasons

Why would the Giants want Edmunds?

Was that actually considered failure by Illinois standards?

I was responding to your statement about cutting Star post 6/1. I stated what their realistic course of action would be and was not commenting on your other discussion. Your numbers match what I posted earlier. My specific point about him being cut by March 26th and designated a 6/1 cut concerns his $500k 3/26 roster bonus and $250k work out bonus. The team would have to pay those if he was not released until after 6/1. That $750k would also hit our cap.

There’s a very real possibility that a WR is the BPA at 25. I’d prefer that BPA be at a different position, but if Chris Olave or Jameson Williams is sitting there and there isn’t a great choice at CB, DL, etc., then I know what I’m doing.

If cut, they’d designate him as a 6/1 cut. (Teams get 2 per year.) That means Star would stay on our books until 6/1, but off-season bonuses would be void. It also eliminates any potential for obligation resulting from him being injured in team activities. And he’d be free to sign elsewhere immediately.

The Texans could do worse in their situation. Smith is a high character guy who has a ton of head coaching experience. He’s there to help stabilize the organization and get it on solid ground. That’s no easy feat after their severe BoBing. He’s 63 so this run is probably it for him.

I’d think there would be little to do with the NYG as far as player trades. With a new regime the two big drivers usually are: - Poor scheme fit of existing players. As I’d expect Daboll to require similar skill sets to those on our roster I’d expect him to be getting rid of players that don’t fit our system. He might want to acquire players from us, but we really don’t have anyone of high value to give up. Maybe just looking at a depth player with upside. - Shedding older, higher priced vets to purge cap. Really don’t see the fit here. We aren’t looking to take on many big contracts. I see pick for picks draft weekend trades as more likely.

No. I said after their first year and I also mentioned scheme changes. Hughes had been in Indy for three seasons when he was traded. Indy also had coaching changes and changed from a 4-3 to a 3-4 between the time he was drafted and traded.

The whole back seven was awful in that game and several of the others had good seasons too. They’ll be fine if they can adequately replace him. I was wondering if this was in the cards. We need depth there and that’s still a bargain for him.