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Every PSL I have seen works as I described. They each give the owner the right to buy the season ticket for that seat. They are immediately forfeited if the owner does not purchase a season ticket.

I’m sure you’ll be here for quite awhile. Still, I’m glad for all of us who get to see this run.

I think that a PAT by the team possessing first and a 2 point conversion by the team possessing second will be the norm when both score TDs. Better that than allowing a FG to beat you. During the regular season with a 10 minute OT there usually won’t be time for a fourth possession anyway (if this gets adopted for the regular season).

In other cases I have seen, the PSLs are immediately forfeited if season tickets are not renewed. NYS would get some props from me if they disallowed that practice. I have not heard of any such law and Google is giving me nothing on it. Please link to that info if you have it. Or are you just speculating? It would be at the time people reserve their season tickets at the new stadium. I am sure there will be payment plans.

I agree. But people should also consider the possibility of having to move for work, moving for retirement, possible financial changes, etc. what’re the odds of life getting in the way 5 or 10 years from now and how big of a financial impact would something like this be? obviously everybody can make their own financial decisions, but it is easy for people to get caught up in the moment of something like this.

Purchase of a PSL allows and obligates the season ticket holder to purchase season tickets every year. You won’t be able to purchase them without one. Also won’t be able to decline purchase of your season tickets without selling or losing your PSL. This last point is an important one. If the team goes on a bad run and there is low demand for PSLs and season tickets, then the PSL holders would have a tough decision. The choices would be to: 1) continue to buy season tickets they might not want, 2) sell their PSLs at a loss or 3) if there is no PSL market walk away and allow their PSLs to revert back to the team. In the last instance the team could sell those seats as single game tickets until demand picked back up. At that time the team could resell the PSLs and pocket that money.

Why would re-signing a guard impact whether or not we draft a tackle?

I’d like to participate. I’ll take the Broncos, Dolphins or Texans. Thanks.

This is a terrible way to look at the cap impact. First year cap hits can always be minimized. They neglect to mention that Williams and Feliciano now have $5.1M in dead cap this year and Saffold will have $2M in dead cap next year. They turned Williams and Feliciano’s cap hit total of $14M into a total cap hit of $13.5M (est) this year plus $2M next year to make the swap. I’ll be happy with the swap if we upgraded, but pretending that we just improved our cap is ridiculous.

Fifth year options are not negotiable in that they are set by the CBA rules. They are replaceable in that the player and team can agree to replace it with any contract they want. That includes a one year deal for the exact same total amount, but split between signing bonus and salary.

That’s just not true. It isn’t in the CBA anywhere. While Allen got a longer contract, his fifth year option is no longer in place. In other words, his contract was not extended, it was replaced by a longer one. Also even if an extension was required (and it’s not) there would be nothing stopping a team from using automatically (or easily) voided seasons to do that.

No extension is required. If the Browns want to convert some of Mayfield’s salary into a signing bonus, he has to agree to it. That effectively gives him the ability to chose whether he will go to a specific team or not. Obviously if no salary conversion is needed, the Browns can trade him wherever they want.

You should note the part you bolded. NO UNILATERAL RIGHT. It is something that both sides have to agree to and is permissible under that circumstance.

I know that’s not correct. I think you’re mixing up some of the rules for franchise tags. And even if it was, then the team could just extend the contract using void years. 5th year options are fully guaranteed, but the contract can be altered (unlike the franchise tag after a certain date). Allen’s was altered. It wasn’t just extended, but the salary in his his fifth year option year was reduced substantially. Obviously he got a big signing bonus before then, but that’s not substantially different than what I was talking about with Mayfield.

Then Browns would still have to pay Mayfield his whole contract if they released him. No way are they doing that. It would make far more sense for them to wait for a trade partner and pick up part of his salary if they even have to do that. It would be better for Mayfield to be traded rather than sit inactive for a season. He could agree to convert part of his salary to a signing bonus. The Browns would pay that and his new team would pay his remaining salary. Seems straight forward and better for all parties.

Florio is so slimy. Those Beane quotes are from a week ago - before the Hill trade and new deal. They play a little differently if people think they were on the heels of that. He’s just trying to stir the pot.

His salary is fully guaranteed. Other than the roster spot (which would be filled by a player whose salary also would count toward the cap) they’d gain nothing. They could keep him for part/all of the season. He could compete with Brissett for the back up spot. If he wants to start somewhere else in the league, then he can man up and entice the other teams while Watson is suspended. That’s a tough road, but I think that after Watson’s suspension is announced the Browns may say that he could start during that time. That’d mostly be a move to try to improve his trade value though. I think they do eventually trade him. If they can’t, then I think the likely scenario is that he sits the year as inactive for every game unless suspension and/or injury require the team to make him active. I doubt he actually plays unless it’s an emergency. They’ll at least get a comp pick out of it that way.

Musical bingo. Clips of songs that contestants have to recognize to mark off their cards. You can do rounds with different kinds of music. Bills players can compete with, for or against fans for prizes. I like the idea of “with” or “for” fans rather than against them.

I know for a fact it happened in Cleveland. It must have happened elsewhere too. They were so bad for so long people just turned them in so they didn’t have to buy the season tickets. Many PSL holders also sold theirs for pennies on the dollar. Then the Browns offered the tickets of the turned in PSLs for sale as single game seats until the market picked back up. Then they sold the PSLs again.

31 pages and we don’t even know the offer. Wow

Y’all need to look at some facts: Adams and Hill aren’t getting $30M a year either, unless they play out their deals. Adams is getting an AAV of $22.5M for the next 3 years and Hill am AAV of $23.7M over the next 4 years. Spotrac article. Diggs is in the last two seasons of a $14.4 AAV deal. The cash remaining is $13.5M and $13.7M. I’m sure he’s looking in the $20M-$22.5M AAV range for years he will realistically be playing for an extension. The Bills could do a four year extension with a big signing bonus and a couple huge salaries he will never see at the end. That would lower his 2022 cap hit and everyone here would call Beane a magician. IMO the odds that Diggs plays on this deal in 2022 are slim to none. The Hill deal hurts. It is better than the Adams deal and Adams is WR1 in the NFL. Hill and Diggs are both arguably top 5. I thinks Diggs gets a deal that pays him $80M-$88M over four years to stay. That or we have to ship him off for picks because O can’t believe that he is playing this year on his current deal.

The optics are for people who do not want public money spent on stadiums and who do not attend games. It’s money that comes straight from people who go to games/buy tickets. There is also a sneakier angle. It is an additional revenue stream for owners if the team gets bad for long enough for people to turn their PSLs back in to the team because there is no market for them. The team can then resell them when the market picks back up and keep that money.

People do them to have something football related to talk about this time of year. They are pretty worthless until just before the draft. There are other things to be gleaned from research that goes into a draft class, however. For example, this is a pretty poor DT draft class. The Bills recognized that and made filling their needs at DT a priority in FA. There was a writer for Dallas’ paper that usually had the best mock. He only did one and it was always right before the draft. He was pretty dialed in with NFL FOs though. I just can’t remember his name or find it easily via Google. They are useful to teams too. They can get a feel for how to react if the real draft breaks one way or another. They can also determine which other teams are likely to be interested in the same prospects as they are. Accuracy varies widely, obviously. Here is a link to a site that tracks mock draft accuracy.

Yup. Roethlisberger soon will be honored with a HOF gold jacket. Multiple accusations of flat out rape seem a distant memory. Not many Steelers fans seemed to have minded. Ray Lewis’s involvement in a double murder was gave way to his “redemption” story, complete with his hands folded in prayer on an SI cover. Bills fans aren’t immune to this either. The majority here want OJ Simpson’s name to remain on the the Bills Wall of Fame. Jim Kelly remains a fan favorite and is the most beloved former Bills QB. His repeated physical abuse of his wife and infidelity don’t seem to bother most fans. Obviously every fan is free to make up their own mind about such things and set their own limits, but some should take a look in the mirror before getting up on their high horse. I will leave this discussion there.

I agree with pretty much all of this. One thing I’d add is that I have heard that the Stefanski offense was dialed way back for Mayfield. It remains to be seen how it’ll look with Watson at QB and you can certainly argue that the Wide Zone wasn’t a fit at all for Mayfield. It’ll be interesting to see if he can be effective elsewhere. If he was limited by having his back to so many plays with so much play action or if the problem is him getting beyond his first read in any offense. Some team will take a shot on him. I suspect that it is slow going right now because he’s still recovering from surgery.