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The study is clearly indicating that giving vaccine is to children at this point is a terrible decision. At this point my next time of concern will be when I have grandkids so I have not delved into the details. I am curious what is wrong with the study because the numbers they are producing are not something that could be easily hidden if true.

"Rachel" Levine was second in command at the HHS under Biden. My point is if HHS is well run I would be shocked. I have seen no evidence that the government is well run in any of the departments at any level or even knows what it's job is functionally. One place we actually agree is that the US dept are more competent than other countries, but that is an extremely low bar, seeing as half of the world's governments are openly corrupt. We won't agree on this because I find the waste and political manipulation surrounding COVID to be appalling The requirement of children to get the shot immoral, and yes that is the proper word. I do appreciate your thoughts and honest discussion, because often this place gets just name calling and I am trying to be better about that.

This place has been well designed for at least 8 years, how have the others not improved? Good post.

I I have dealt with FEMA and they were incompetent 20 years ago and have gotten worse. As I stated I personally know two of the government nuclear experts, and they are not experts, one of the last leader of the HHS was a mentally man pretending to be a woman. If you believe it was well run over the past 20 years after watching it botch COVID in every way possible I will never convince you. And your point about some of them being boots on the ground type of guys does not make them competent people and especially does not mean there input is ever used

That is a good point, Palmer did his job well, but other than Josh and a few others the ball won't get there fast enough to make it in time

That throw was magnificent, but it gets skipped because Josh made it look easy. Palmer was "wide" open because Josh gets it there so fast.

yes of course you always rip apart liberals, you can't show a single example ever, but I believe you. I can show where I have disagreed with Trump this week but go ahead and say I worship him, you don't sound like you have TDS.

I asked a simple question and you immediately attacked me, sounds like someone knows he is lying.

MAGA stands up for innocent people, you stand up for the criminals. If you disagree explain why the lady on The Charlotte bus is dead?

Your pilot situation is a good example of my expert vs governments. I would prefer the guy who has been flying a777 for 15 years into and out of 100 airports to tell me what is happening with it. Government experts have read about it, sometimes not for that long, and understand in a textbook world but that does not exist. also I get the issues with Hep B, but for an illness that comes from specific situations, fluids from infected people, it does not need to be mandated. I have never been in risk of it and making it mandatory is inappropriate.

My numbers came from the CDC, you are welcome to show me what I need to know. you and I do differ in one place, I don't respect government experts abilities to understand the implications of what they do. Too many government experts are not experts at all, I personally know 2 people who are now government "experts" on nuclear weapons, to the point they speak for the US in negotiations with other countries, and they are bright guys but not experts by any reasonable standard.

So I disagree with some of this because I just saw a report of how little doctors understand of the math of vaccines and the tests that they use to diagnose things. I believe 99% of doctors try to be right but the health world is so large now and since each medicine is presented in the numbers that make them look best they don't have time to be correct all the time. I need to learn about my conditions and how to deal with it. As for politicians not believing their own BS, of course we know that, it is why they were exempted from the disaster of Obamacare but that is why we need less mandatory rules.

Actually I just spent 5 minutes doong a little research. The Hep B rate prior to the vaccine was 10 per 100k and it is now 5 per 100k. this never should have been required. Most people don't have behaviors that make it likely they will get it even if they come into contact with people with Hep B. That does not even mention the fact that less than 20% of people with it even have symptoms. On a different note I have been for parents having the right to opt their kids out of vaccines, I got my kids vaccinated on everything recommended up to age 10, but I am smarter than liberal morons.

I am glad you have found something to complain about. What is so funny to me is until 2020 it was liberals who fought to get exemptions. Marin County in CA was considered the least vaccinated area of America in 2015. Imagine having this kind of flip in mentality all because of TDS. https://www.marincounty.gov/news-releases/check-immunizations-your-back-school-list

This dude pops up on my timeline sometimes and I get depressed that he has a following. I read the comments and get more depressed. People are so stupid and are so proud of their their ignorance. Seriously, amortization is a simple concept that they explain to you when you get the mortgage and in any finance class.

We really are at a point that Dems are ok with murders so long as it is not by a gun. They would rather protect violent low life's than protect innocent people. This story is not defensible since this was guaranteed to be the ending eventually and Dems are actively making sure it happens

Did you actually read my post? I will recommend parents get their kids vaccinated but your side showed that you can not be trusted. Literally you hurt kids with no benefits for the kids.

The lack of self awareness from you is amazing.

This is some brilliance here. The government should have the right to demand that you take whatever healthcare professionals say you should for the greater good. I had my kids vaccinated against what I thought was needed and everyone should have the same right. The fact that you still won't admit forcing children to get the COVID shot was evil is mind boggling to me.

I am actually not sure what the point of this is, I have never watched the show but what has Trump done that relates?

Elam was fine yesterday, he was definitely not why the Cowboys lost. I am not surprised he caught on somewhere, he likes playing man defense, the Bills play zone and very few CBs are good at both

because simple research is too hard for you, an illegal in NYS cost $370 a day to the tax payers. The fact that you are arguing that illegals pay more than $370 in taxes a day is laughable. If what you are saying was true the illegals would be paying the vast majority of the taxes in the country. Your "kindness" is bankrupting our country for our children and you are pleased about it because you won't have to live in the bankrupt nation https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7ny.com/amp/post/watchdog-questions-high-cost-sanctuary-new-york-city/16122940/

I will admit it is aggravating when someone is so proud of being stupid. The ignorance being shown on this thread is astounding. Illegals get section 8 housing, they get food stamps, they get schooling, they get clothes. Chicago alone spent billions. Nothing I am saying is new info. It has been easily known for years. The fact that you are asking this question now is pathetic. It would be like asking in 2007 why the US was in Iraq. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/article_b7099305-d374-404e-8bfd-ee4bc3037919.amp.html

Is this your real argument or are you trolling?

Inflation has been 50% since Biden took over, of Americans were to do the picking the higher cost in the grocery store would be minimal compared to government cost to "help" the immigrant. Secondly only an ignorant moron thinks a PHD makes you intelligent or worthy of a job. Your arguments tell me you have never actually had to defend your thoughts vs anyone of average or better intellect.