Kirby Jackson

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The only place that I take issue (and it’s minor) is that I’d have our RBs (Shady) at 2 of 5 instead of 3. I will give David Johnson the top spot (reluctantly). I like the Browns depth there but Shady will be productive again.

This is where I am as well. There are a few guys though that have a shot. How hard would it be for Foster to take a spot from Andre Holmes for example? Thompson has a shot as well. If Boesen shows the ability to rush the passer he will be in the mix. The Bills aren’t overly talented or deep. There is opportunity here for aome of these young guys to get a chance.

It’s the Red Sox in my family. Every generation hates them (except my M!@#$ cousins).

Shocking that this thread is even taking a PPP turn (sarcasm). It’s not that complicated. Don’t say racist stuff and you won’t have to worry about the reprecussions. Even Roseanne doesn’t think that what she said should be defended: https://people.com/tv/roseanne-barr-breaks-silence-after-shows-cancellation-ambien/ It isn’t a political matter or witch hunt. The story isn’t “Roseanne got fired because ABC is run by a bunch of liberals.” The story is “Roseanne got fired for saying dumb, racist stuff.” Let’s not lose sight of that...

He’s one of the most likable players that we’ve had in forever. Tre will be a leader of this team in the near future.

Then I guess we are just viewing that differently. I’m viewing that as “until he’s the best QB on the roster.” He may be handed the keys before he is the most likely QB to win. I don’t even know if that makes sense? I guess that what I’m saying is McCarron may give them the best chance to win against the Titans (for example) but Allen starts if he’s “ready.” Again, that could happen at anytime between now and a year from now. Sounds like we are basically saying the same thing though.

The only issue is that it isn’t “until proven otherwise.” It is “until we think he’s ready.” This team didn’t trade up in the 1st round to have Allen competing for the starting role. It will be given to him as soon as they believe that he is ready. It may not be at all this year. It may be a year from now.

Was anyone else positive that this is how the latest iteration of Roseanne would end? I got “a series of racist tweets” for +240 in Vegas. It was the heavy favorite but also the safest bet :).

Look at the team when he is off the floor...that will tell you everything that you need to know.

I think that you are drunk. He elevates everyone around him. The exact opposite is true. LeBron could go to about half of the teams in the league and win a title immediately. This team he has in the finals now would win 25 games without him.

I watched half of the stadium in Jacksonville filled with Bills fans. Between flights, hotels, food and tickets it had to be $1,000 per person per game. There were 10-20k Bills fans in Atlanta and Carolina as well. I don’t believe that it’s unreasonable at all to pay $100 to $200 a ticket (downstairs) like everyone else in the league does. I don’t for one second think that would equate to a “barely attended stadium.” A nice 65,000 seat stadium would be a great start. A new stadium comes with a clean slate and a culture change. That isn’t to say that tailgating and everything will go away. That is a part of our traditions. Perhaps people getting chokeslammed through flaming tables or throwing bottles at opposing fans will change though?

I like it!!

I’ve been pretty clear on my desire for a new stadium. It is nice on the road to not have people urinating in the sinks, passed out in the concourse or throwing up on the people in front of them. I would be willing to pay more for a better environment. I guess that makes me a bad fan...

That’s makes sense then. I think Allen will see most of his work early with the younger guys down the depth chart. It may not be until camp that he starts working in with the starters. They will be sure to make that happen though. At some point this year we will likely see Allen. I was under the assumption that he would need a year on the bench but it doesn’t sound like that’s the Bills plan.

I guess where I differ is that they aren’t going to give Allen the 3rd most reps (regardless of where he is on the depth chart). He’s the guy that they are grooming. He may not be ready to go Day 1 but it won’t be because he didn’t get the snaps. He will get as many reps leading into the season as anyone.

I don’t have a goal. It may be completely genuine (and I hope that it is). The Bills seem to be heading in a great direction. If Allen can play we may be talking about a contender at this time next year. It’s exciting. The only point that I made in this thread was “don’t read too much into those comments because it’s the same thing owners always say about one another.” That’s the only point and for some reason that’s not acceptable for some. I guess the disconnect is that we don’t view that stance as negative. We view it as common sense to not read into it. When the opposite is said we do the same thing. When Omar Kelly says “the Bills suck” we dismiss that too because it is coming from him. It’s the same message and he has an agenda. These owners are partners not competitors. It’s to all of their benefits to say positive things. Omar Kelly is looking to rile up Bills fans. It’s in his best interest to say negative things. I don’t put much weight into either scenario.

Not trying to decrease the impact!! The point is it isn’t impactful. You could plug any other owner’s name in and get the same comments to NoSaint’s point. The initial premise of the thread (which is still lost on you) was that these comments mean something. They don’t. Go back and read the initial post. I responded to the topic. I don’t care at all if they say positive things on the record. I’m actually surprised that some people are naive enough to see this as anything more than general lip service.

Not negating anything just trying to be intelligent enough to know that’s it’s a puff piece. Bills fans are so desperate to be “good enough” that they seek anything positive as a sign of validation. This story doesn’t tell us anything. That’s not be negative; it’s being honest. As I've said about 30 times on here Kim has a vital role moving forward. Her unique perspective is important to the NFL. I’m still waiting for someone to provide quotes of owners talking negative about other owners on the record? If you want to start posting them I’ll be impressed that they said nice things. If not, this is just the same thing that owners always say about each other.

I would feel totally differently because it would be WAY out of character for an owner to bad mouth another owner. That would be all over NFL Network and ESPN. It would be a story. Owners saying nice things about one another isn’t a story.

Ha ha, no problem (as long as you were drinking good beer).

I wouldn’t know Iron Maiden if they were in my living room. I appreciate your dedication to trying to spark conversation on them though. You have my respect. You need to tag @Buffalo Barbarian though. He will be in on this conversation (at least I think).

Now the game is over, so I guess I should respond. You did ask a question. I think that that you are finally getting there. “They have no reason to answer dishonestly?” If they say anything even remotely disparaging it’s a mess. If they say “no comment” it is interpreted as a negative. If they say something nice it is a non-story. This is you telling your in-laws “it was great.” Maybe it was? Maybe it wasn’t? It is much easier to say it was and move on. I’m not even sure what I’d be envious of because I’m not talking about people. I’m talking about the way that owners handled questions. So, if you want me to leave stop asking questions. I’m your dream Augie!