Kirby Jackson

They were never going to let him go. It sounds like hyperbole but Taysom Hill is, arguably, the most popular player on their team. He’s like Mike Jasper on steroids.

I was actually thinking the same thing today. I’m a gym wiper but mostly because I’m a bit of a germaphobe. I feel like younger people are better about it but that may just be my perception. I’m 38 and feel like I kind of fall in the middle-aged club. I went at 10 AM today which is prime older crowd and they were wiping things down. I was impressed.

They didn’t stop because they would have showed weakness. They would have admitted being wrong. Again, everything I’ve predicted on the topic for years is coming true. The CBA is a natural clean break. It downplays it. Instead of making it THE story it’s a piece of the story. I don’t know why you believe that the owners want it? You just said it wasn’t good for business. That’s the entire point. Both sides know that so it’s going away. In terms of the spin they’d absolutely play that hand of the league pushed back!! Again, that’s the point. That hand will NEVER get played because the league is in agreement with the players. They both want the same thing!! Also, referencing an NCAA poll from 2009 is laughable on the marijuana subject. That’s like asking people how often they drank during prohibition. The world in 2020 is NOTHING like 2009 on the subject.

That’s fair (even though at the time many thought he should have set it).

You’re missing my point. They will TRY to use this as a negotiating chip but both sides know that’s a bluff. The PR spin from the player’s would be so strong it would make the league look foolish. “They say that they care about player safety yet they hand out opioids like candy. Roughly 47,000 people die each year from opioid overdoses. The NFL has decided that’s a safer route for us as players. Do they care about us? They talk a big game but their actions say otherwise.” The league looks bad in 2020 suspending guys for weed. That’s just the way that it is. They know that. That is where we differ. You believe that the owner’s think it’s good for business. They don’t. They don’t like the idea of losing talent for something widely accepted and legal in MANY places. They get criticized for their position. Their league looks like it has a bunch of addicts when they are no worse than other leagues on the subject. Making it go away is what’s best for the owners and players.

That’s probably close to right. Based on the guys that I know that played recently the overwhelming majority partake. It may be edibles, vape, etc... but it’s not a couple of guys doing it. It’s a couple of guys not.

Not IMO, situations change. He was an extreme example, as an undrafted guy that was early in a HOF career. He’s the exception to the rule.

I think that this is a good point. It was the wrong decision but may not have mattered.

We 1,000% disagree on the subject. Everything I’ve said for years is coming to fruition as I said it would. The league cares about “the shield.” The perception of a drug problem is not good for “the shield.” It’s a self-imposed problem. The world, country and science has evolved greatly on the subject since the last CBA. The other leagues have adopted “don’t ask, don’t tell.” That’s what the NFL wants regardless of the other terms of the new CBA. They look foolish pumping out opioids and suspending for weed in 2020. This isn’t a negotiating chip because both sides want the same thing!! Now, in terms of other drugs maybe so. I’ll buy that. I’m ONLY talking about marijuana. Also, what’s your estimate on % of players that smoke? From my experience and the people that I know it’s well over 70%.

Not wanting to be somewhere and wanting fair market value are 2 different things. Jason Peters wasn’t wrong; the Bills were. Now it wasn’t a total disaster because Wood turned out to be a quality player. The Bills certainly lost the trade though. They should have just paid Peters.

He went for the pick that became Wood

I fell in love with Nashville last year. I’d never really been there. That’s going on my list forever. Vegas is kind of a novelty and should be fun. I’m weird on that place though. I’ve been 6 times in my life. Twice I loved it, twice I hated it and twice I was indifferent. If either of those fall around Christmas though I’m probably out. I go back to Buffalo for that. I won’t do them back-to-back either.

I’m going to do Vegas and Nashville assuming that it isn’t Christmas. I may do one more (London if they’re there interests me). I did 4 road games and 2 home games last year which was just too much traveling. Houston was the only game I could drive to. It was wearing me out. I’m thinking the aforementioned 2 games, home opener and if there’s anything home around Christmas or Thanksgiving. I’ll hopefully be attending playoff games as well.

FWIW, I’ve heard that the Saints are in Vegas week 2. We will see I guess. I’m not sure if that will be their home opener or not. I was kind of hoping that the Bills wouldn’t be their first home game. The tickets will be triple what they’d be otherwise.

Regardless of the 17 games or not the marijuana testing is going away. It’s not something that the owner’s want either. The NFLPA knows this. It’s not a leverage chip for that. It’s a bad look for everyone in 2020 when a player gets suspended for weed. The other leagues have already figured that out. It’s going regardless of what else comes. It’s a black eye for the league and the players.

I voted no; he will be a guard. He could be really good inside IMO but he struggled at tackle.

If you look back over the last 3 years you’ll see me saying that’s EXACTLY what was going to happen. (pats self on back) These TBD fools

Yeah, this was such a no brainer. The NFL didn’t want guys missing 4 games for weed any more than the NFLPA. It’s a bad look for everyone. It looks like the NFL has a drug problem while the NBA, as an example, is fine. The reality is they are all smoking weed. It’s WAY over half of the players in both leagues. The difference is the NBA treated it as “out of sight, out of mind” and the NFL played police. The NFL already has image concerns with domestic violence. It’s in their best interest to let minor stuff like weed go. That was true before it was so socially accepted but especially true during the opioid crisis. That gives them cover. Ha ha, I supplied a good number of these fools in Houston!!

Raise your hand if you’ve been saying that this would happen for years

Go!! Don’t live in fear. I’m going on a few weeks. It’s funny though I had a work trip Monday cancelled and one in 2 weeks cancelled. I’m thrilled about that.

I’m over the whole “not a process guy” thing. The Bills had a trade worked out for ANTONIO BROWN!!! The assumption that the Bills will only entertain certain personalities is not just misguided, it’s wrong. When Beane and McDermott arrived they wanted to establish a core in the locker room. They did that. They then negotiated a deal for ANTONIO BROWN!! Stop looking at every player through the “not a process lens” and figure out if the guy makes sense for the Bills. In Williams case, at his position and at his contract demands, I don’t think it makes sense.

Who though and at what price?

We disagree here. He is in rapid decline and CERTAINLY was outplayed by Tannehill last year and maybe even Jimmy G at times. They are heading in different directions. Brady is a mid level starter in 2020. That’s exactly what those other guys are. With that Patriots defense those guys could absolutely win as many games as Brady would!! That’s why the Patriots are okay letting him leave. BB can be ruthless but if he thought that Brady was the best option they’d meet his number.

I’m not sure how you’re going to do better than another 900 yard receiver and a guy at 22? The guys just aren’t there. To do better you’ll have to either trade up for one of the top 3 or for a vet.

At this point Brady is no better than those guys IMO and trending in opposite directions. The Patriots won with defense over the last 2 years not Brady. I think you’re remembering Brady at his best. 2019: Brady - 60.9% completion, 253.6 ypg, 24 TDs, 8 INTs, 6.8 YPA, 88 rating, 52.5 QBR Jimmy G - 69.1% completion, 248.6 ypg, 27 TD, 13 INTs, 9.3 ypa, 102 rating, 60.2 QBR Tannehill (extrapolated over 16 games) - 70.3% completion, 228.5 ypg, 32 TDs, 8 INTs, 9.6 YPA, 117.5 rating, 65.4 QBR Teddy (extrapolated over 16 games) - 67.9% completion, 153.8 YPG, 28 TDs, 6 INTs, 7.5 YPA, 99.1 rating, 45 QBR There isn’t a big difference at this point.