Kirby Jackson

I think RT is the biggest need on the roster at the moment. I just don’t see the guy that moves the needle. The only needle mover on the market for the Bills still is Clowney IMO.

Well, if they were interested it would absolutely be at Murphy’s expense. It’s a situation where they may say “Murphy at $10M or Clowney at $18M?” That’s the kind of decision that they would make. The $8M savings from Murphy would immediately be applied to Clowney.

I never understood the bolded. What does that mean? Athletes want to go to the best situation. There are a lot of factors with money being at or near the top. I never got the “he won’t want to be in Buffalo” sentiment. In general, the Bills have always recruited well in FA. With his market dropping I think it becomes more likely. Maybe that wasn’t their plan but at some point the value meets the opportunity. I’m not saying it’s likely but the odds increase every hour that passes.

Yeah, there are certainly concerns. It’s the type of “all in” move that a team makes chasing a Super Bowl. You gamble and hope to be right. It’s a move I’d be interested in. I’m not as high on Ngakoue personally and he’d cost draft compensation as well. I wouldn’t hate it but may prefer Murphy + picks + savings in that case.

You’re with me if they could get Clowney for AAV of $18M?

If you are looking at his sacks you are missing his impact. His pressure rate ranks right there with the best in the league. He’s in the backfield often. He’s really good against the run as well (where Murphy has a target on his back in the run game). Murphy is an okay player. Clowney is a dominant player (albeit it sometimes inconsistent). There is a reason that Seattle is trying hard to bring him back.

I don’t see Clowney getting $20M. That’s what he wanted and hasn’t yet seen the market there. I’d shoot for Clowney at 3 years , $54M with $32M guaranteed (something like that). I’d give Clowney $18M a year over $10M a year for Murphy 8 days a week. That pretty much guarantees that the Bills have the best defense in the league. Additionally, you would have him for a couple more years which is important. Murphy and Hughes could be in their last year and Addison is 33.

He definitely played better late last year. I thought there was no chance that he was coming back this year. At this point I believe that he will be back. With that being said if the Bills were to chase Clowney or Ngakoue Murphy’s release will definitely be a part of that. The $8M of space from him would be needed.

That’s still not accounting for Jefferson or Matakevich. There may be more still.

I almost took him the pick before but Adams has a ton of talent. He just has some injury questions. When Reed was still there it was an easy decision. I would be thrilled if the Bills got both of them at that point.

Are we sure that $40M accounts for everyone? I didn’t think Butler, Jefferson, etc.. we’re accounted for

I’d much rather pay Clowney than picks and money for Ngakoue

You guys think Beane is in the office yet?

I guess my point is Tyrod will win somewhere between 6 & 10 games there (if he plays all year). Jameis would win somewhere between 4 & 12. He’s been closer to the 4 win guy but has the ability to be at the other end of the spectrum. He can win you games and he can lose you games. Tyrod doesn’t do either. Jameis is absolutely more likely to win a Super Bowl but he’s not necessarily more likely to lead the team to a better record. That’s about all that I have on it though.

You say that but he’s 24-21-1. He’s not going to win 4 games because he doesn’t make mistakes. Jameis is 28-42 and has talent around him. Jameis could absolutely be a 4 win QB. His floor is WAY lower and his ceiling WAY higher. If I’m Jacksonville I’d take a shot on Jameis too. If he’s good, you found your guy. If he’s bad, you pick early next year and can chase Fields or Lawrence. The goal of each team is different. The Chargers are trying to play good defense and not lose games (which Rivers absolutely did last year). They are trying to find their next franchise QB and will do that in the top 10. Jacksonville is already in tank mode. Jameis is the ultimate boom or bust. He makes sense in that situation.

You aren’t going to win anymore games with Jameis under center than you are Tyrod. Jameis is an incredible talent and if the lightbulb ever went on he could be really good. With that being said, the Chargers are taking a guy either way. He would be there as a placeholder. He’s no better in that role than Tyrod. If I were the Patriots I’d absolutely take a swing at Jameis. He’s worth the gamble. He just doesn’t make any sense in a placeholder situation.

Clowney hasn’t found the market that he thought he’d find. Now isn’t a bad time to try to slide in the back door and get him in. That would be the biggest “all in” move at this point.

1) Kansas City 2) Baltimore 3) Buffalo 4) Pittsburgh 5) Cleveland 6) Tennessee 7) Indianapolis 8 ) Houston 9) New England 10) New York 11) LA Chargers 12) Miami 13) Las Vegas 14) Denver 15) Cincinnati 16) Jacksonville

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Did they really need the pro day to know that Higgins lacks separating skills? I thought it was pretty obvious. ??‍♂️ So glad that they pivoted to Diggs instead.

I’d take Dobbins because he’s more explosive but I like CEH too. I’d be happy either way. FIFY

I don’t think there’s any doubt that they are selecting a QB. They are using Tyrod as the bridge. That only makes sense. He’s just like the other “bridge options” except already knows the system and is cheaper. Jameis threw 30 INTs. That hurts. That’s why they let him walk despite 5,200 yards. They just brought in Foles to compete with Trubisky. As I said, all interchangeable. There’s no reason to continue on the topic. We disagree and it will all play on over time.

Not fooled, Ryan. He is. They are all interchangeable placeholders just with different strengths and weaknesses.

Also, I don’t know if anyone is realizing how truly bad Rivers was at times last year. There are a lot of people that believe Tyrod would have led that team to a better record. He would have made less plays and less mistakes. That teams had some talent and Rivers was careless in 2019. They are no worse off short-term. The cap savings and addition of a rookie makes them even better.

This is probably my list too. I’ll add Bradlee Anae as well.