Kirby Jackson

Bennett was a MUCH better player than a few guys from that era that made it up there. With that being said, maybe the off the field issues have prevented him from going up? There are a bunch of others that belong: Moulds, Ruben Brown, Kyle Williams for sure. You could make arguments for a lot of others. I always use the “Jim Richter scale” to determine the worthiness. He was a decent player but not WOF-worthy. This current era has more guys that will go: Allen, McDermott, Diggs, Hyde?, Poyer?, Milano?, Tre?

17 teams won 8 games or less last year. That’s more than 1/2 of the league. We don’t need to do mental gymnastics to diminish that. We used to do the reverse and try to justify why we were a “good 7-9.” You rarely win 8 in a row in the NFL against ANYBODY!! If I had the energy I would look up how many teams had 8 game winning streaks in 2022. It isn’t many.

Perfectly said This post is exactly right on so many levels. These people have been down for so long they don’t know how to be up.

Parking passes at the stadium lots are only sold on a season basis. You used to have to have 4 club seats to be able to purchase one. I’m not sure if that is still the case. Everything else is done on game day. You can probably find one on stub hub or wherever but parking in the stadium lots is a NIGHTMARE IMO. It can take hours to exit after the game. You can pretty much park and tailgate wherever.

It’s weird right? Somehow it was remembered that they were “struggling” despite winning 8 straight games. For some perspective, 17 teams won 8 or fewer games 😂. We are at the point where everyone else has gotten better and the Bills have regressed. These teams didn’t just close the gap. In one case they are surpassing a 6.5 game gap because of a 39 year-old Aaron Rodgers. The same Aaron Rodgers that had a lower passer rating than Andy Dalton in 2022. This has been a weird offseason and the battered Bills fans are back!!! We are weeks away from threads about the team moving to Toronto.

It’s amazing how popular this narrative has become. It’s just not true. The Bills looking average was superior to about every team. They won 8 consecutive games prior to the playoff loss.

So the argument and justification is that the Bills will have to play without their QB but the Dolphins, Ravens and Jets will all play with their QB? It is a weird enough argument to start selecting, before the season, which QBs will be healthy. It’s even weirder when you are selecting Lamar, Tua and a 39 year-old Aaron Rodgers to be healthier than Allen.

He has. When I say, “this era” it really is since Allen/Lamar came in. Tua was next and now Rodgers but it really refers to the last 5 years. After all, we are discussing the present(ish) makeup of these teams. The Miami team that finished 4.5 games behind the Bills in 2022 is not that much different than the 2023 team. The Bills team isn’t that much different from 2022. If we are assuming that the 4.5 game gap has closed, we must be assuming that the situation for Miami will be improving while the Bills situation regresses. The players/coaches have not changed enough to warrant that gap being closed. Logically, I don’t understand that argument that Baltimore, NY and Miami will ALL improve so much that they will pass a 13-3 Bills team with 3 losses by a combined 8 points. This Bills team is largely the same, and improved in any ways.

There is no replacing the legend. It just seems like that there are lots of things happening, or things on Twitter, that should be discussed here. These topics used to fly up on TBD immediately. That Acho troll job would have been up here within seconds. It was hours before I started that thread. It just seemed like something that this group would have opinions on.

I agree that the Bills haven’t reached their potential in the playoffs. Personally, I would have been fine if they moved on from McDermott for that reason. At the same time, the Bills have won more playoff games in this era than any of those teams including playoff wins over 2 of them. If we are using “they have to prove it in the playoffs” that actually works in the Bills favor vs. those 3 teams.

Lol, what make you assume that I didn’t know that?!? This is a message board. It was posted for discussion…

Lol, reading comprehension…

I agree that things could look differently. Cincy belongs in that next tier too. Cincy and the Bills have to be 2 and 3 in whatever order. They get the benefit of the doubt.

I don’t think that a reasonable case can be made, at this point for anywhere below 3. Could it happen, I guess. It’s Occham’s razor. There are a lot of mental gymnastics that he’s using to look upon those teams favorably, while holding a lot of little things against the Bills. The likeliest scenario is that each team has some things better than expected, worse than expected and some injuries. If everyone has “the same luck” the Bills are no worse than 3rd.

They finished 6.5 games ahead of the Jets, 4.5 games ahead of Miami and 3.5 games ahead of Baltimore. It is unreasonable to think that the Bills regressed enough for ALL of those teams to have closed that chasm. It’s not like a game separated them!!

This feels like a SNL skit. It is a parody. So the young, rich, single, famous, superstar QB should NOT enjoy his time off? 😂 Sometimes people say things on here and it makes anything else that they say hard to take seriously. It’s just so ridiculous that your opinion on every other Bills topic is discounted because of this take. The people that took Peterman to the grave did that for me. This is similar imo.

Teams didn’t have the choice until last season. 5 of the 6 teams declined. They would be the norm, not an outlier. I just think that they don’t want week 6.

Only one team took it last year. I suspect that the Bills do not take their bye the week after.

I booked my trip last week when the rumors started. I’m glad that it was right. 😬

Agreed!! They have a nice WR room with Ridley back. With Diggs as a top 5ish number 1 and Gabe as a top halfish number 2, I have them higher than 20. They’re somewhere closer to 12-15 in my opinion. I haven’t done my own rankings but they feel closer to the middle of the league than the bottom 3rd. Again, it isn’t a huge gripe.

The Bills are too low. They aren’t top 10 though. It isn’t that insulting.

My top 32 (ranked based on likely starter for 2023 only): - Mahomes - Allen - Burrow - Herbert - Hurts - Lawrence - Lamar - Watson - Rodgers - Dak - Cousins - Tua - Fields - Goff - Geno - Kyler - Stafford - Russell Wilson - Carr - Purdy - Bryce Young - Stroud - Daniel Jones - Jimmy G - Pickett - Richardson - Tannehill - Baker - Love - McCorkle - Howell - Ridder

We are saying the same thing. As I understand it, it is back near the football field that the kids use. I’m not sure exactly where but in that general area.