I don't know if it was true or not, but it was rumored a few years ago that the Bengals partially relied on the Ourlads scouting guide during draft prep or on draft day.
From a Raiders perspective...Plunkett & Gannon say hi! Also wanting to respond to your post...Manning, Rivers, Brady, Brees, Favre, Warner, Elway, etc....
He wouldn't be the first aging veteran QB to have his career resurrected with the Raiders.
There is no way a team that is going to finish in the middle of the pack(Oakland), would be able to trade two #1 picks to move up to the top slot. Keep dreaming.
Thanks for bringing some insights to the discussion. I think the OP is already trashing Luck knowing that he may end up with the Dolphins, in a manner that is similar to the way some folks here still don't believe Brady is a GREAT QB(mainly because he has owned the Bills for close to a decade).
If Palmer plays well enough to put the Raiders into the playoffs before the Bills(I don't think this is out of the question), will that still make this the worst trade in history(as some posts have indicated)?
St. Louis had a top 10 defense that year. This thread is a trainwreck. Fail.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?seasonType=REG&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&tabSeq=2&season=1999&role=OPP&Submit=Go&archive=true&conference=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=TOTAL_YARDS&qualified=true
I disagree about Dareus being a "monster". I saw him get pancaked 1 on 1 during a 4th qtr pass play, and on many plays see him get no penetration on pass plays. I've mentioned this before...if Dareus is playing at 330-340, he needs to lose 20 pounds. I just don't see much explosiveness...at least not on a consistent basis.
I know I am going to get bashed for this, but I expected more from the #3 overall pick.
Okay...let the "DL take 3 to 4 years to develop" posts begin.
The final possession was a disaster for the Bills. It started with a false start to Pears, and ended with a tipped ball at the line of scrimmage. 4 plays, 10 yards....GAME OVER.
Keep in mind the Bills got the ball back with 1:32 to go, and still had 1 timeout...plenty of time to get in FG range. Instead, they couldn't even get a single first down.
To me this is more embarrassing than the bad call/bad throw on the previous possession.
I don't know if Fitz is a franchise QB, but he has had some very good moments this year. That being said, how can he throw two horrible int's(one of which cost the Bills a chance to take the lead in the 4th qtr), yet you give him a 8 out of 10. :blink:
I'm actually more pissed about not being able to get the red zone channel which it sounds like would become part of a sports tier package(which I already have), than I am about not having the NFL Network.
I'd like to say this is embarrassing for both parties, but I don't believe they can be embarrassed...no matter what the issue is.
The saga continues. It is hard to believe there is not enough money to be made on both sides for an agreement to be reached. EIGHT FREAKIN' YEARS and still no deal...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/14/eight-years-later-nfl-network-still-isnt-national/
Don't forget the possibility of the game being cancelled due to severe weather(after all we just passed the anniversary of the October Storm). In that case, the Bills will be 4-1 heading into the bye.
PTR...Read the article. He works two jobs and makes no money off this. He does it for the love of the game.
Nothing like having an axe to grind against the News and its writers.