The Dean

I'm thinking I prefer something like this. Or maybe this.

For sure. The people here, and many others who it wasn't necessarily targeted too. It wouldn't have lasted as long as it did, nor been as successful in syndication, nor as generally lauded as it has been if it didn't appeal beyond it basic initial target. But I still think Buffy is wildly over ranked at #1.

I'm here to tell you you don't need a ton of money to fulfill that dream (if it is indeed a dream). But cocaine certainly helps.

The guy gave his all and was a ST asset. He played well above his talent level, IMO. Good luck, John.

If I was filthy rich, the first thing I would do is take a shower. Or maybe a good soak in a hot bath with some scented oil.

The only thing pathetic and classless here is your post.

A penguin walks into a bar and asks the bartender, "Have you seen my brother?" The bartender responds, "What does he look like?"

Despite what he may be claiming now the show was directly and purposefully aimed at teenage girls, at least during the early episodes. There is little doubt about that. Given the network it was on it HAD to be.

Corner might end up being the #2 CB, but if that happens I doubt it will be a good thing. Nothing against Corner, but there are guys in front of him with more talent who should stay there unless they are injured.

Well played all around.

I'm shocked there was any belt left.

Well done.

BEG ME!

Unfortunately I wasn't hanging out on the beach, today. I bought two 16oz Heineken cans for $3 a the local quick mart. That was perfect to drink in the car with the carne asada tacos. The place makes a pretty hot habanero salsa and have two of my favorite hot sauces on the counter: Ring of Fire and Melinda's Naga Jololia. Both flavorful and nice and hot, neither stupid hot. I'm getting hooked on this place.

[Edit: I should have known because you said you agreed 100%. If you really agreed with everything you would have said you agreed 110%!]

I think Fez and some others have defended that ranking.

Thanks for that info. You just saved me a couple of bucks. There is a new taco stand right near the beach here, and they have Victory Golden Monkey (I think it's about $4.50 a bottle). I've been getting Negra Modelo every time I go and I think they get $4 or more for that, too. A bit pricey for a taco shack with cheap (but very good) tacos. Today my plan was to either bring my own beers, and eat the tacos in my car OR try the Golden Monkey. But if it's fairly sweet I think I will pass. Plus I am pretty broke right now.

RIP Mrs Cower.

So you think Spike and Xander were the two best characters on the series, and that Buffy is properly placed at #3 on that list? So who should top that list, Spike or Xander? Just sayin.....

No doubt that was by design. The WB and UPN (where I worked) had very small audiences, and those that watched weren't exactly habitual in the early days. The thinking among most network execs is the episodes had to be self-contained, for the most part, of viewers who might get a chance to check the show out would be lost. They realized their viewers weren't necessarily coming back week-after-week, and probably watched when their usual show was preempted or in a rerun. Also, at that time, many WB affiliates were also FOX affiliates, so they broadcast the WB shows at off hours (like weekend afternoons and such) and they weren't exactly regular and predictable (often being preempted by sports and such). Buffy attracted a relatively large audience and earned the luxury to do longer arcs. It also was at the time when The WB finally made real progress at getting better affiliates and better broadcast times for their shows in many markets. We had a great show (Nowhere Man) at UPN that never really caught on, as the producers didn't really stick to single-show arcs. Also the Net Execs and the Exec Producer (a real ass) got into pissing contests and proceeded to harm the quality of the show. Check out the pilot and early episodes if you ever get a chance. http://www.amazon.com/Nowhere-Man-Complete...d/dp/B000BC8SXS

While not a huge fan, for some reason I often drank Presidente when at a bar in Penn Station (NYC). I think it was often a special there (otherwise I can't figure out why I drank that beer in that bar). Since I don't drink many beers in one sitting, I tend to go for stronger bitter beers. But if I had to pick my all-time favorite "session beer" it would have to be the legendary (and defunct) OV Split! Why is it that OV tastes so bad in the bigger bottle (and wretched in the can) yet so good in that 6.5 oz clear bottle? Now I understand the purpose of the session beer is to allow the drinker to have many and still remain somewhat sober. Well that discounts the OV split, I guess, because I almost always got completely trashed when drinking them.

Well played, sir.

Which really brings us back to the original objection. Again, based on my limited experience, Buffy wasn't even the best character on the show. I understand some here are real big Buffy fans, and I can respect that even if I'm not a fan. My big issue was with Buffy as #3 on that list.

Agreed. Change is usually met with resistance. But as a guy who used to test websites (among other things) this site has likely never gone through a basic usability study. Trust me.