Rocky Landing

From practice squad to starting corner. Wow.

And threads like this aren't old?

There's a lot of optimism on this thread, and that's great. But, the question I would first ask is: How many times will Allen get sacked? To my mind, the other stats are secondary. So far, Allen has not been afforded adequate protection. Were he to get that, I think we would see him start to develop a lot faster than we are likely to see otherwise. JMO.

Watch what Hughs did in the second half vs. the Chargers. He's not an elite pass rusher, but he is legit. Shaq does not get anywhere near the pressure Hughs gets. Not even close. He is a weak point in the defense, just like whomever plays opposite Tre White will likely be a weak point that will be exploited by the Vikes. That makes Shaq Lawson part of the problem.

No accounting for taste.

What did you think this thread was?

Of all his rookie mistakes, that may have been the rookiest. There are plenty of defenders in the MWC that Allen could have dragged in for a touchdown.

Here’s my take on this whole Davis thing. Prima Dona, pro-bowl CB who played opposite Andrew Luck, finds himself, at age 30, stuck with the lowly Bills, gets depressed, and quits at halftime. Screw his teammates, and all of Western New York. His ego just won’t take it. (And also, yes, the Bills are that bad.) Later on, I have to imagine that his agent calls him up screaming… (Screaming!)… and he accepts some version of an explanation that mentions God (one too many times, imo), and blames his overly competitive spirit, and maybe… just possibly… leaves the door open for some sort of career in the future. Vontae walked away from a boatload of money on Sunday. Let’s not miss the fact that his agent, that we might assume also has a family, lost quite a bit yesterday, as well. Good luck in your future endeavors, Vontae, you miserable, quitting sack of dogs**t.

I think you're way off base here. There are honorable ways, and crappy ways to quit, just like the are honorable ways, and crappy ways to release a player. When the FO lets someone go in a way that disrespects the contributions the player has made to the organization, they are criticized for it. There are so many examples, it's not even worth elaborating. If this move by Davis isn't worthy of criticism, then I don't know what is.

I hope he's invested wisely. It's a tough job market out there.

Not me! I'll take the BUCKS!!!

Mikah Hyde

Speak for yourself.

Perhaps I have read the numbers wrong, but his guaranteed base salary in 2017 was $465,000, plus a $239,508 signing bonus, and his 2018 cash payout is $555,000, plus base salary. There's more to it, and I'd be lying if I said I understood it. But, his total contract worth is reported at over $2.6 million. Whatever. It really doesn't matter. Let's say he only made $500,000 over the last two years. He's 24 years old. Maybe I'd feel sorry for him if he had been good at what he does, like so many other NFL prospects who don't make it in the league. Or, if he had been good, but just hit a batch of bad luck. But, that is not the case. He stinks. On ice.

Cowherd pretty much gets all of this right-- even the pronunciation of "Tyrod." The "Best for Last" segment was a little mean spirited, but so what? Peterman's career is, indeed, over. I'm pretty damn good at my job-- I've been doing it for over thirty years-- and I'm just solidly middle class. Peterman's made millions (right out of college!) doing something he truly sucks at. Call me cold-hearted, but if all Late Nate has to deal with is a little bit of ridicule, he can go ahead and cry himself all the way to the bank. He gets no sympathy from me.

You can always train blue cheese.

If we just keep losing, it would be a lateral move.

Regardless of who starts, I will take the Chargers to beat that spread.

Vontae's listed as starter on the official depth chart. https://www.buffalobills.com/team/depth-chart

He can totally play, and has heart. But, apparently, he's also a penalty machine. That was also a bit disturbing when he rolled both his ankles. I don't believe it was on a hit, either. He did it to himself. TODD!!!

Chris Ivory is not Reggie Bush, and he also doesn't need the reps that Murphy needs, imo. I think all three RBs are going to see the field this season, and which one is considered #2 may even change week to week. They both offer a lot. I've become an Ivory fan, frankly. Can't wait to see what he does.

I'll give him cheers also for keeping his retorts civil, and friendly. There were some pretty interesting debates on this thread, and I will say that I learned a few things. These threads, where actual football is discussed, are the reason I frequent this site.

I hope, and suspect not. If Nate's highest motivation is to shut people like me up (I admit that I have been fairly relentless regarding that miserable game), then I wouldn't have much hope for his focus on the field. Fortunately, however, from his interviews, and reports of his ethic in practice, it would seem that his focus is inward on himself, and improving to be the quarterback he needs to be. I have to believe that his performance on that day in Los Angeles weighs heavily on his mind. If he's using that experience in any way as motivation, let's hope that it is to create one of the most epic career turnarounds in NFL history, and not merely to shut up his detractors. Thankfully, all indications are to the former.

Serious question: Is the life of an NFL defensive line coach really that taxing? What are the hours we're talking? Seems like a pretty good gig to me. I work on average 60+ hours a week. More if you include drive time. Wish I could watch my kids a little more!

It would be an interesting transition. Has that ever happened before, where a player went from being a player to coach for the same team from one season the the very next?