Bleeding Bills Blue

They did lose a lot of players. They added some too, and javon hargrave got a big deal. But Jimmy G, McGlinchey, Ebukam, Omenihu, Ward, Moseley and al-shaair all got 5M AAV or more after leaving SF.

It might help to not play on one of the worst surfaces in the league. And our london game was played on just straight garbage.

New coordinator, new secondary coach. His slates not going to get a whole lot blanker. Probably his best shot to make an impact is this year.

Eh there's a fair number of good ones. Plus the older players can hang around at the position a bit longer. In the younger group you have bates, hamilton, winfield, holland, hufunga. In the older group its guys like simmons, mathieu, minkah, budda, derwin, etc.

Well the challenge with WR, is much like QB - the best ones never touch free agency. Tons of good players come from the draft - but there are often misses there too. And once they hit 4 years they want that payday.

I mean... I think he's probably better than either of them. So the mantra can just be - we need to get better.

They tagged him twice... they basically drove the price up on themselves. His pay will be worse than it was. He's now in age 30 season, so we'll see what kinda market there is. People are expecting him to drive the price down, and i wonder if its the opposite and this market drives his price down. Still a great player, i'd poke around to see what money he'd expect. I'd consider him an upgrade over hyde and poyer.

I mean... I'm sure an eye test says something but sub 60% catch percentages every year but this past season. It's part of being a deep threat and contested catch player. Same thing with poor YAC every season. He's targeted further down the field. I also think you are discounting davis a bit. 27 TDs in 4 seasons is nothing to sneeze at. Especially when you consider he was splitting time in some of those years behind Brown and Sanders. Its not 17. Its just the base salary and maybe roster bonuses. Still - 13 and change is a lot. 2025 is not guaranteed at all for what you are acquiring as well, so you could potentially just cut him next year for no cap hit. We would need to convert salary to bonus though to fit him in. Signing and restructure are already paid out dollars spread out by denver. They would eat that in cap space. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-broncos/courtland-sutton-25139/

Weird when you look at 1 - catch percentages - Sutton trended up in 2023 but never cracked 60 before that 2 - TDs - Davis has more TDs in 4 years than Sutton has in 6. 3 - Drops - pretty comparable 4 - YAC - Gabes is better Sutton's also 29 years old and has 2 yr's and 26.5 on his deal.

Extension with dummy year.

Absurdly large dead cap charge is going to make it difficult to field a competitive roster this year and next. Jeudy is a free agent next year, sutton (who is just another gabe davis) after next year. I watch him and just see Gabe davis. 2yr 26.5M, i wouldn't give up anything close to a 3rd rounder. Probably something closer to a 7th considering the cap gymnastics needed to fit that under.

They got so much draft capital from being bad too. Lost one for tampering and spent the rest on these fellas.

Hill Ramsey and Chubb were all trades.

I'm indifferent - Do i get a better player for the 5M in savings? It's tough to evaluate. He's still good, he wants to win, younger isn't always better. Just depends on the fit and if there is better fits for a different type of defense under babich.

Poyer has a bum elbow now, but he does show up and play. Guy drove 12 hours to a game because he couldn't fly, and played. I think he's better in coverage too. Adams probably sheds better as a box safety, and was always a solid tackler.

Yeah.. he became primary backup center. But he was originally in the mix as a swing tackle and guard - but by the end of the year he was behind edwards and van de mark. Based on the title of the thread - moving bates means its more likely they keep morse and dawkins. I also think this is the draft for acquiring some depth at tackle and G/C with some of the extra draft capital.

That terrible turf in london. I thought we lost taron johnson in that game to a knee injury too.

Everyone in the media acts like Diggs is trying to get out of buffalo, and all i read in his comments is exactly this. I'm here... until I'm not. Why should players be loyal to the franchise that will drop them at a moments notice?

Medicals on your own players are also not really even that cut and dry.

I think its likely the offense will be improved upon. You replace gabe/harty/sherfield offensive snaps with hopefully a vet and a rookie. You have Brady creating his own offensive identity. Cook another year in the NFL. Shakir prepared for a bigger role. Two TE's. Etc. The defense... We are losing a number of players. But we do get milano back - which is absolutely huge. Bernard can improve on a promising first year starting. Secondary wise they have options at CB - and other potential reinforcements in the form of Tre. Will be interested to see how the team ends up looking after FA and draft, but its easy to forget that by the end of the season they were so banged up that a lot of the players that could potentially be downgrades, weren't even playing.

i mean hines knows writing is on the wall... he might not get any guarantees on the open market while buffalo might accomodate for a very low base salary. Considering he's a depth RB and a returner it hits 2 spots.

Considering Barkley, Pollard, and Jacobs are all UFA's now i don't see how thats in the cards for him. Or literally any of the backs, theres too many available plus the entire draft.

Void years are just signing bonus money. You add multiple years to be able to pull more off the cap in the first year, and there are rules around how much you can restructure. So when they sign anywhere... that cash is already theirs. The cap hit of void/bonus stays on the books regardless of where the player signs. Usually these will all trigger in one offseason (3 void years at 1m each would hit the cap the first year the player is gone for 3M), but i think if they sign here then the void years can continue to be spread out but don't quote me on that.

I'll throw Odell beckham in there. I'd want any incoming rookie to have to earn snaps over the course of the year, and i expect speed to be a priority with our incoming rookie WR. Odell isn't the fastest, but he's crafty, a good route runner, and he has good hands. A lot of gabe davis snaps to replace, not to mention Harty/Sherfield. I think there are better options, but for a budget option i think he can do well here in a rotational role.

I assume Hines reworks his deal. He has very little in the way of guarantees, and hes coming off a lost season, and is 28. He hits the open market he's looking at like 1-1.5M and maybe a couple hundred K in guarantees. He's also likely without a home for a while sitting on his hands hoping the phone rings. 2yr deal, guarantee some of it, get the cap hit low and that gives you a return man and a speed back/gadget option. You can cut both but then you're back to trying to find a punt returner, which is obnoxious when you already had 2. You could potentially use shakir there, but thats not really a primary option in my head as his role should be on offense.