Uncle Monkeyhead

Give OJ some more time. He's still looking for the real murderer

No Pro Bowl and no AP All Pro selections. I think this guy is money and kicks in the toughest conditions. He drills them from the 45+ range consistently. I really don't care about national recognition, but why isn't he ever spoken about as a clutch kicker? All I know is that I'll take this guy above all others when the game is on the line.

Kudos OP. And a hearty Nelson Muntz "ha ha" to those who blasted him

Our D looks very Steeleresque. In a very good way

Nelson and the other GB Wr's saw film of the Jets and Dever games. They no doubt saw the big time hits and it really got in their heads. I truly believe this as to why there were so many drops and botched routes. That's what they mean by out of sync. A passing team like that just doesn't mysteriously get out of sync. It's for a reason

Who doesn't like Boobies??

No one said start him. Throw him in for a couple plays a game. Different look, give a DC something else to game plan for, even if you don't use it much or if at all. Two times we were blowing out the jets, it wouldn't hurt a thing.....but it throws more at the opponent to counter act and work on with his players during practice. That's all. Didn't feel like we were "winning and in playoff run" when we lost to KC and Miami. Both these teams and Denver had it easy defending a one dimensional Kyle Orton

Well kudos to the OP for getting others to reply. I brought this up a couple weeks ago in two other threads about the suckitude of our O....I had zero replies My point was with a supposedly "do whatever it takes to win" and "innovative OC" that they have had weeks to work on a few plays to keep the other D on their toes. It doesn't take a DC much to game plan for Kyle Orton, which leaves them more time to gameplan against Freddy, Sammy, etc. what's wrong with giving a DC one more thing to prepare for? EJ was touted as a mobile QB, and he's 6-4, 240. I mean, hell, we sure could have used a wrinkle when Miami, KC, and Denver were sending the house on pass plays knowing Kyke was a sitting duck.

Billified

No one said it proves anything. Just a reality check that he's a rook who will make great plays but also makes bad plays. That play should have resulted in a TD for the D. Bad snap yes, but still a rook decision on his part

No one is surprised there's hype, it's the amount of hype and how it's generated by the league and media, not by the fans. I think there was a poll after the Bills game and I'm pretty sure the fan voting was in favor of Hoyer (at the time I looked at it it was). But the media relentlessly pushed on. And the top plays segments would feature his TD run and not even acknowledge Hughes undeniably better play in that game. That's league and media infused hype, not fan hype. That's what many don't like about it. Even if he becomes a HOF QB, the hype is way over the top this early.

Is he making the "money" gesture with his hand as he's falling down? Pretty ballsy

I had a possible solution to our offensive woes a couple weeks ago. All this time EJ's been on the bench, our innovative OC should have been creating/devising plays that would have EJ in on certain downs. Hear me out....kind a like a pseudo-wildcat. Before you laugh and say no way, tell me, what is wrong with giving an opposing DC something else to prepare for? Because all they need to do is 10 minutes of film time on Orton and the rest of the time they were free to work on our Sammy, or other aspects of our offensive schemes. And all they had to do was bring the house after Orton; he was no threat. You can't tell me that that would be any worse than what we've had offensively. EJ was drafted as a dual threat; his mobility was touted and he'll he's 240 pounds, 6 foot 5. If you were truly fighting for your job as a head coach you would think you would try something.....anything....what's wrong with my suggestion?

This^

Here's a little something to play with for the remaining weeks http://www.nfl.com/playoffs/playoff-picture/predictor

Lost in all the hype

Thanks for the new screen wallpaper!!!

He made it on NFLN Plays of the Week but Hughes trifecta while being held didn't. And in the debate about who should start next week, they totally ignore his questionable decision to try to throw after the bad snap and Kyle in his face which should have resulted in another defensive TD. I think if that was Hoyer, he would have had enough experience to just take the sack that close to the end zone.

This weeks TMQ mentions Hughes' great play and Gray's huge 3rd down conversion. And no mention of Manziel http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyPage=TMQWeekThirteen141202

When Vick went to the sideline limping, the camera pans to Gino.....thought cloud above his head: "Oh sh!+"

Intentional grounding. The first word of the rule is the one they are saying "doesn't matter". Ridiculous

I didn't say I bilieved it, but said it is possible. Anything can happen in the NFL. But to say this team has no pride or passion? They certainly do, if you watch this D and there are some on offense that play above their expected abilities. Another thing, this is not the same team that started the playoff drought. There's not one player on the roster from the team that started losing. It's like saying they never won in Chicago before this last time. It's not the same team.

Hey who knows. Maybe this rough spot is just what this coaching staff and our offense needs....a major MAJOR kick in the ass..... If this team truly is a playoff team, then from the next game going forward, they should win all of them, right? I mean seriously....if this team plays like every game is their last....maybe...just maybe they answer the bell and win out. Green Bay....Denver.....New England........they can all lose and why not have it be at the hands of a desperate, wounded animal like the Bills? Let's see what this team is really made of. That's......why they play the games.

Hey who knows. Maybe this rough spot is just what this coaching staff and our offense needs....a major MAJOR kick in the ass..... If this team truly is a playoff team, then from the next game going forward, they should win all of them, right? I mean seriously....if this team plays like every game is their last....maybe...just maybe they answer the bell and win out. Green Bay....Denver.....New England........they can all lose and why not have it be at the hands of a desperate, wounded animal like the Bills? Let's see what this team is really made of. That's......why they play the games.

It's an annual apology I give my son for the last 14 years. Sorry I ever got him involved in all this mess