Jauronimo

Shut up and dribble! I don't think anyone should be commenting on things outside of their sphere. Athletes and sportswriters should stick to sports. Drs should stick to medicine. Scientists should stick to whatever it is they do or "science". The only people who should voice opinions on politics and participate in our democracy are politicians.

"Respecting the flag" continues to be an empty talking point which was invented and used to avoid uncomfortable discussion for the actual reasons of Kaepernick's protest.

I don't think you could have been more off base if you tried. Comparing OJ's HoF bust to statues commemorating confederate generals or slave traders is asinine, for starters. OJ isn't a symbol of oppression and institutional racism. Hes a football player who allegedly murdered 2 people in a jealous rage. The OJ Simpson trial was racially charged from the start following the Rodney King beating, the acquittal of 2 of the 3 officers involved, and the subsequent riots in LA. The not guilty verdict for OJ was viewed as a win by many Americans after what they viewed as a miscarriage of justice in the King trial. To this day, opinions on OJ's innocence differ significantly between black and white Americans, albeit not nearly as much as in 1995. https://fivethirtyeight.com/videos/most-black-people-now-think-oj-simpson-was-guilty/ Using the George Floyd protests as an opportunity to remove OJ from the wall of fame and hall of fame in the name of justice is just dumb.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/07/missouri-cop-hits-man-unmarked-car-detain-police-brutality-doorbell-cam/ Here's another video the media is just starting to circulate. This incident took place about 5 miles from Fergusion, MO. The suspect only suffered an ankle injury surprisingly enough. More liberal protests are likely.

Are you suggesting Fromm should run for president?

People assume all personnel moves are driven by culture now. The simple math of having a strong roster is there will be annual churn.

Drew Brees has cultivated the image of an awesome stand up guy through first class public relations work. Celebrities are no different than you or I. Just because we watch them every Sunday does not mean we know them at all. It had nothing to do about culture fit. Buffalo did not want to pay them what they were getting in the FA market. I don't think either player will be missed much with Addison in the lineup and Oliver/Phillips taking more snaps.

They lasted nine months. Thousands of injuries, thousands of arrests, allegations that the police were kidnapping and murdering protesters. You had mobs of pro-government anti-protesters who were allegedly Triads, cops in plain clothes, and paid thugs assaulting the protesters. It was basically a pitched battle in the streets between civilians and cops at points which is why there was international outrage and condemnation from the way China handled the protest. I would encourage you to revisit https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests-timeline/timeline-key-dates-in-hong-kongs-anti-government-protests-idUSKBN1XL0N3 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/28/world/asia/hong-kong-protest-photos.html

Hong Kong was anything but peaceful.

Illegitimate or invalid is a bit of an exaggeration on my part, but if you look at the attitudes expressed and the fact that this discussion (before there even was a single protester in the streets) was lumped into a thread titled "Liberal Protests" I think you'll find the issue underlying the protest has tepid support. I don't know if you've taken the temperature in here lately but I don't think Liberal is used positively very often. Tells you a little bit about the bias here. Page 356 has a few sterling examples where the reason for the protest is completely dismissed. Page 291 has the insinuation that is was a false flag and the rioting was all premeditated. Right at the start page 206, Never fail to take advantage of a tragedy. Page 216, pre-planned protests and rioting. Page 213 "Funny how there are no riots when one black person kills another black person on the street. Am I to assume that murdering black people is OK as long as another black person without a uniform does it? These guys should have bee protesting like this when all the jobs were getting shipped over seas." It doesn't take much reading between the lines to surmise what these people think about the issues. We have seen plenty of legitimate and informed discussion around the facts of whether black men are disproportionately killed by the police. Some in this thread do not think the protesters have much of a gripe based on facts and stats. Then you have the crazies in this forum who operate with impunity and post about false flags. PPP needs to eat their own like the old days. Bring back DC Tom and even that insufferable blowhard OCBills. In any event, the difference between the Hong Kong thread and this thread are striking (which was my whole point) and the law and order folks can't claim this is all about rioting, violence against cops, or property destruction. I believe the participants on this board have more sympathy for the citizens of Hong Kong than they do for their fellow Americans marching in streets and I think that has to do with the governments being protested and general views that BLM, police brutality, inequality, and injustice are a media creation.

He did. Doesn't that imply that he believes the protest to be of questionable merit? If you don't believe the people have a real gripe, if you believe the stats/facts do not support their argument, it would definitely explain the difference between reactions to protests at home and protests abroad.

I am not but thanks. I'll say it again: rioting bad, looting bad. I hereby condemn rioting and looting to the maximum in accordance with the highest standards of the board as established by Magox.

Of course they have the right to protest. You can protest anything. Doesn't mean the fine people here believe the protesters have a legit case and many do not. How many times have I read in this forum "Chauvin was arrested. What are they even protesting?". Yes, there was considerable doubt that these officers would face any repercussions. Yes, rioting is bad. Looting is bad. I don't think I have seen anyone argue otherwise and if people have, they are wrong. You literally just said they feel injustice but they're perceptions are inaccurate, did you not? How is that different than "they have a right to protest but have no case"? Shouldn't you be scouring the internet for more beat down porn? Google purple hair liberal gets pwned and tell us what comes up.

The Manning Estate was built on the nutsack stained foreheads of countless women.

Changes in legislation, like amending extradition articles, justify protesting and rioting but inequality in the application of existing legislation does not qualify? The question isn't what freedoms are being taken away from Americans. The question is are the rights that Americans already have being protected and enforced equally for all Americans? And that likely explains the night and day difference in attitudes between the two threads. Much of PPP doesn't think their fellow citizens protesting perceived injustice have a legit case. Its not about the violence in the protest, or the looting, or law and order its about the validity of the underlying issue. I agree that Beijing cares nothing for the rights of their citizens. A significant portion of the American public believes their lives are less valuable in the eyes of their government.

So the difference in your eyes is one protest is invalid and the other was justified?

If my texts were revealed I'd be facing deportation or prison time.

Gotta love the market. Daily new cases of COVID are flat - market pumps. Rioting has slowed down - market pumps. Unemployment not as bad as the massive predictions - market pumps.

This is an incident where the outcome is way worse than the actions. If he maintains his balance that light shove would like restraint. There have been many egregious acts of police brutality the past few days which received zero airtime but this was not one of them.

Then you'll have no problem explaining the major differences between the protests and why any comparisons to the attitudes expressed in the two threads are invalid.

When your heart is pure and you put all that warmth and positivity into the universe I guess love finds you even in the strangest of places.

I am not married.

Exactly. Squirting condiments is the ultimate sign of disrespect. Thats why we do it to Pinto Ron. I bet he'd kneel for the anthem.

https://theundefeated.com/features/colin-kaepernick-protests-anthem-over-treatment-of-minorities/ Is it inherently disrespectful to not feel represented in and proud of our nation at all times?