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Hong Kong was anything but peaceful.

Illegitimate or invalid is a bit of an exaggeration on my part, but if you look at the attitudes expressed and the fact that this discussion (before there even was a single protester in the streets) was lumped into a thread titled "Liberal Protests" I think you'll find the issue underlying the protest has tepid support. I don't know if you've taken the temperature in here lately but I don't think Liberal is used positively very often. Tells you a little bit about the bias here. Page 356 has a few sterling examples where the reason for the protest is completely dismissed. Page 291 has the insinuation that is was a false flag and the rioting was all premeditated. Right at the start page 206, Never fail to take advantage of a tragedy. Page 216, pre-planned protests and rioting. Page 213 "Funny how there are no riots when one black person kills another black person on the street. Am I to assume that murdering black people is OK as long as another black person without a uniform does it? These guys should have bee protesting like this when all the jobs were getting shipped over seas." It doesn't take much reading between the lines to surmise what these people think about the issues. We have seen plenty of legitimate and informed discussion around the facts of whether black men are disproportionately killed by the police. Some in this thread do not think the protesters have much of a gripe based on facts and stats. Then you have the crazies in this forum who operate with impunity and post about false flags. PPP needs to eat their own like the old days. Bring back DC Tom and even that insufferable blowhard OCBills. In any event, the difference between the Hong Kong thread and this thread are striking (which was my whole point) and the law and order folks can't claim this is all about rioting, violence against cops, or property destruction. I believe the participants on this board have more sympathy for the citizens of Hong Kong than they do for their fellow Americans marching in streets and I think that has to do with the governments being protested and general views that BLM, police brutality, inequality, and injustice are a media creation.

He did. Doesn't that imply that he believes the protest to be of questionable merit? If you don't believe the people have a real gripe, if you believe the stats/facts do not support their argument, it would definitely explain the difference between reactions to protests at home and protests abroad.

I am not but thanks. I'll say it again: rioting bad, looting bad. I hereby condemn rioting and looting to the maximum in accordance with the highest standards of the board as established by Magox.

Of course they have the right to protest. You can protest anything. Doesn't mean the fine people here believe the protesters have a legit case and many do not. How many times have I read in this forum "Chauvin was arrested. What are they even protesting?". Yes, there was considerable doubt that these officers would face any repercussions. Yes, rioting is bad. Looting is bad. I don't think I have seen anyone argue otherwise and if people have, they are wrong. You literally just said they feel injustice but they're perceptions are inaccurate, did you not? How is that different than "they have a right to protest but have no case"? Shouldn't you be scouring the internet for more beat down porn? Google purple hair liberal gets pwned and tell us what comes up.

The Manning Estate was built on the nutsack stained foreheads of countless women.

Changes in legislation, like amending extradition articles, justify protesting and rioting but inequality in the application of existing legislation does not qualify? The question isn't what freedoms are being taken away from Americans. The question is are the rights that Americans already have being protected and enforced equally for all Americans? And that likely explains the night and day difference in attitudes between the two threads. Much of PPP doesn't think their fellow citizens protesting perceived injustice have a legit case. Its not about the violence in the protest, or the looting, or law and order its about the validity of the underlying issue. I agree that Beijing cares nothing for the rights of their citizens. A significant portion of the American public believes their lives are less valuable in the eyes of their government.

So the difference in your eyes is one protest is invalid and the other was justified?

If my texts were revealed I'd be facing deportation or prison time.

Gotta love the market. Daily new cases of COVID are flat - market pumps. Rioting has slowed down - market pumps. Unemployment not as bad as the massive predictions - market pumps.

This is an incident where the outcome is way worse than the actions. If he maintains his balance that light shove would like restraint. There have been many egregious acts of police brutality the past few days which received zero airtime but this was not one of them.

Then you'll have no problem explaining the major differences between the protests and why any comparisons to the attitudes expressed in the two threads are invalid.

When your heart is pure and you put all that warmth and positivity into the universe I guess love finds you even in the strangest of places.

I am not married.

Exactly. Squirting condiments is the ultimate sign of disrespect. Thats why we do it to Pinto Ron. I bet he'd kneel for the anthem.

https://theundefeated.com/features/colin-kaepernick-protests-anthem-over-treatment-of-minorities/ Is it inherently disrespectful to not feel represented in and proud of our nation at all times?

The bolded is a false analogy. No merit. Which is it? Is kneeling inherently disrespectful or WAS kneeling disrespectful because of his intent according to you? Apparently all of his other ACTIONS do not matter either, like standing for God Bless America or his activism directly related to his stated cause. You disregard those ACTIONS and insist his intent was simply to disrespect the flag. He said he did not feel proud of the country given his views of widespread injustice and inequality. I find it troubling that so many see failure to comply with our out of place displays of nationalism at all times as an affront to all things American.

Socks are a garment typically worn on the foot but can be worn on the hands if you're into puppetry (this is not recommended). Sometimes socks have decorations on them or patterns. Some adults think wearing silly socks or socks with pictures on them like pigs, or cops, or cop pigs, are a substitute for actually having a personality. These people are wrong.

Have you considered the option that everyone understands your oversimplifications and still disagrees? Kaepernick spoke at great length what he was protesting. To disregard his words because of an idiom like "actions speak louder than words" while disregarding all of his other actions is about as compelling as citing "breakfast is the most important meal of day" for why Kaep meant to disrespect the flag.

We did the pledge every morning. Its quite strange looking back at it that as a 5 year old I swore allegiance to the flag and my country every morning. But after the pledge we sat down. So it seems that the act of sitting or taking a knee isn't disrespecting a flag else we're all guilty. Kaep always stood for God Bless America.

His intentions are clearly to disrespect the anthem. He's been on record that he believes its a poor composition.

That was low effort and dumb, even for you. Lets not conflate the flag, with the anthem, with the military, and with the country as a whole. The flag used to fly in every classroom. Did you stand all day at school or stand at attention?

I'm pretty sure a shocking number of people who think Kaep should be tried for sedition have flag mankinis, shirts, and flag mud flaps.

No one is silencing Brees. How exactly is kneeling disrespecting a flag? We don't stand for the flag, we stand for the national anthem. People sit, stand, do cartwheels, and lay down near flags all the time.