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Brees dodged a question and then wrapped himself in the flag. Similarly to the Fromm situation, people were quick to change the story and focus on any criticism of Brees' comments as anti-flag and anti-american rather than accept that people were dissatisfied with him for avoiding the real question. There is a power in deflecting and then waving the flag or your religion.

If my texts were revealed to the public I would jobless, homeless, and likely deported.

I am getting concerned that those who DO share Fromm's worldview (or what they think his worldview is based on his brief comments) cannot admit he copped out and even after he said he wasn't going to answer the question. They have equated any questioning of his response to an attack on his religion. If you say anything that can be construed as scripture I guess we all lose our right to criticize lest commit heresy.

LOL. Add it to the TBDisms thread. You'll never guess who slept through Sunday school?

I have no problem with him tossing his faith into his lack of response. I have an issue with everyone who cannot admit that he dodged the question, which is painfully clear, and instead want to argue about the profundity of "i think the world can be a better place if we can love god first and then love people". He may as well have said the world can be a better place if we recycle. Both statements are true, as deep as a bumper sticker, and only tangentially related to the question.

If you're generally curious, you can actually read Marcel's own explanation of his use of the term "unacceptable" instead of furthering your baseless he's anti-Christian and doesn't respect the Bible or Fromm's faith hypothesis. That might help, as inconvenient as you may find it.

Fromm quoted scripture in the loosest sense of the word "quoted" after he declared his intent not to answer the question. That is Jake Fromm's problem. Quoting scripture, poorly I might add, is not inherently a good answer to all questions. Scripture is not a get out of jail free card and it is pure and total crap when you hide behind scripture to avoid answering difficult questions. You can duck a question without bringing your faith into the matter.

You calling out FireChans?? Should we call you BigDoc? #GetchaHeatMapsReady

Its a perfect analogy. The insensitive language was used in an email meant for one person who then ratted me out.

I got called in front of my boss for using some racially insensitive language. When asked what I learned from a few weeks of sensitivity training and how I will change my behavior in the future I dropped the old "I'm not going to get into that, but I will say I'm focused on loving God and deepening my relationship with Christ". I was let go!!!! I am now suing Chick Fil A Corporate for their anti-Christian agenda.

Not if the player says anything remotely Christian no matter how cryptic or how badly butchered. Once that happens, everyone forfeits their right to criticism. UNLESS that player has just turned the ball over 5 times in one half of football. In that case, something like, I don't know, this: "“At the end of day I know where my true identity lies: in Christ. ... Being a child of God, basically. Not finding my identity in football." doesn't even come close to an acceptable response to "what did you learn from your performance today?".

100% agree. Fromm doesn't owe Marcel or the public a dissertation on BLM, police brutality, social justice or anything else.

Marcel didn't disrespect Fromm's faith. Only a person with a persecution complex would suggest otherwise.

Once again, that is your unsupportable interpretation of the words. The only interpretation based on the quoted words is that Marcel is not a christian or doesn't believe the Bible is valid? If Marcel was a Christian he wouldn't view Fromm's admission that he wasn't going to get political as a dodge? Father forgive whatdrought for he know not what he done.

No. Where in quote above did he give his opinion on current events?

No, thats actually what you're saying. Marcel is saying Fromm, given his leaked texts, owes everyone a real answer as to what he believes about the protests and social justice issues and not some generalized statements about loving God. I do not agree that Marcel or the public is entitled to a full answer but lets not pretend Fromm didn't dodge the question when he specifically says the last thing he is going to do is get political. “There’s a lot of things going on and the last thing I want to do is get political in any sort of way, but I think the world would be a better place if we can love God first and then love people.”

Fromm's response was pure crap. Love God first and people second?? You act like hes quoting the sermon on the mound. He used his faith as a shield to avoid a difficult question and some act like any string of words remotely spiritual is sacred text. He basically said "Jesus is just alright with me, jesus is just alright oh yeah".

All this post says to me is that you can dodge a question with some vaguely spiritual crap and that will be above reproach for many people. MLJ: What do you have to say about throwing 6 INTs today in a blowout loss? Fromm: Thou shalt protect thy father and honor no one above him unless it beith me, thy sweet Lord! MLJ: That's a ***** answer. Bills Fans: Marcel is a heretic!

This could not possibly be deduced from the actual text. Where does he disagree with Fromm's worldview? Marcel doesn't like Fromm's answer because Fromm dodged the question entirely. Marcel believes its "unacceptable" but I don't think Fromm owes him or anyone else a better response. He could certainly help himself by giving a real answer, however.

Your choices are 0 or +10.

I've thought a lot about selling but I like TSLA long term and the big question is what price point do you get back in and will we realize the big pullback to something like $700 per share? With this liquidity fueled market and its momentum TSLA could easily hit $2,000 before it sees something under a $1,000 again. But then I hear fantasy football bros like the Bar Stool Sports mouthbreathers and 17 year olds with RobinHood accounts slinging stock tips and I think I should just sell it all and sit on cash. P/Es make no sense in the tech sector. How do you even put a value on their lead in self-driving technology, the vast amount of data collected, their prop to upend the insurance market, and the subscription model for software they are proposing? The street basically assigns no value to their solar or industrial battery segment.

So how many shares of ERESU do you own? Go read my contributions in this thread. Never said Pegula doesn't know what hes doing or wont make money so you can quit with the strawman. You think the energy industry is headed to new highs for reasons you can't articulate, and that's great. Another poster thinks this SPAC will do 2x at least. I have responded to misinformation and baseless speculation. Clearly, I'm not so bullish on fossil fuel market given the reasons I have laid out. I'm also skeptical of the SPAC boom in general. How many actually say they can't find a suitable acquisition and return capital to their investors? None. The pressure to make a deal, any deal is real. The history of SPACs in the energy space is particularly terrible. Pegula may find a some nice deals and investors could very well make some nice returns if he can scoop up some distressed assets. If you think $4 mbtu gas is coming back anytime soon given the supply we have, well I disagree. I was highly skeptical for a while but now I am optimistic on the EV market. I am digging my 150% YTD return on TSLA too. The world's largest car market is all in on EV's. Major manufacturers like VW, GM, Ford are all in. I do think hydrogen is a dead end. https://www.forbes.com/sites/energyinnovation/2018/05/30/chinas-all-in-on-electric-vehicles-heres-how-that-will-accelerate-sales-in-other-nations/#1746a016e5c1

Why aren't YOU angry?!?!?!? You in the supply room hitting nitrous again, Dr. Whippits?

Seriously, these idiots need to stay off twitter and keep working y'all little jobs for the rest of y'all lives.

No one was anticipating peak demand despite a sea of cheap oil and gas 70 years ago or even 20 years ago. Peak theory was all about depleting our reserves of oil which could be produced economically. In the last 5 years the U.S. has doubled its production and surpassed Saudi as the number one producer in the world. Suffice to say, fears of depleting all the worlds easily recoverable oil are no longer. Laugh all you want but China, the EU, and select U.S. states all have aggressive targets for emissions reduction. Every major car manufacturer is introducing an EV or has one in production. Most major manufacturers of Class 8 trucks have announced plans to introduce EVs. Fleet vehicle adoption of EVs is underway with the U.S. post office and Amazon getting ready to deploy. Tesla has already installed the Powerpack in Australia and in the U.S. to eliminate the need for a gas peaker plant and the early results show no drop in performance and significant savings. I'm sure one day you TSLA shorts will have your moment in the sun. The car replaced the horse in a span of about 20 years. Think about the magnitude of that transformation. You don't think a different kind of car can surpass an internal combustion engine in 10 years when every manufacturer agrees EVs or hydrogen fuel cell powered vehicles are the future? Where is this rebound in demand coming from? Commodity prices were already in the shitter before COVID-19. We were already realizing all time highs in gasoline inventories in 2019 which have been mostly steady since. What factors will drive consumption and boost commodity prices? Are you anticipating a huge market shakeout, significantly lower production, and a global market re-balancing (because the world's major producers always cooperate so well. Even OPEC can't get its own ***** together these days). What will drive a recovery in the energy industry to something resembling previous highs as you have predicted? For years the demand story has been the China opportunity but China leads the world in EV adoption. Petrochem is one of few bright spots long-term for the natural gas industry. Hyliion is doing some interesting stuff with natural gas but its not going to move the needle for the industry.