Livinginthepast

"you guys"? what guys are those? the burgeoning Chad Kelly fan club? LOL I really didn't know he existed until about 2 months ago. I'm just throwing it out there as a discussion point. Bring him in or not , I don't really care that much either way. However to say that Kelly is any more of an idiot or dbag than say Vick, Peterson or Jones is just silly. And to say that what he did is any more crazy than Zay jones is also not being fair. Finally saying that Kelly is probably better than Peterman or Anderson is just being honest. Its just a hypothetical discussion anyway because McJesus and Co would never give him a chance. Kelly's sins are probably unpardonable in their eyes and they have proven themselves somewhat clueless at assessing offensive talent!

We are obviously not comparing "apples to apples" for a number of reasons. But at the same time we never really did get an explanation of what happened to Zay and what led him to do what he did? Was he high/drunk as well? Yes Kelly is a dbag but as we have seen countless times in the NFL people get 2nd and sometimes 3rd chances if they have talent. What Vick did was absolutely horrendous, same as Adrian Petersen but they are/were back in the league. Pacman Jones is another example. The NFL tends to give you a pass if you have talent. Does Kelly have enough talent to be a QB in this league? I would say yes. But his constant dbaggery has killed his chances with Denver and lowered his draft spot. I still stand by the idea that he is superior to both Anderson and Peterman!

Before you laugh off the suggestion about bringing Kelly here, consider what happened to Zay Jones in the offseason. Jones had a complete mental breakdown and wandered around nude spouting scripture. Somehow the guy is still here (and is still garbage). Kelly is way better than anyone who will potentially play on Monday and is now considered a pariah by the rest of the league. He's a local boy and with a hard dose of reality (maybe even from his uncle Jim) he might be redeemed.

Where are this guys handlers? i.e. his agent?his girlfriend or his family? Even his older teammates? He is obviously impulsive and apparently enjoys getting blotto on occasion. Getting belligerent and fighting with people I can understand while drunk but it takes a special kind of physiology for someone to drink so much that instead of passing out they stay awake and continue barreling along, all the while they have lost all sense of bearing and inhibitions. I have a friend who got in this stage on a number of occasions when we were in our early 20s. It was for the most part amusing to see what he would do in this condition at a bar or at a house party but we would have to save him from fights, driving and especially wandering into other people's houses!! Chad Kelly needs a few people to protect him from himself!!

The only possibility is if Brady gets injured then the Bills might win. However with the new soft NFL rules on hitting the QB this year, that becomes an even smaller possibility. They may not light things up like in the 2007 Pats but they will crush us because we cannot score points.

What a game if you were a neutral fan. As a Bills fan it was a dagger to the heart. They found a way to lose a game that Dallas had handed to them on a plate!!

If they tinkered and it backfired why weren't adjustments made on the fly in the 2nd Q? I know the offense put the D in a bad position on multiple occasions but the D looked really bad on plays that led to scores. There were a few 3rd down conversions and plays that just killed the Bills and McD and co had no answers. Bad coaching to tinker with what worked and even worse coaching to not adjust out of it!

He looked pretty good yesterday. Shoulder looked fine and most importantly his decision making looks much better. We should have made a move when the Colts were doubting him after the injury. I think he could have been swindled off them!

No way would we have picked up Cooper, he's not from Carolina, he's not crap or washed up and never made the "All world Jesus" team.

in the 16-0 Pats season, Bellichick would leave Brady and a lot of starters in games right until the end. He would also have them score TDs instead of FGS and go for 2. He did this against us in that night game at the Ralph where they destroyed us. It always annoyed me that the Pats tempted fate so much by doing that throughout that season but were never punished by bad luck and having a player injured for nothing or were ever the victims of some embarrassed opposing player trying to get even with a dirty hit. Leaving your starters in like last night for the Broncos is a little different but equally as risky. If any of their players blew out knee or broke a leg the coach would have been gone by this morning.

That's where the Illogic part comes in. I have no problem with Allen being picked or trading up to get him. I do have a problem with no vet mentor QB to teach him being on staff in the summer. AJ McCarron was never going to be that mentor. If you were going to start him and that was your plan ready or not then they should have protected him with at least some competent O line or given him some weapons to relieve the immense pressure on his shoulders. They failed to do that which makes no sense.

Everything Beane and McD have done with the QBs in the past 2 years looks a lot like 2 guys who have an illogical plan, a bad plan or no plan at all.

Then SuperSub Nate comes in! Now if Nate gets hurt tackling one of the defenders on an interception that is when the fun really will begin!! Daboll will come out of the booth and finally show us how his offense is executed properly

Why haven't they traded for another QB just in case? Is there any Qbs on the practice squad? You are severely tempting fate with a 35 year old and this terrible O line. Anderson might get killed on Sunday and well "golly" who is the backup??

Singing Los Angeles SUPERCHARGERS just doesn't work. Chargers not viable in LA?? And just to make it more stupid they have built a 2.6BILLION stadium!!

I will swim naked in the shark tank of Ripleys!! Oh wait its been done!

He was pretty good for the Jets in the preseason if you can really reach a conclusion from the stats. Some Jets fans were not happy with the trade. As for your observation about the Jets trading him to the Bills or not doing so. You would think that might be the case that they wouldn't trade to a division rival but I would like to know if the Bills even inquired (which they should have). How in the hell did the Saints get him? Were the Jets shopping him around? Why wasn't Beane at least on the phone scrambling around trying to get another viable QB option? They had already seen Bridgewater perform better than McCarron in the preseason. Perhaps Beane should have been signing Bridgewater in March to try out right after they traded TT? I just don't understand the logic of going into the season with 2 unproven QBs when there were so many other options available that could be had on the cheap! Total mismanagement!

The Jets traded Bridgewater on Aug 29th to the Saints who really didn't need a QB. But the Saints were smart enough to have a bargain and competent plan B. The Bills on the other hand signed a completely unproven QB in McCarron who disappointed in the preseason and was injured. Then traded McCarron on September 1st when they had an epiphany that McCarron sucked. Bizarrely they went into the season with 2 QBS who were completely unproven and the predictable results happened. They had to know that McCarron was a bust by at least the last week of August and a good GM should have begun a desperate search at point to secure a competent QB as a starter or backup or mentor to Allen. They could have had Bridgewater for a 3rd round pick but they completely bungled any attempt to rescue themselves from this salvageable situation and went steaming full speed into the season with 2 qbs. 6 weeks later the Bills find themselves in a dire situation of their own making.

Yes the lack of talent is huge on this team but that should be clearly obvious to all concerned. The coaches game plan should be adjusted to who is on the field and not vice versa. In the Minni game the offense executed things really well but all the other games it looked like Daboll tried things which were too complicated for Allen and Peterman to orchestrate. Unfortunately like so many NFL coaches Daboll is a little slow to change or simply wont adjust the game plan if things are failing. Its like these coaches are playing an old school electric football game from the 70s. Just point the players in the right direction and hope for the best.

That was an astounding stat. 11.7% completion!!!

Here are the "epic" hilites !!!! http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81357980/NFL-GameDay-Browns-vs-Bills-highlights Wow that punt muff from Parrish was incredibly dumb. I loved going down memory lane and seeing Jauron's corpselike visage and his 1000 yard stare.

I agree, let him sit and dare I say learn (if that is possible) from Anderson. Or perhaps he can learn how NOT to play from watching the inevitable upcoming starts of Nate Peterman. One other benefit of sitting with this horrendous turnstile offensive line is that at least Allen reduces his chances of a devastating injury. Finally I did observe Allen looking kind of angry when he was on the sideline after his injury. Almost like it was killing him that Peterman was in and he was not in charge of the offense. That to me is a good sign. We need that kind of hard lesson to motivate Allen for when he does come back. He has to be better!

Peter King is right the whole Peterman vs TT debacle last year was lunacy. Peterman simply wasn't ready to play esp not vs the Chargers last year. The fact that Peterman "won" the QB competition vs Allen based on useless preseason performance is lunacy. The fact that they did not have a veteran mentor for Allen is lunacy. The fact that they even trusted Peterman to be a backup to Allen or anyone is lunacy. The fact that they thought they would be fine with THIS Horrible oline , a raw rookie QB backed up by a QB who performed that horribly is lunacy. I just cannot understand how Beane and McD can even try to justify this mismanagement. At the very least they have to man up and admit they have completely sh*t the bed on this entire QB file. I just wonder how Pegula feels as he watches this slow moving train wreck???

The easy answer is that the preseason has become entirely irrelevant as a means of evaluating talent. Teams are now benching their starters for whole games or not even dressing them at all. Peterman does great when he is picking apart rookie defenses or practice squad defenses. Not so much vs savvy vets in real games.

If he played for the Panthers he would already be here and starting Sunday.