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Of course when the Bills are in a great position with an almost impossible PAT in terrible conditions. They have Vinatieri kick it. Only one of the greatest (Perhaps GOAT) kickers and cold weather kickers with the Pats ever.

Ironic, A much better field in regular conditions but way worse in snow than terrible 80s astroturf!!

That TD may be enough to win the game LOL

Heres a question, are these field turf fields not able to have a small bladed plow scrape the snow off? I can remember these games with astroturf in the 80s and 90s and field was much clearer. Will a plow destroy this field?

I know this is sacrilege to say but the novelty of watching this game in this terrible snow has worn off. Its a brutal, terrible football game right now and the snow has negated any skill of these players. I really think they should postpone games like this until the weather breaks.

They should put Webb in there on a few drives. It will keep the D off balance. Peterman needs premium protection or it will be a repeat of SD. Most importantly, Dennison needs to think on his feet and play an intelligent chess game vs the Colts.

I agree with all of this the post was spot on. The only thing I would add about Ralph was that while I appreciated him doing a lot to keep the Bills in Buffalo, the Bills in Toronto series was the final straw of his ownership. I have never been more infuriated than having to watch those terrible games so Ralph and Ted Rogers could make some $ in Toronto. It was a really big insult to Bills fans. Perhaps it wasn't Ralph's fault as he was getting doddery and eccentric (The "Wilson said" speech for ex) at that point. Maybe Ralph was advised to do it by underlings. Who knows. I would add that the SB losses crushed Ralph (as it did all of us fans) and he was never the same man after. Always felt bad that Ralph never won a SB to go along with the AFL championship, he deserved it.

Speaking of the tuck fumble by Brady. It was called a fumble by the refs and then overturned by replay. Would they have reviewed it in 2001 based on the review rules if it had not occurred inside 2 minutes?? If Brady fumbles it 2 plays earlier then its a fumble with no review? correct?

No I lumped an entire fanbase after 16 years of the obnoxiousness based on a multitude of evidence. It started on those Alt. usenets boards, it evolved on Messageboards, comment sections on NFL.com and MSN, Pats fans I have met in person etc. Years of Dbaggery!!!! And besides I was half kidding about my observations, lighten up !!

Pats fans (the real ones) are insufferable. There is a high dbag content in this group that is permanently obnoxious. The fact that they have had so much success over the last 16 years has only emboldened them to new heights of Dbaggery. The Gronk hit on Tre only confirms this. The fact that they think they are hard done by with a one game suspension is hilarious. A good portion of these Pats fans subscribe to the theory (which is flabbergasting) that the refs are always against the Pats. Yes I stated that correctly. Just go to the comments area of the NFL.com to see this every time the Pats lose etc. In addition to the regular Pats fans, there are a multitude of fairweather "plastic" Pats fans in other cities who are almost equally obnoxious but thankfully these bandwagoners will disappear when Brady and BB retire.

I think the Bills were not as bad as we thought. At the same time I think that once they were 5-2 many on here got ahead of themselves and started to delude themselves that they were BETTER than they were. The sad fact is that we should have made the playoffs at least 3-4 times in the drought period but we have had mediocre teams who never seemed to get any breaks. They had bad luck or they couldn't recover from horrendous officiating. This year we have actually got some good luck and the officiating has been slightly less incompetent than usual (even going in our favor like Atlanta). Add to this that most of the AFC is terrible and you get a team that's on the edge of the playoffs. We have even lost 3 winnable games this year. The Carolina, Cincy and NYJ games were all winnable games. We could be 9-3 right now if we had a couple of breaks in those games or just slightly better play calling. Alas I think we still miss the playoffs by a game which will really SUCK.

First football game was CFL Ticats vs Alouettes in 1979 in Hamilton. An incredible game where the Ticats scored on a long punt return TD and then the Als took the ensuing kickoff back for TD. First Bills game was in 1983 vs the Saints when my dad took me on his engineering company's party bus. As a naïve 15 year old I was astonished by how much those guys could drink, they were completely wasted. The Bills eked out a victory but Saints threw a couple of hail Mary's right near the end and almost got a lucky TD. On the way home the drunken engineers forced the bus driver to pull over on the side of the QEW so they could take a massive communal pee at the roadside.

Oh they didn't waste him , On the contrary the Bills inept offenses provided him with so many opportunities to punt that he became a punting superstar because of it!!!! There were definitely no cobwebs on his legs!!!

whoa , wait a minute you just made some sense!! Stop it! You would think that's what they would be doing. We are stretched so thin and our practice squad was a shallow group of talent to begin with. Why not go after the best teams depth in the practice squad? Probably because our coaches and GM are typical of the rest of the NFL: stubborn and stupid and blind to the big picture. They should take full advantage of the good teams (ESP the Pats) eye for future talent.

All Bills players should take a WW1 British army style rum ration. Worked great for the Brits, theirs soldiers didn't complain at all as they walked to their deaths in a hail of German machine gun fire at the Somme. Kinda like Bills/Pats!

Exactly do the Pittsburgh Steelers offense from 1995 Neil O'Donnell, pocket QB with super sub Kordell Slash Stewart as mobile running QB. It cant be worse than Peterman's 5 INts all by himself.

Sorry the Steeler's helmet hits Burfict in the facemask then the helmet. Check the replay from the steelers end zone, its pretty clear. Its illegal all day long in 2017 and very dangerous. He could have chosen to hit him a little lower in the mid chest with the same devastating blocking effect but he chooses to hit him high. Burfict is a dbag and the hit was karma but these players are idiots! Now JuJU SS will be targeted by the Bengals and the vigilante justice will go on. Later in that game on the Brown TD he takes a wicked headshot from Bengals db. How much evidence do this players need that headshots are devastating long term injuries. It should be a hit to the head equals ejection and then min 1 game suspension.

Well I was going to post Gronk's knee exploding vs the Browns on YouTube. But the NFL no like that linked from here. But check it out on YouTube and here's hoping that its deja vu soon for this slobbering idiot.

What kind of self obsessed Ahole appeals a most obvious, cowardly and indefensible hit that luckily resulted in a very light penalty?!!! OMG I never thought I could hate the Pats anymore than I already did. Cheating, being gifted the last 2 SBs by the idiots on the other sidelines. Nope, not enough. Win at all costs, play dirty, rub it in. If Belichick actually thinks the hit was "BS" he would order the might dbag Gronk to NOT appeal and FINE him himself. and to think I actually felt sorry for Gronk when his knee got shattered vs the Browns in 2013. And he did that to Tre while his team was winning a game by a mile late in the 4th quarter. Yet he is going to appeal? on what grounds??

It would at least get that hoodoo off our backs. Sure we cannot do anything about the superbowls, or the Home run throwback but the irritating drought stat would be gone!!

I knew they would fire that greaseball!! The mafia hair did him in!! well actually he was a pretty awful coach. Benching Eli was a bad call and done to cover his own failures.

Don't be delusional. Every Bills fan wants the playoffs. Even if they lose 70-0 in the WC game, we want the playoffs. If only to end the nauseating media talk of the drought, to stop talking about the Flutie benching playoff curse. To stop us being the butt of a national/international jokes. Getting to the playoffs would get that pressure off us, hit reset and maybe open up a small window of belief/hope going forward.

I was thinking the exact same thing. Gilmore had pretty smothering borderline coverage on Zay Jones and the other Bills esp during that Peterman drive into the red zone. If he had done that on the Pats just last year he would have been flagged multiple times.

That's one of the interesting observations about Saint Doug. He quickly saw that EJ was useless and never going to be a QB. In desperation he got Kyle Orton who actually was a decent option in his offensive scheme. He took so much heat from the fans for benching EJ but ultimately he was right to do it. EJ was useless and continues to be so. Marrone was a dick but compared to the others at least he figured out what we could work with and was able to get the best out of them. Mularkey had Bledsoe for one season but the decline was already evident. Losman was garbage and Holcomb was marginal at best. Mularkey overall was a weak coach, didnt work with what he had. wanted to do things his way and didnt adjust that for his players. Anthony Lin, never had a chance to lead this team so I don't really sweat letting him go.

But its not hockey. The role of a captain is way different in football. Its all about leading the plays on the field (and the all important coin toss!!!) Besides I don't think NFL players are brawlers. When you have a sport where you can lay a huge lick on someone perfectly in the rules and put them in a lot of pain you do that rather than throw a punch after the whistle. NFL players usually never expect to see a dirty hit like that. The Bills players including Kyle were either a) stunned by what the saw and didn't react b) Didn't believe what they saw, because that stuff rarely happens or c) Didn't even see the play. A hothead like Jerry Hughes is just the type of player to brawl with Gronk not Kyle. Hughes is big and heavy enough to do it. He must have seen it happen or why mouth off? I more disappointed in Hughes than Kyle. If you are going to get a penalty then earn it.