BringBackFergy

You mean they weren't prescribed by a doctor? That's weird. How did those kids get them?

You skipped a step...how did they get to Vicodin and Oxy? My point is, probably by starting with something less potent and wanting to increase that effect.

There's one thing that I keep thinking about when reading this thread: a client of mine (unfortunately) who went to college and studied physics. He was brilliant in high school and smoked pot. Great parents. While at college he continued to smoke weed but began to dabble in other things (smoking weed, then crack cocaine, then the heroin). Next thing I know, he crashes into a few cars one night because he is unconscious. The cops revive him and he goes to inpatient where he graduates and is discharged. I get a great deal for him all ready to go to court and I get a call that he crashed into another person's garage because he collapsed behind the wheel on heroin again (not two weeks after being discharged). Another client of mine smoked a lot of weed since high school...same idea. Arranged for a great deal for him on a reckless driving charge and took the plea. He moved out of state and just heard that he was arrested on a felony charge for distribution in NC. I guess I see the bad side of marijuana use more and more as opposed to the cool, chill, relaxed college kids enjoying it (which, again, I really don't mind and didn't mind when I was that age). The more cases I see, the more I'm convinced it is a gateway type drug that drives the user to find a better/more dramatic "high" (leading to heroin, crack, pills, etc). I understand not all recreational users will follow that gateway into bad drugs, but some do.

I wasn't the one who said "non-smokers" are prejudiced by relying on a 1970's White House counsel memoir....the tinfoil hat crowd loves them some conspiracy stories.

See? That's the type of response I was referring to..."You must be dumb and ignorant because no one does pot before games. Do your research Fergy you ignorant dope!" http://nypost.com/2016/09/18/i-played-stoned-some-nfl-players-love-getting-high-before-kickoff/amp/ When a rule is in place and some choose to use weed even though the employer bans it, how is discussing that ignorant? When someone breaks the law, is it ignorance to point this out? Just trying to decipher your logic calling someone ignorant.

Let me say this: I have friends that smoke pot and know I don't and they are still good friends. I sense from some of the responses here that some of you guys can't fathom how someone chose not to smoke because it was illegal when I was younger (and still is). If I can't be part of your "club" or clique, I'm sorry you feel that way. Talk about prejudice.

If they smoke after games and on days off (in states where it is currently legal) I don't see a problem with it. There are players that smoke before games....that's where I'm confused. It's a pain reliever, mellowing agent in a sport that requires cat-like reflexes. Good attempt.

Your comment (not to mention the other guy above) is dripping with condescension. Is there a way to have a reasonable discussion without the preachiness vibe?

Prejudice???? Lol. You serious?

As far as I know, ETOH (whether pre-game or post-game) isn't illegal.

Sounds that way.

Wait...I thought you were the one who said they smoke after games in order to relax and unwind? Do you have anything that resembles constructive input or just generic snarkiness?

I'm using the same percentages that you use in claiming they don't. Based on our own #99, I'm think my estimate is conservative. As for the argument that the incidence rate goes down as the stakes get higher, once again, refer to #99's $100 million contract ("how could he do such a thing?")

Once again - think of Randy Moss (30 for 30: Rand U) He was high during high school and college games. Why not the NFL?

That's helpful. Do you think guys who smoke the more invigorating brands have a "leg up" over guys that just drink Gatorade? (Think Randy Moss in "Rand U")

Who says it's not a game thing? Is there a "pot-a-lyzer" device that screens the players each game? I would wager 25% of players are high on game day.

Use your half-baked brain. Honest question. Marijuana slows your reaction time...why use it in an ultra-reactive sport? So when you make $600,000 per game, you feel stressed out and need something to take the edge off? Got it.

2015 was only two years ago Chef.

...why do NFL guys smoke it? Are they that stressed out? Don't they want to be more upbeat and on edge as a player? I haven't smoked it (more of a beer guy), but the effects of pot (from what others have said) is contrary to what NFL players should be looking for in terms of their approach to the game (relaxed vs detail oriented). Am I wrong?

Dayum...looks like Edelman may have mussed up Gilly's hair.

These guys are from a small town in VT (just over the border from me). I know the drummer's Dad and have heard them play many times. Not my favorite type of music but these guys are pretty talented. https://youtu.be/HA3ukIAPfDk

lol

But you'll miss all the draw plays. 😄

Typical. I'm gonna let him stay there and wash dishes.

Shoot, I even responded. Smh