Mango

So they're basically all the same-ish. Seems like a change of scenery was good for all parties.

God, we're becoming the Patriots and we haven't even won one SB. This is wildly embarrassing.

Sheesh. Teams like the Chiefs and the Bills are dead until they are actually dead.

I totally agree. I was just piggy backing to continue whinning about the lack of practice that teams do these days. Guys are barely in the facility at all. It is slowly eroding the Sunday product and TNF is throwing gasoline on the fire.

And on top of that these guys are barely practicing anyways. It is killing the product.

Not that they are the same. But didn't the Patriots do this once, then go on to like 14-2 and win the SB?

Am I supposed to show my ticket stub or something before I comment? I was there. Lol.

Actually you have to keep leaving. You are part of the luck. Everybody do everything the exact same going forward please. Anybody who left both games early, and attend another game where we are losing need to exit the stadium immediately. This is not a drill.

Do you guys thing Josh was saying "Have more faith in me" or "Have more faith in the Buffalo Bills"? Obviously Josh isn't addressing any of us individually, hes speaking broadly about the 20k+ people that left the stadium early. And he is clearly saying "Don't sleep on the Buffalo Bills". The idea of getting into the weeds about "what about my specific situation" in relation to "I wasn't leaving because of YOUUUU, Josh" is weird.

This is one of those cases where a lot of things are true at the same time. Scale matters here. Of course every game has people who leave early for various reasons. And at a micro level, whatever. But the scale of Sunday night was bonkers. I think you and anybody else can leave early, especially when that is your weekly cadence, but I also think that because of the scale in which people left we, as a fan base deserve all the criticism coming our way. That stadium was empty. It is tough to explain how empty it was.

So this is sort of my understanding of it as well. But I thought that maybe it would be offsetting penalties and they would replay the down.

Nearly half the stadium left. This isn't an 8:20pm game issue. We deserve all the smoke we get.

I was there. The filtering out with started with about 10 minutes left in the 4th. It was bonkers. Dare I say bordering on disrespectful. It is 2 possessions and we have Josh Effing Allen. The only way I can explain it is that 1. The primetime game always seems to always draw a totally different crowd. Almost like people are there because of the nationally televised game, not the match up itself. 2. It is possible we have become soft in our successes. In 2010 we would have more people sticking around to boo this team off the field than we did to stick around to cheer for the comeback. I don't buy the "well it was late" narrative. I am a season ticket holder, and this exodus was something I haven't seen in quite some time and we have had primetime games. These people aren't leaving if the score was reversed (and held), the stadium would have roared the team off the field. Anyways, for a fan base that gets so much national attention for being "die hards" this was a pretty embarrassing showing on National TV. If Miami or Jacksonville did this we would have a 96 page thread on what trash fans they are. Be better.

I'm not sure O'Connell does either. When I turned the game on JJM was 1/2 for 5 yards or something like that. It was the second quarter. I feel like KO is at the very worst a "fine" coach and has made due with some very"meh" QB's. This game from JJM has the same vibe as that game JP Losman threw like 8 passes. They know they're toast.

Totally uneducated guess. He is in for pass pro on a passing down. Nobody expects him to run a route, they expect him to stay in and block for Allen. It isn't a trick, as we have seen with Cook, the staff puts a premium on the ability to pass protect on must have passing downs.