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Oh, also having sec with someone knowing you have an STD but not telling the other person about it, may also be a crime

Except she’s a minor and that’s the description people are using - that Araiza had sex with a minor

However, the criticism the Bills didn’t talk to the victim is kinda crazy. She’s a Jane Doe. Primary concern here is to protect the alleged victim, and I really doubt the Bills had any path to speaking with her directly. That’s what the attorney is there for

I mean it’s easy - cut him. Both practically and morally that’s the path they should take

Not entirely - I've been a Bills fan since like the 1980s when was old enough to become aware of fandom. We're stakeholders in this organization, and at least a little bit of our identity if woven into Bills Organization....and I want them to do the right thing

huh? what claims were negated?

Because he's trying to force the hand of the DA

I don't believe you're asking the correct question

It really is as simple as this. Were the Bills ok knowing their player had sex with a minor, regardless of circumstance?

I don't think anything happens with Araiza until the SD DA releases charges. And with such public interest in the case, that process probably speeds up.

He's not staying silent, he's speaking through his lawyers

you're probably right, and it's unfortunate if Matt becomes a victim or a larger narrative - but honestly the response to the me too movement, and to the Watson accusers, and any number of women who've been brave enough to step forward - that I actually blame men who attack women who step up for Araiza getting cut for moral outrage. I mean women root for the Bills. They spend money on their kids to buy stuff, they vote, they have jobs that impact the Bills....the organization needs to be sensitive to that We live in times where people want to make accusation of a crime a worse crime than the crime itself. I go back to the rhetorical question - why don't women step forward? We're seeing it on twitter and other places, and we're definitely seeing it from this lawyer who's calling a 17 year who likely was raped, a scam artist chasing his client for money - publicly. This is just disgusting and chilling behavior

The Bills shouldn't be cutting players for sleeping around. I'm less inclined to be critical of the Bills right now, given that Matt likely told them "we were at a party, she said she was 18, she didn't seem drunk. I had no idea what happened to her after she gave me a BJ outside". There's evidence of rape, but there's only circumstantial evidence that includes Araiza. I don't blame them for keeping him around. If the working world got rid of people that someone somewhere morally objected to we wouldn't have a functional economy

HAVING SEX WITH A PERSON UNABLE TO GIVE CONSENT AKA BEING DRUNK IS RAPE

I'm being deductive, admittedly I'm doing so in a semi irritated manner, but that's also the logical road the OP set himself on by blaming a child for lying and underage drinking and saying the person who had sex with her shouldn't necessarily face consequences for that

It's better than what other teams would do.

Problem is he admitted to having sex and told her she should get checked out, and when she asked him if he had actual sex with her, is when he turned into a robot

And the punishment for lying about one's age and underage drinking is rape?

The bills reached out to Jane Doe's lawyer ASAP after he reached out to them. That's a good thing.

it's incumbent on Araiza to not have have sex with a young woman of indeterminate age who's wasted. In other words, don't rape her

That's a fairly meaningless if she was drunk

I think she'd tell you she was intoxicated she wasn't capable of relaying this information

There’s also the DA’s discretion that counts for quite a bit here. California law doesn’t say anything about intent but I can’t imagine most DAs not considering what a reasonable person would think about age in that situation. if it turns out she was wasted that’s an entirely different situation. Girls have the right to get drunk without being raped, and rape isn’t the punishment for girls going out and having fun

And this is probably what Matt told the Bills. Along with the evidence of violence it would not be enough for me, personally. But it’s also reasonable to think that it would be enough for other reasonable, smart and empathetic people. I’m not a moral cop and I don’t care how much you slept around in college so long as you weren’t hurting others while doing so