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You forgot about the upcoming sanctions for Spygate 2.0. Could cost them a high draft pick.

How often does copycatting work? Follow your own path. We have a good one.

I'll also add, what does it say about the process if we sign good character guys, watch them outperform their contracts, and then refuse to pay them when it's time. How will the other players view the team? Will they play as hard? Will they start seeing Buffalo as a bridge to another team who pays them? How will we be any different to how we were during the drought, letting players like Jason Peters and Stephon Gilmore go to greener pastures. I don't think it's a question that you resign Poyer. We have the 3rd most cap in the league. Everyone talks a big game about retaining talent. Here's a dude that gave everything he had for 3 years leading us to the best heights we've seen in 20 years. He misses a couple tackles late in the year and now people want to pretend he's trash so they don't have to pay him? I hope we're not that kind of organization.

You don't mess with chemistry. Would be an epic blunder to let Poyer go.

I love it. The ridiculousness of our accepted reality being exposed by OBJ. Who's the bad guy? The guy handing out cash to a bunch of college kids celebrating a national championship? The kids smoking cigars in the locker room while celebrating? OBJ for slapping a cop on the butt who is on a power trip during the greatest moment of the kids' lives? Everyone needs to loosen up. Including some people in this thread. I thought it was awesome. The cops and the NCAA are the party poopers here.

"He never had a chance with the team around him" is the same thing we would be saying about Josh Allen if he sucked. Except he overcame it. Rosen didn't. Not even a sliver.

Painkillers, baby. Take the shot and get on the field.

Would love to keep the band together but paying Jordan that kind of money is too risky. We might look back and regret letting him go, but I think we're more likely to regret paying him when we're going to have so many more great players to resign in the future. I say keep Shaq and let Phillips get a big contract elsewhere. No hard feelings. Thanks for the amazing year.

It's good. But like with everything else, a bad sports psychologist could screw a player's head up worse than it already is. More art than science IMO. I hope they hire someone good, not just someone with an impressive resume.

Texans were on borrowed time apparently.

Why did you say "Sorry" to me? Why are you so attached to Mahomes being good? Let's get it out of you. The real reason.

I just read what I said. But it's not about what I said. It's about you.

I said "let's see what he's made of". But you seem to have your agenda.

Adversity is a b*tch. Figure it out, Mahomes.

Let's see what Mahomes is made of. He was given a bust in Canton before he proved himself in these types of situations.

This is why I had such a difficult time getting over the Houston loss. What's the wisdom in waiting until next year, if there's a glorious opportunity now? Remember the 05 Sabres vs the 06 Sabres?

Can this guy look any worse a few weeks later? Fans donate to his charity instead of talk smack. One fan flies to confront him physically and the guy freaks and calls the police. The Ravens lose shockingly in the 1st round with their prized QB potentially exposed. What else can you call this guy but a loser?

Knee-jerk reactions. Jealousy. Crabs-in-a-bucket. Absolute lack of class. Welcome to the underworld of the city of good neighbors.

Couldn't happen to a better guy.

It's weird how the middle class/working class has been brainwashed to instantly attack any person who files a lawsuit. Bad things DO happen to people. Not everyone is just out for a quick buck. Sometimes they do deserve it. Same attitude towards the "Dallas is going down" guy.

You're not 100% wrong. Lamar and Baker were the ultimate instant gratification. "I want to be a millionaire and drive a red Ferrari when I'm 18" type of QB. Josh Allen is the ultimate delayed gratification. "I'm going to build my fundamentals to the fullest and do it right, and have no debt and millions of dollars in the bank when I'm 35" type of QB. Hope that made sense. We're doing it right. The Mahomes and Lamar's have not yet shown they can handle adversity. They're the equivalent of trust fund babies who get treated like everyone else had the same opportunities. Allen is the ignored blue-collar guy who is overcoming the odds. The city should have had his back from the beginning. I remember one poster told me after my Lamar thread that if I figured out Lamar and nobody else has, then I should be a DC. Well, I guess he was right

I've seen that with him earlier in the season. I'm talking before the Bills game even. He has not been tested anywhere near as much as Allen, and when he has been tested, has not handled it well. It's a trend. When you give a guy that kind of love before he has gone through the ringer, there could be a very powerful "snap back". That's why Allen is so impressive.

I was hoping for something worse but I'll take it!

I got beat up for this bad after starting the Lamar thread after the Bills game. Glad to see cooler heads prevail. The national media love was too intense, and millions of fans went along for the ride.

This. It's a natural correction. I feel like many of the Bills fans that are ardently supporting Lamar, were anti-Allen during the pre-draft process or Wrong Josh. Lamar was just an opportunity to move the goalposts. That's why they have such a weird man crush on him, considering he plays for the Ravens.