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That's not true. They built a brilliant offense around his strengths, with top notch blocking and great execution. They have a consistent history of winning and expect to win. It's the same reason the Steelers are in the running for a wild card spot without Big Ben. That's what winning organizations do. Lamar is not a one man show on offense. That O-line is stellar. The tight ends do their job and Ingram is a tough RB. They just play Raven football with the same attitude that's been there since Ray Lewis.

You insulted me because I insulted the "game of football"? I didn't mean to make fun of your favorite QB. You clearly watch all his games and root for him so you would know better than I do. I apologize for having the gall for suggesting a blueprint to stop him. From now on, I will message you directly for permission.

You meant to post this on your "Barkley1QB" account.

Look, first you insulted me by insinuating that I'm some mastermind for solving Lamar Jackson. Then you back peddle away from that when I call you out. If you disagree with something, then say it. Don't be like RavensLord1. If a man is getting overrated, it means others are being underrated. He's a good read-option QB. He made some nice throws, I agree. He's supposed to in the NFL. I thought Josh made some nice throws too. But the love-fest is too much. Not only do I not think it's strange to try to counter-balance a falsehood (ex. Lamar is an incredible QB), I believe it is only right to speak out. We've all been bombarded for weeks about how he's going to scorch us. Well he didn't. And I need to keep my mouth shut about it? It's "strange"?

I'm saying he is not an MVP. I'm saying that he is a great read-option QB on a great winning organization and nothing more.

Ravens won. 53 guys on the team + coaching staff. IMO he was a game manager today. Not an NFL MVP.

Bullseye on my last shot. Were you a Jets fan or a Ravens fan last year? Double bulls?

That thought process is why everyone's opinion changes like the wind nowadays.

OK. You have 3 more hours before bedtime. High school is tomorrow.

In 4 years, when our QB is dominating the entire field, and yours is on his 3rd team, we'll see who was right.

Best QB in the NFL? Keep riding the wave. Truth doesn't make one a bitter loser. But a Ravens fan coming on a Bills board after a win to gloat is a bit closer to that.

You're exactly right. I forgot about the 12 man snafu.

I thought it was strange at the time too. Like, why not take a moment to consider WHY a competent front office like ours might've made that move instead of just freaking out. After watching some college videos, I understood. He's elusive and has great vision. If he was fast, he would've gone in the 1st. Did fans want Adrian Peterson in the 3rd round? We had aging RB and Shady just had a shaky year. Sometimes I'm proud of our fanbase, but sometimes I just wish they would think before speaking and have more thoughtful opinions.

Great at what he's good at, but limited overall. Would like to see Allen's map vs Lamar's for the entire season.

Best summary I've seen. 1 or 2 plays decided this game.

Let's just let time decide. You seem more emotionally invested in Lamar Jackson's success than me.

So my opinion is outlawed?

Exactly. I felt like they only run the same few plays. Always throwing to the TE across the middle.

You used your 3 TDs as a counterpoint to why he's still a great QB. I'm saying he's a great read-option QB who can make good throws sometimes. Not going to be much better than he already is. And those 3 TDs were not something exemplary. You assume people are "jealous" and "lying" to you in this thread. I think people are pretty balanced today considering a loss. Why is a Ravens QB the hill that a Bills fan is willing to die on?

He's right. A playground shovel pass and a blown coverage resulted in touchdowns. You can disagree, but don't say it doesn't make sense. Well there's your moral victory.

I think he was #3 or #4 on the list of reasons they won. And again, my OP was in the context of all the hype. As for moral victories, there's a time and place for them IMO. I think this game is the place. Sometimes they're lame, I agree. But when you lost to Goliath by 7 points with a chance tie it up, and you're overachieving, then I think it's fine. Against the Steelers, I would agree with you.

I wonder what the coaching staff is seeing, or not seeing, in practice to keep Duke inactive. Does anybody here have any suspicions about what it is?

People keep saying that to me and it's false. It's the 4th game I've seen, and I don't normally watch 4 games of the Ravens in a typical regular season. I stick by it, he's a great read-option QB. He will flame out as teams learn to counteract their deception behind the line.

I don't think he lived up to the hype at all. 3 TDs is nice, but I didn't see the unstoppable force everybody was claiming he was the past 10 days on this board.

I think he's one of the elite returners in the NFL. He's been a bit unlucky on returns, but that's the NFL in 2019 for you. Do we really want Hyde out there risking injury? Or some special teamer who might muff the kick? Roberts will get us those 7 extra yards on a punt every time. I like having stability back there. I wouldn't mind seeing Duke given a shot, but not at the expense of Roberts.