Dorkington

Joy.

Awesome

60-1 seems awfully optimistic.

I don't get upset when people don't know who's on the Bills. I'm certainly not super familiar with all of our opponents, especially those outside our division.

I can't possibly do a top 5 all time. I never had a chance to watch some of the older greats, and highlight packages tend to paint things with rose colored glasses. So for *my* history, in no particular order, I'm going with: Manning Brady Montana Marino Young Honorable mentions: Kelly, Moon, Favre, Brees, Rodgers... and I know I'm forgetting a couple...

I hear people B word that others should be fired all the time. Especially when directed at customer service representatives. LET ME SPEAK TO THE MANAGER, I DIDN'T GET EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED WHEN I WANTED IT HOW I WANTED IT! THEY SHOULD BE FIRED FIRED FIRED

I guess next time I'll bold the positive part of the statement, so you people don't take the constructive part of the statement too negatively.

Love the way Kiko plays, but he has a lot to improve on if the Bills are going to shore up the run D.

I agree that we should upgrade the position, just saying that RT isn't as dire as LG, at least imo.

From earlier: Glenn +23 Urbik +7.6 Wood -5.1 Pears -5 Brown -30.1 Legursky -12.5

My memory is a bit foggy, but didn't we get an offer of a 3rd rounder from someone? New Orleans or something? I agree its better to have something rather than nothing, but I also feel like we could have gotten more than what we did, or at the very least drafted better in general, heh (but that doesn't exactly happen around here).

A) We don't need the distraction. B) We don't need to highlight how mediocre/bad we are. It's already embarrassing enough being a Bills fan outside of Buffalo.

I agree here. And RT is "ok" (could be improved, but not nearly as bad as LG). What's the word on Hairston? I think the OL looked about "average" over the year. Our sketchy QB play made them look bad at times, and so did Spiller's inability to choose the right hole. On the other end, Jackson's ability to grab extra yards at the end of the runs made them look better, heh.

I don't see a reason why they should be narrowed. Just because kickers are better now, doesn't mean anything. That's like saying we should make the field narrower and longer because WRs and RBs are faster/stronger.

If you can't recognize Brady's skillset, then you're clearly watching different games than I am. Sure, as a Bills fan, I hate Brady, because he's better than any QB we have ever had (yes, I said it). But as a football fan, I can't help but appreciate his career.

Depressing.

I like Manning. Respect Brady. And I like watching both the 49ers and Seahawks. So really, its a win for me, with 3/4 teams. And as much as I'm tired of Brady, he's one of those greats that I'll look back on and feel lucky I had the chance to witness his career.

My biggest hope is that EJ averages 2 or 3 less bad games a year going forward. I think that'd win us a few extra games by itself.

Nothing new. I think most of us aren't expecting greatness from our QBs, but we also know that we are invested in EJ for at least another season, if not two.

Even the Bills think he'll end up outside.

Love this thread for so many reasons.

Don't really have any personal favorites, but I do enjoy when some of my friend's teams do well. Being that I have friends from all over the country, its kinda nice haha. Right now, the only team left of my friends is the Packers, so I guess I'll be going for them.

I'm not believing Brandon's sales pitch a second longer. Show me results, and I'll Billieve again.

He played at arguably a probowl level this year. You don't do that while being "lazy". He showed up late to some meetings, that'll be fixed. People wanting him off this team, or accusing him of being Haynesworth or whatever, are jumping the shark.

We got better defensively, definitely. But offense is still stagnant. Unless our defense becomes historical, we're still going to be looking at losing seasons, if we have such a mediocre offense. We need Manuel to step up. We need Marrone to make better roster choices. We need our FO to fill gaps in our roster without creating new ones. We go through this every coaching change. First year some changes are made that are different than the previous staff, but we still have a losing record. Since there's change though, we got all sorts of hope. I'm tired of hope.