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I highly doubt that the calculus of whether Sammy's foot would allow him to see the field, or even his spot on the roster had any impact on Kyle Williams' decision to play another NFL season for $6,800,000. Rest easy, he isn't losing any sleep over this.

Which part is wrong? The part where Sammy hasn't been available for much of his career with a host of injuries, including a nagging surgically repaired foot, or the part where he becomes a free agent at the end of the season and can literally sign with ANY of the other 31 NFL teams?

Confirmed people in this thread calling Sammy Watkins the #3 WR in the NFL. Also saw the claim that obtaining a CB and a high second round draft choice is trading him for peanuts while disregarding that after this season he walks and we get zero, zip, nada. Suspect that lots of these same characters are the same ones that had a stroke when the Bills "let Gilmore go with nothing in return". We get it, you wasted 100$ on that Watkins jersey. We all wanted better when we mortgaged the farm to trade up for him. We were really hoping for a Hall of Fame career, and a bunch of Lombardis. I know I did. But, then he broke his foot real bad and could never play, and half the time he did he was limping around, and every time he got tackled you'd wonder if he broke his rib again, or his foot, or whatever. It wasn't much fun. He didn't, and we still don't have an elite quarterback to feed him. If (and this is a huge if, obviously) we can use our acquired draft assets to finally land an elite-level top 10 quarterback, and if these trades gave us enough bullets in the chamber to make that happen, we'll remember this as the best thing that has happened to the franchise in decades. I wish Sammy health and an exceptional career. But, I'll lose no sleep if he turns everything around and becomes an actual elite player, because I follow the sport closely enough to know that it wouldn't have been in Buffalo even if we did rent him for one more year.

Typical every bad team that needs to rebuild.

If you were Sammy Watkins and became a free agent, can you give even one reason why you'd sign with Buffalo? He had a disdain for the city and its fans, is a warm weather guy, and would OBVIOUSLY want to play with a top tier quarterback in a larger advertising market on a contending team. So many people here assume that because you draft a player they just HAVE to resign there. It was never going to happen. Everyone had a meltdown when Gilmore left with the Bills getting nothing to show for it. And now they get market or above on a guy with a janky foot that has stayed healthy exactly never, but y'all would have rather let him walk for free. No wonder why the folks here are just little people working their little jobs and not NFL General Managers.

Yeah, let's do our best to never have an elite quarterback because a couple teams ever managed to fluke a Super Bowl with a garbage one. Solid strategy.

We have seen zero snaps of this defense, and zero snaps of Reggie Ragland. I know we love our busts here, but y'all are silly.

Lol the guy has had like two weeks of training camp and zero snaps in an NFL game. The intrepid scouts here are certain that he doesn't fit our scheme. A scheme that they have seen exactly zero defensive snaps of. You guys are hilarious.

I've read about and heard plenty of accounts that the foot is a question mark. Including from the Bills themselves and how they are managing the offseason.

You really are trying hard to make a comparison between Sammy Watkins and Julio Jones. This is utter lunacy. Let's put it this way: Any interest in a bet on who has the better NFL career at even money? Of course not, since it is probably somewhere north of 50-1 against Sammy ever reaching that level. Would be awesome (though it'd necessarily have to be with another team that isn't Buffalo), but it isn't going to happen.

Suggesting someone shouldn't make a post if/when Sammy Watkins comes up limping on his multiple-time surgically repaired foot is silly. The health and stability of his foot may literally be the number one most important thing that comes out of training camp and preseason this year. This sort of post is, IMO, a million times better and more informative than the thousand "Tyrod sucks" and "The Patriots/Belichick are too good" threads that I typically see. OP may be douchey or whatever, but the initial post was 100% in bounds. Also, huge lol at comparing Sammy Watkins to Julio Jones. Sure, both guys saw their teams give up a ton to draft them, and sure they both have had a janky foot. But Julio may be the best receiver in NFL history, and we declined Sammy's 5th year option. End of story.

Yeah I don't doubt he's a very competent head coach with a ton of NFL institutional knowledge. But, my personal opinion is that most NFL coaches put in the same position with the best quarterback in the history of the NFL would have a fistful of rings by now too.

Fun facts for the Belichick Best Coach Ever Biggest Genius Worship Me camp: Bill Belichick Head Coaching Record WITHOUT Tom Brady: 41-55 (.427 winning percentage) Bill Bilichick Head Coaching Record WITH Tom Brady: 196-60 (.766 winning percentage) That's right, Genius Bill lost almost the same number of games in 6 years than he lost in the 16 that followed after hitching his wagon to the single greatest player in NFL history. I'm sure that's just a coincidence though, right? Other fun Bill Belichick facts: As we saw, he enjoyed a .427 winning percentage WITHOUT Tom Brady. Dick Jauron achieved a .423 winning percentage in his NFL head coaching career. Doug Marron: .471 Rex Ryan: .480

The Belichick worship here gets a bit embarrassing sometimes. I'm sure he's a good enough coach, but let's not forget that he was a garbage failure and got canned by the Browns. Let's not forget that the Patriots were one of the worst franchises before they ended up backing into the best football player in NFL history. Since then, they've been the best team, their coach the best ever, all solid gold. And yet any player that has left instantly becomes irrelevant, coaches that have left have failed, and they've been a pretty poor drafting franchise. Having the single best player ever covers up a lot. They were garbage before, they'll be garbage again after. This too shall pass. People end up giving them far more credit than they deserve, and this non-story is no different.

Great OP. This thread, and Bills fans here in general pretty much directly reflect the climate of just about everything in the world now: Pick a side, identify with it, and defend it to the death no matter what. You either love Tyrod or think he's the worst qb in the NFL. If you hate him, no reasoned, methodical statistical argument will ever sway you. You either love Whaley, or wanted him fired. Didn't matter if he turned a scrap heap free agent into a 5th rounder, you were going to oppose everything anyway. This guy literally studied every single play run by every single quarterback in the NFL. Evaluated them all on the same set of criteria. But, if the findings don't support your "side", fall back to the facts being fake news and that your "eye test" proves otherwise. Sure, both you and the stats guy used the eye test to draw your conclusions. Who should you trust? The guy that studied every play run by every team year after year, or some jilted sports fan who feels miserable in his heart because his team isn't every good.

Sorry to tell you this bud, but you are wrong. Assertive and wrong.

Three picks in the first two rounds and two first round picks next year. Oh the humanity!

Three picks in the first two rounds and two first rounders next year. Oh the humanity!

Nothing funnier than reading some dummies on the Internet talking about how an NFL draft pick is "bad value" because someone was slotted at a certain spot on their draft board. When you know they have seen literally zero games said player has ever participated in.

The returned pick is #149 which is toward the top of Round 5 just FYI.

Home run.

Exactly. It might not have been the best decision, or maybe it was. It really is impossible to know now. But, to suggest that it was such a clear blunder when literally everyone who isn't the Big Bad Patriots agreed with us is a super stretch.

Two guys that were out of the league and unwanted by all other teams put up essentially identical numbers in the same role/system over the last two years. Perhaps we'll not be able to replace him, but we did literally do just that by signing him off the scrap heap in the first place. I wouldn't say acknowledging that is "fooling themselves".

Your whole premise is that MG is WAY more valuable than a 5th round pick, and we were foolish to trade him for one. That our GM is a complete idiot for letting him walk for a paltry 5th rounder in return. But yet, aside from the Patriots, ZERO other NFL franchises felt he was worth a 5th round pick. So, it's 31-1 with the Bills being on the side of the other 31 NFL teams that MG was unworthy of a 5th rounder. How does this at all imply that we laughably bumbled this?

Why did no other NFL team think MG was worth a 5th round pick at that salary, but we're the dumdums?