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Elijah Moore Visiting the Bills today (Update: Signed!)
NeverOutNick replied to bills742's topic in The Stadium Wall
Hopefully this happens. He or cooper are really the only options in free agency to get a deep threat and yes cooper still brings something to this offense even if it was limited last year. outside of grabbing Moore, maybe we can make a trade for an overloaded WR corps like Jmo on the lions or one of GBs plethora of WRs -
I’m glad you asked what I would do. Even if it were sarcastic. I wouldn’t have traded up for TJ sanders (feels like they’re admitting they missed on Carter, which kudos for being honest). If I were going to trade up that high why not go a couple more picks higher and grab Luther Burden, the most explosive WR in the class and a kid that can do it all and fills the vertical threat we need. Or stay put with the 2 picks at the end of the 2nd and take Kyle Williams, best vertical threat in the draft instead of Sanders. If they really needed sanders then fine at the bottom of the 4th to the top of the 5th grab Horton or Watkins. But I do like the players selected in that range. So let’s say they just couldn’t part with the TE they wanted (I actually like the corners selected in that range because I believe Hancock can be a free safety and get rid of Hamlin). How about this last ditch effort, can we trade a 7th rounder next year to move up and grab Tez Johnson? Yes combine sucked but the kid is a proven deep threat and very good returner. I like most of the defensive players we selected but the trades up for DT, bypassing vertical threats made it obvious that the FO and McD don’t value keeping the WR cupboard young and cheap imo
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Most of all that’s a coaching issue
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Didn’t like the way Beane came in hot. Valid questions were asked regardless of our point totals and per game last year. Lost respect for Beane after that nonsense. Grow a pair and answer the concerns of your fans and media without belittling them with fantasy football nonsense. You scored 30+ because you have Josh Allen don’t act like it’s much more than that. Invest in him with cheap long term options instead of expensive jags that other teams didn’t want and maybe get a player that can stretch the field and keep the safeties honest so Josh isn’t playing backyard 7 on 7 football
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Elijah Moore Visiting the Bills today (Update: Signed!)
NeverOutNick replied to bills742's topic in The Stadium Wall
He held his own and was composed. I think he could’ve done better and stayed firm and asked “Hey Brandon how are we pushing the safeties back with a bunch of guys who can’t separate? Hey Brandon is the plan to just keep re-signing other teams garbage instead of drafting our own? Hey Brandon do you think you’d lead the league in points with this WR corps and any other QB in this league besides Josh?” -
Is there an NFL team with a weaker WR group than the Bills?
NeverOutNick replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
You don’t think it’s impressive that they are always in the playoffs with a subpar QB? That’s curious -
Is there an NFL team with a weaker WR group than the Bills?
NeverOutNick replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
Tell this thinking to the packers regime who consistently have a plethora of WRs drafted in that range that seem to turn into instant contributors. If you want I can show you at least 10 mid round WRs from the past 2 years who are already contributing. Yes it may take them half a season or more to get in sync with their QB and an NFL playbook but it’s 4 years of cheap labor and then more often than not you get them on a team friendly deal like we did with Shakir -
Is there an NFL team with a weaker WR group than the Bills?
NeverOutNick replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
It’s not about getting Star WRs (although that’s a plus). The WRs we have now are not stars, besides maybe Shakir (and he was a 5th round pick). It’s about consistently getting young, cheap WRs for Josh to work with, just like we do for the d line. Some will pan out and some won’t but it’s the right strategy when you have your franchise QB. The constant retread JAGs aren’t the answer and the good WRs cost too much on there second contract. -
Is there an NFL team with a weaker WR group than the Bills?
NeverOutNick replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
We lost because our coaching staff is out matched vs playoff spags and Andy. But yes the WRs also aren’t clutch or get the separation needed to keep Josh from having to be Superman -
Bills 6th Round Pick (#1) : Dorian Strong - CB - VA Tech
NeverOutNick replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
Love Hamler but he didn’t seize his opportunity last year what makes you think this is the year? Samuel is and always will be a gadget player NOT a deep threat. He never has been and never will be Shakir is one of the best slot WRs in the league but not a deep threat, it’s not his game Virgil and Prather?… I guess here’s hoping one of them or one of the UDFAs is the guy but would’ve been nice to grab another more proven one in the draft like Kyle Williams. -
Is there an NFL team with a weaker WR group than the Bills?
NeverOutNick replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
Valid points but does this mean we should avoid drafting potential star WR talent? -
Is there an NFL team with a weaker WR group than the Bills?
NeverOutNick replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
Or even better, maybe just maybe we should look at the coaches 🤷🏻♂️. Seems to be the common denominator on why we can never get past the chiefs in the playoffs. He keeps investing in his defense with the same result. When is enough enough? -
Is there an NFL team with a weaker WR group than the Bills?
NeverOutNick replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
This is great stuff! 100% agree with all that is bolded but I’m not on board with the pay James Cook ending lol. Draft multiple offensive weapons. That’s how you keep this thing sustainable so you’re not paying RBs $15mil and WRs $20 mil/year. You must not have read anything from the first 2 pages of this post -
Is there an NFL team with a weaker WR group than the Bills?
NeverOutNick replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
I want to straighten you all out on something. The bills fans advocating for more help in the WR room for Josh are not stating we had a bad draft or that the defense doesn’t need help. We are stating let’s take the same approach you take on the defensive line to the WR room. Beane stated in his post draft presser that he wants to have the most competitive D line training camp and basically let the cream rise to the top even if it means we lose some really good linemen when final cuts happens. Why not do that for Josh at WR? Why not take the approach of teams with lesser QBs like the Packers and Texans or even the Chiefs, who every year bring in multiple drafted WRs and let it be a competition for who gets to be a WR with the best QB in the league. We’re not saying draft a first rounder every year but come on can’t we grab a couple mid to late rounders? Thats how you get guys like Puka, Dontayvion Wicks, Andrei Iosivas, Michael Wilson, just to name a few mid to late WRs the last couple years. Take a couple shots to help the ONLY reason your team is a perennial Super Bowl contender. And you can still have your everyone eats mentality, just with better, cheaper, long term options at the position who won’t have our once in a lifetime QB having to scramble for his life to throw up prayers to guys who can’t come down with clutch plays when it matters. -
Bills 6th Round Pick (#1) : Dorian Strong - CB - VA Tech
NeverOutNick replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
Are we surprised? Andy Reid is the goat and McD could have the Philly D and still play prevent D against him and lose -
You do realize that WRs you know the names of now started out as “random 4th round picks” when they were drafted (ask Shakir 😉). Just draft some WRs and stop trying to justify not being BPA when we know you’re lying after trading up for positions you really want for your coach. Now Hamler is one of my favorite PS guys but I have to admit he didn’t seize the opportunity last year and I doubt he does again this year. Shenault is not an NFL WR, he was brought in to compete for returner and will have a couple gadget plays a game if he makes the team. He’s a wasted WR slot because he doesn’t actually know how to run routes or be a receiver. Palmer may be fine but he’s overpaid for what little he’s done thus far.
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How did we improve the WR room by extending the guy we already had. And then grabbing the chargers 3rd WR, who played behind the awful Q Johnston. But we lost Cooper and Hollins. This draft class had speed at WR and that’s exactly what we needed a couple field stretchers but it’s ok we will cut last years 3rd round DT for the 2nd rounder we traded up for this year. No need to grab a couple WRs in the draft like the packers, Texans and other teams with franchise QBs do each year.
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Agreed. This feels like groundhogs day. Everyone is excited we had a “solid draft” but looking back we’re going to say hmmm should we have traded up just a couple more picks for that Burden guy. Man he is a playmaker instead of getting Sanders who is playing 30% of the snaps. Remember Carter over Franklin last year, what about Kincaid over moving up a couple picks for flowers? Just one of these days it’d be nice to have some real weapons for Josh so when we play the chiefs in the divisional or championship game someone can actually come down with the ball and we don’t have to rely on some jag like sherfield, or an overpaid diva like Diggs or a TE to come down with a clutch catch to be the difference. Maybe just maybe we draft multiple young cheap weapons for our franchise QB like EVERY other NFL team that has their franchise QB does. I mean Love sucks balls but every year it’s 2 new weapons for that loser. Just give Josh some darn respect
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Perfectly stated
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With the draft over it is time for the udfa thread
NeverOutNick replied to scuba guy's topic in The Stadium Wall
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I just can’t take him seriously anymore. He’s totally lying about not prioritizing D. You traded up twice for DTs. These softball questions from these reporters are a joke. Beane says I want to make it hard for someone to make the team on the D line, I want to get the best guys and make it competitive. ASK HIM “if what you said about d line competition is true, why don’t you ever do the same for the WR room? Do you think you’re giving Josh the best weapons to work with and choose from?…Just be honest and say, hey I’ve got a coach who loves the defense and we don’t care if Josh doesn’t have weapons because we’re going to bleed him dry until he can’t be Superman anymore. He’s so fake and he does that stupid face where you know he’s lying too. I still like him as our GM but I just hate the schtick after years of the same ol results with no real help for Josh
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You can keep forgetting about him. He’s not an actual WR. Just another returner with gadget ability
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Hope cooper comes back for a cheap one year deal. He’s a good dude and can stretch the field. Had a couple clutch plays in his limited playing time too
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With the draft over it is time for the udfa thread
NeverOutNick replied to scuba guy's topic in The Stadium Wall
He gone