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The cowboys linebackers played excellent but kamara (even before being knocked silly) seemed a little lethargic and wasn’t as sharp in route running, etc... he’s normally electric but also precise.

When you have 8 completions, “like two poor throws” isn’t great but it’s obviously not as bad as the writer framed either

Agreed very much.

I mean, my point wasn’t whether or not it’s a thing (for either climate or defense) but the thought process behind the argument being made of “see defense won a game!” Again, sustainable long term super bowl contention versus winning a Thursday night football game are pretty different convos. Ill say I think there’s a shift happening but that doesn’t mean we should field a JV group on defense.

I dont think anyone’s arguing that defense literally can’t win a game so this thread is kind of like your drunk uncle posting a picture of snow to refute climate change. also, in the playoffs, this game would’ve been in New Orleans.

Because their offense is generally as good as any (shorter on weapons outside but experienced great qb) and defense has generally played pretty well. on paper the rush d is a little overrated and pass d underrated due to teams having to pass against them.... but cam Jordan is an elite end and lattimore and excellent corner. Solid talent across the rest of the d line too. they are the team that outclasses most across the board and have done so to a lot of good teams.

Youve seen the last month of them, right? Not just tonight? also they only gave up 13 points tonight, despite not being sharp

I still think they are super bowl favorite

The dude got drilled in the ear hole and was stumbling getting up. It was honestly surprising to see him in the game.

I just don’t know how they call that PI but not the early one on the thomas play that was reviewed, for instance. Uneven crew (instances going both ways)

Saints aren’t a mystery - for 10 years its been interior pressure and a ton of speed at linebacker on defense to slow them down... plus some luck. Get in his face and take away rb2 in the passing game Much easier said said than done though.

let them score and hope to score twice?

Irrelevant to the play but how’s kamara not in protocol?

Huge fumble Cams quietly one of the best in the game

Refs not having a great player safety night

Yea, but who knows who’s there at 20 if we don’t take Edmonds. Heck, it could’ve been tremaine. Hard to guess but they got their guy and I do trust mcd with linebackers

With this defense if we add 2-3 pass catchers and a couple lineman what really separates us from the upper tier? Just qb, right? And you’d hope that those parts and a guy in year 2 would step up ala Goff, wentz, mahomes.... if you believe in this qb, coach and gm, then next year absolutely should be the first of a 3-4 year run where we as fans should expect to compete for a division title and be a team that can win a playoff game if you dont buy any of those three guys being legit, well 2 years from now isn’t a thing anyway. Again not arguing green specifically but this is the “make big moves” section of our story,

Fiesty come back to me noting that 8 completions isn’t a big enough sample to comment on YPC, or really much of anything. i think you are reading insults that aren’t actually being made, sir

With a young qb they are officially entering their best window. Time to build FAST. Not arguing either move is thevright one but it’s time for us to be that team that people say “how do they keep adding pieces” like the rams or chiefs. Rookie qb contracts are the magic ticket.

Hes firmly got his hand on the first rung of the ladder. We’ve had plenty of guys that missed completely and fell on their faces. So it’s big. Pulling himself up will now be the tricky part. He’s got about a year and a month to either get on there for real or wear out and slip off

If you want a premiere wr your talking a first or a couple day 2 picks, roughly. A fun prospect but not really the reliable #1 acquisition the thread seems to be seeking to find

Doesn’t that amount to “our OC doesn’t trust our qb so you can’t say the lack of attempts are a reflection on our qb?” Im not even knocking the guy, just saying you can’t get too high (or low) off the very limited amount he did... at their core I find your post defending allen more insulting to him than mine tempering expectations.

They lay a couple tough games a season. I’d rather now, get healthy and finish strong... though this certainly isn’t unwinnable. Score a road win on an off night would be great

Outside of Thomas, the saints group is pretty bad.

An interesting football 2018 thought.... if it’s incomplete isn’t it h2h defenseless receiver because the catch wasn’t completed? or does the bobble eliminate that? If so, how large a bobbles allowed?