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I will be surprised if there aren't a couple of them in Buffalo next season. And I don't mind..........most of those guys were great fits in their defense and can still play or should be very cheap or both.

In both cases they need a touchdown JUST TO TIE............hence they were never in position to win either game. Here's a little perspective for you "one score" defenders.........the Bills were 6-10 the year before and their point differential was just under -7 points per game............sure losing by "one score" is better than getting blown out but it doesn't really reflect much. Losing by 7 points is not a moral victory........it's a pretty standard NFL loss.

Specifically he picked up his play after the media started calling out his play. He still wasn't good but he was notably more active after public criticism.

Sure. But then 25-25 is 25-25...........and 0-6 against your biggest rival is still 0-6. -120+ point differential and the 30th ranked offense in 3 seasons is still what it is.......very poor. These guys didn't inherit a woeful team like ......just for example......Sean McVay with the LA Rams or Kyle Shanahan with the San Francisco 49ers.............it's OK to keep in perspective what they have(and have not) accomplished.

Ok they lost 3 of their last 4 "meaningful" games.........and the one win was narrow victory against Duck Hodges. It doesn't really make it any better. They had critical, winnable games in December at home against Baltimore and in New England and they played poorly and they scored late points to narrow the gaps but they were never in position to win either of those games. Pulling out the "one score" card after the sixth straight loss to NE for this regime is very, very weak.

It's only a good deal if they were dead-set-determined to keep him no matter the circumstances. Falling Star Lotulelei going into this season with no financial motivation whatsoever sounds like a bad idea to me.

On the flip side they are 25-25 with a staggering -120+ point differential in those 3 years. Mainly because their offense has been ghastly..........just ***** awful.......which is what @BillsVetis getting at with his investment take. They've been a lot luckier than good.......but as you mentioned they have a lot of assets to make a jump to the point where they stop getting slapped around when they start playing good teams(lost 4 of last 5 to finish season as the schedule finally toughened).

Greg Olsen Mario Addison Gerald McCoy Thomas Davis Josh Norman Luke Kuechly(sign as coach, activates if team makes playoffs and needs help) Lotta' potential "former Panthers" options McBeane could look at this offseason.

Just because fans don't like him or expect more it doesn't lessen what he may not bring to the team? That entire post is like the end speech in Animal House.?

Richie lost his mind in part due to the fact that lesser guards were signing big contracts after he had just taken an incredibly ill-advised pay cut. There won't be any DT of lesser quality than Star getting paid close to what he still is.

Star + next 3 years + with Bills = nofa king chance This was all about getting the one last season guaranteed.

Yes on the first part.......this basically protects him from getting gaffed on cut down day. That's what happened to LeSean McCoy........and he ended up taking a $2M pay cut signing with KC. The possibility that Harrison Phillips comes back strong and another 4th-6th round DT1T comes in and out-hustles Star and makes the Bills feel comfortable cutting him was every bit as good as the chances McCoy would be cut. I suspect a steadily declining, aging and recently mediocre run stuffer like Lotulelei would be looking at between a vet minimum and $2M contract on the open market at the end of August...........and that someone would have to be really short bodies. He might even have to wait until week 2 to sign when his contract would basically be week to week(in which case I suspect he'd have retired I don't think he wants it that bad based on his lack of effort). As for him being with the team in 2021...........I doubt it.........I won't be surprised if he's an healthy scratch by the end of the 2020 season. 2021 was always when he was going to be easier to cut.

Not even.........the Bills traded more picks to move up and select both Edmunds and Dawkins.

I suspect they will hold onto Murphy even if they have multiple DE acquisitions. Not much to gain from cutting him........he's at worst injury insurance and trade bait in August.

Well the reality for Hill is he'll be 30 years old before this season starts..........if someone offers him $20M for two years he should probably take it regardless.............I just don't know why anyone would. Yeah I have kinda' taken the position that the Bills will draft a CB and pick up Norman after he gets cut...........he's had success in the system and should be had for peanuts so little risk.

Yeah I thought it was one of the more interesting features of it's type I've read in a long time. I felt like the Bills got a little slighted in the big name movement.......but Freeman and Addison make a lot of sense. Taysom Hill signing an offer sheet with Buffalo is crazy though.............a second round pick will be a high price for anyone to pay let alone $10M per year.

Think of it like this...........you form a partnership.........everyone initially kicks in about the same..........but as the company grows you and some others kick in more $ and work harder to help it continue to grow and create more shared revenue...........but one dipsh*t just does nothing and still gets the same proportion of those increasing earnings. That would piss off anyone. That's what the issue is for The Pegs............keeping the other 97% of the partnership happy with them. Ralph at least had the argument that he was a founder and had done something to get the league where they are at.........The Pegs bought into this and knew what the expectations were.

That hiring was exasperating. I'm generally bemused by the Bills being Billsy but I was so angry that I kicked a wastebasket that I'm pretty sure would have been good from 50. What people forget is that so many fans loved all the close games that Jauron Ball created and the fanbase really bought into Jauron for 3 years because of it......................the same way they loved Jauron Ball 2.0 in 2017 with McDermott. The spirit of the game isn't to not make any sudden moves and just hope that your opponent makes enough errors that you can squeak out a win..........that kind of football just bastardizes the sport.

As I've said numerous times in this thread......TO lead the NFL in drops the year before he joined the Bills...........but you could always say that you disagree with what the NFL rules as "drops" so I guess you'll just have to remain a skeptic I guess.

Yep. Actual worst move ever was putting Disney style parking in Lot 1.............it was Hammer's Lot x 20 and really helped keep people coming to games when we were being treated to classics like Browns 6 Bills 3.

You know you aren't allowed to mention moves by present management. For chrissake they are 25-25 with a -123 point differential over three seasons............ingrates!

AB apologizes...........the snickers hole is fixing everything. The fact that Richie Incognito keeps getting chances............and I mean since all the way back in college even............I just gotta' think AB will be playing in the NFL again whether everyone likes it or not.

Meh I'd avoid drafting guards in round 2 like the plague..........there's a reason why you can usually get really good ones in UFA...........the impact difference between a Feliciano and a $12M guard is not that big. But you're also just assuming he beats out the competition at guard. I can see a scenario where he's a reserve. Pretty easily really..........they re-sign Spain or another guard thinking Ford will be the RT........and then Nsekhe or other just clearly play better in OTA's/camp. Something is not right with Ford........like he has a maturity/impulse control issue or something..........so I'm not even feeling as good about the pick now as I did last year.........and I thought he was a guard when they drafted him and was not impressed with the choice and process to acquire him then.

I've given McBeane a lot of credit for pivoting on some very bad decisions. That's why I say "probably". Your perspective might be a little cloudy on those 3 instances you listed. They traded(not cut) McCarron to keep the author of the worst QB'd half of football in modern NFL history in Nate Peterman. Coincidentally starting Peterman the year before had turned into a publicly embarrassing situation...........earning them league-wide scorn. That was a clear and totally unnecessary and ill-advised "double down" on a player. FORCED. And cutting Benjamin late in the season when he should have been cut two months earlier for his complete lack of effort was not an instance of pro-activism to take pride in...........that had the feel of loading the moving trucks in the middle of the night. So while they have pivoted quickly on some bad decisions..........some other more personally invested ones maybe not so well. I'd put Cody Ford's situation in the personally embarrassing group because of his costly mistakes in the WC game(while Metcalf was setting a rookie receiving record for yardage by a WR that same weekend). Ford isn't just any pick their lust for him was documented.

You can get to and win a SB and have a dynamic offense without a good RT. It's not an island position........you can often give strong side help in the form of a TE. I do think they want Ford to play RT and will probably force the issue...........Beane put all his cards on the table on day 2 of the draft with that "Bills Embedded" show where he was totally fixated on Ford as an OT.................so he'd look dumb passing on Metcalf and then moving Ford to guard.