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NFL.COM's top ten WR corps(Bills high on list)
BADOLBILZ replied to Stank_Nasty's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Yes the article and ranking are based on stats. They need him to get them the ball to put up the stats. -
Bryce Paup and Ted Washington..........in the same offseason..........that was unbelievable and those two signings totally transformed the identity of the team from offensive to defensive. Donahoe cutting Ted Washington was the key personnel loss that brought the Bills winning culture to instant ruin and cast them adrift with all the other rudderless franchises.
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NFL.COM's top ten WR corps(Bills high on list)
BADOLBILZ replied to Stank_Nasty's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Because Brady is diminished. His numbers look good because they are absolutely loaded to the gills with studs on offense but he is not talented enough any longer to take advantage of all that field stretching and big play talent they have. Bills situation is the opposite.........Allen is elevating his WR corps with a great season to this point. -
White was great but the 46 defense for a DE was like being a WR in the run and shoot.........the design produced numbers.......in that case sacks and TFL's........but at the risk of big plays. White also got sack-fat off of a lot of really poor right tackles while Bruce was playing against a lot of stud LT's. His finest moment as a pro was his 2 sacks against the lowly Max Lane...basically a guard playing out of position......in the Super Bowl. That was about the equivalent of when Bruce lined up against Everett McIver and Bruce Matthews at LT..........he put up 9 sacks and knocked Boomer Esiason out cold over those two games. When Reggie had to go up against Erik Williams of the Cowboys........the only real top-LT-quality comp at RT........he was obliterated...........he put up a no tackle, no sack game against him in the playoffs..........so he would have had his hands full against the league's better LT's like Richmond Webb and Bruce Armstrong in the AFC East. That's not to say White wasn't one of the best ever..........but the reality is that he also had every advantage a DE could ever ask for..........his circumstances permitted him to max out his production. Bruce played in a "read and react" 34 defense. He rushed the passer a fair share but that defense just wasn't designed to wreak havoc at the expense of the back end. When he finally got to play in a 4-3, he was already very old and washed up, but he immediately put up a 10 sack season. And while with Washington he was basically the only guy in the league who was giving Orlando Pace and Walter Jones fits in pass pro. Bruce is the all time sack leader but he was also the best, full sized defensive lineman pass rusher ever. There have been a lot of great pass rushers in the past 20 years but they haven't made one quite like him and his rare combination of size, speed, quickness, technique, power, long arms and that ground hugging bend since.
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Not top 15. Thielen is more like a top 30 WR.........he's in the mid 20's in receptions and yardage and around 50th in ypc. I think the goal posts wrt Diggs production shortfalls in Minnesota are on roller skates............it's either Cousins can't throw the deep ball to him or Cousins just throws the deep ball to him or Thielen gets the benefit of Diggs coverage yet when he leaves a rookie literally replicates his best production and out produces Thielen.............I think the reality is that Diggs was enigmatic in Minnesota. Love him, excellent player but I think if he gets $20M per we will always be left wanting him to be more like Julio Jones when he's much closer to Jarvis Landry on the performance spectrum.
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Diggs is currently leading the league in receptions and yards.........that's not "every category"........TD's, ypc, yards per game, catch %, drops........there are many more where he ranks lower or far lower. Because the Bills haven't had their bye yet Diggs has played more games than guys like DeAndre Hopkins and DK Metcalf who closely trail him in those categories but have higher per game production..........so while Diggs is having a great year he's not on pace to lead the league in those statistics. And keep in mind in Stefon Diggs previous best season(last year) he ranked 43rd in the NFL in receptions and 17th in yardage..........so nowhere near the top of the league. Not even remotely close. So what I am saying is if he is going to reach Reed's level.........and then exceed it relative to his peers.........then he is starting pretty late because he's never been as highly regarded as Reed was in his 7 year prime. There were a few seasons where it was pretty much between Reed and Rice as the two best in the NFL. Perhaps your memory fails you or you just don't know but Andre Reed was a legit great. Diggs has been a very good WR but if he is starting an 8 year run to exceed Reeds.........that will be an astonishing. That's your expectation........you are entitled to believe that.........but I think a lot of that is your lack of perspective on their two careers to this point.
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1) You are disagreeing with something I didn't say. Franchise altering moves to me are the kind of things that get stadiums built. That begins and ends with the QB. I could turn around and say "we disagree because I think Josh Allen was going to be good this year with or without Diggs" but that might be like a straw man argument or something. 2) They have bigger concerns........but regardless of how the fans *feel*....... lost WR production is not one of them..........Jefferson is on pace to exceed the production of Diggs best season(last year).
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They won't agree because Reed was widely regarded as one of the 3 best receivers in the entire NFL for 7 seasons from 1988-1994........and his chief competition was the GOAT. Diggs absolutely does not stack up like that against his peers.............he hasn't even gotten them to throw him a pro bowl nod yet........meanwhile his former running mate Thielen has two.
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I know you were really not that impressed at all with Jefferson and saw him as only a slot receiver going into the draft............I remember because I thought it was a bold take.........so I am not surprised that his explosive season hasn't yet changed that opinion. But wasn't Diggs that guy before his aberrant season last year? 3 years ago he averaged 10 ypc over the course of 100 catches........which from what I can find looks like the lowest ypc ever for a 1,000 yard wide receiver. Yes, lower than the most dink and dunkest 1,000 yard seasons of Welker or Edelman. So while I do strongly agree that a slot receiver type shouldn't be considered among the league's best "wide receivers".............I think the lack of high per play production is actually a knock on Diggs career as well. This will only be his 3rd 1,000 yard season in 6 because he's not been a lid lifter on the outside. The bar is much higher than that for the best WR's in the NFL.
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I like Diggs a lot but we will revisit those trade options when Diggs agrees to end his holdout for his new deal $18-22M per year, cap crushing deal next August. I had to stop at comparing Jefferson's $13.5M total contract value to Diggs $14.5M 2020 money because it's going WAY north of that very shortly.
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Oh I agree he has been a good addition and the outlook for the Bills franchise is very good because Josh Allen >>>>>>>>>Kirk Cousins. But yeah, Jefferson is proving to be one of the most impressive WR's in an amazing class of them.............as a rookie he is on pace for a better season than Diggs ever had in Minnesota.......and Jefferson will cost less over the 4 year term of his rookie deal than Diggs is costing the Bills just this season! That's what I am talking about. Not how much better Josh Allen is than what the Vikings have at QB.
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@GunnerBill and @thebandit27 do y'all remember me not wanting them Bills to draft DK Metcalf?
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Diggs is just 30th in receiving TD's and 51st in ypc though. And while he's having a great year........the Bills have also played 9 games........DK Metcalf is averaging almost 10 yards more per game more but the Rain City B*tch Pigeons have only played 8 games so far. Jefferson is getting love because of explosiveness and efficiency........which are areas where Diggs scores decidedly lower. Jefferson is 2nd in the NFL in ypc(18.4) and 15th in total receiving yards.......thru 8 games........ and has a significantly higher completion %(rec/tgs) than Diggs, who has had a lot of drops. Lotta' big # receivers this year so lotta' competition for accolades.
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Usually when trading disgruntled, highly paid vets one side appears to swindle the other initially.........then it turns out one-sided for at least one of the parties.......so gotta' disagree. If Beane had made the Vikings end of the deal the topic here would be "Great deal........or Best Deal Ever". We know this because that was the sentiment from many here after the Bills traded the Mahomes pick for a coupla' ones. Ultimately it's just a swap of good WR's.........nothing franchise altering.........no real loser in the trade but the outlook for Minnesota's end is brighter and a lot cheaper.
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Would you want to re-sign Isiah McKenzie?
BADOLBILZ replied to Royale with Cheese's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
No contract with guarantees........just basically another roster invite like he has been getting. Gotta' open up a roster spot for a deep threat to supplement and eventually replace John Brown. With Brown hobbled this year they have really lacked that 9 route specialist. Gabe Davis hopefully turns into a very good #2 WR but he doesn't have the deep speed to be that guy........they've tried and he can't get the CB off his hip. That deep guy doesn't have to be a #1 or #2 but preferably he is fast and at least over 6' and can track the deep ball. -
Josh Allen named AFC Offensive Player of the Week
BADOLBILZ replied to Big Turk's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Much deserved. Diggs has been a boost to Allen but he isn't exactly working with elite playmakers......there's no Tyreke Hill or Travis Kelce type on this roster. He's a big dude throwing to a lot of small targets and putting the ball in position for them to succeed......its been an amazing transformation. -
So.........the Vikings might not think they got their grapes squeezed by Beane? Preposterous!! Jefferson has a significantly higher yards per reception, completion percentage and of course less drops. Diggs has had the dropsies and while he has caught a lot of 20+ passes that is a bit of a misleading stat.......he hasn't been a deep threat like he was last year in Minnesota(which was the only year he was a big deep threat really). As good as Diggs is at what he does......getting open quick in short and intermediate routes........he really needs a field stretcher opposite him or he can be turned into a low ypc receiver.
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It's what I call "the DK double". Drafted Ford instead of DK Metcalf and Ford's disappointing play at RT pushed the non-tackle-versatile Teller down the depth chart........facilitating the trade. Consequences of reaching for need at a position of lesser value early in a draft.
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Falcons waive Takk McKinley (claimed by Raiders)
BADOLBILZ replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Diggs' trade is aging like a fine wine
BADOLBILZ replied to Inigo Montoya's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
That was just a $3.3M raise for THIS season for accepting the trade. He will be wanting......and likely getting a whole bunch of new and additionally guaranteed money on a new deal this winter.........or it will be a problem and/or a holdout. The funny thing is that there were fans that thought he was actually going to play on that old deal........that bargain contract didn't even survive the summer! -
Why didn't McDermott challenge the Davis TD?
BADOLBILZ replied to JerseyBills's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Yeah the squeaky wheel gets greased............there are some players who are too passive......hopefully that's not the case with Davis. It's not pretty looking to work the refs but by not indicating that he thought he scored it might have discouraged the Bills from checking the replay. That's two TD's he should have had the past two weeks..........he dropped that gimme against NE. -
Today he also compared Josh Allen to Warren Moon...................knowing Bills fans would react negatively to the Moon comparison since, of course, Moon choked away the Comeback Game for Houston.......but then Bomani could *suggest* that Bills fans were being racist when they came at him on social media. Classic WWF setup. But getting mad and responding to it is an unflattering look and there isn't anything to gain from it.........it only puts more $ in Bomani's contract.
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What were you doing in 1993?
BADOLBILZ replied to Royale with Cheese's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Small cars and big women are in style now though. -
Bomani exists on TV because he irritates thin-skinned white people with his overt racism because it gets people to watch to see what he says next. I just happened to catch him today with Foxworth and he was going on about how Brian Flores got the lowly Miami job because he's black.........while Matt Patricia got the plum gig in Detroit. Last I checked the Lions had won just one playoff game since 1957. It's entertainment.........especially THAT show........and Bomani makes a good heel.