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The draft was pretty casual then. Sometimes George Allen would trade the same pick to multiple teams and let them sort it out.

The funny thing is that the Patriots defense has been about as good against the Chiefs as any since Mahomes got there............and it's not the talent.........it's because they can alter their approach for their opponent. One of the problems the Bills ran into defensively last season is that they are in year 4 of running a defense that is not "multiple" like the Pats.........and after 4 years of running the same looks teams now know how the Bills are going to react to them defensively and have a good feel for how to attack them. The biggest improvement they could make defensively might be just adding different looks..........so that they don't just get dissected by the Chiefs the way the Patriots used to tear up the Steelers zone defense in the playoffs year after year. Offensively, spot on, they need real speed. That could be a guy who can provide RAC with his speed. They don't have that kinda' guy. Or.........my preferred route........is add a deep threat WR. If they really wanna' shake things up they should keep an eye on the Russell Wilson situation...........if the Seahawks trade Wilson(as Chris Mortenson insists that they still very well might) then I'd be on the horn with them about DK Metcalf. Seattle just gave Tyler Lockett a huge deal..........maybe in a great WR class they may be inclined re-start the clock on WR2........and be willing to move DKM for the Bills #1, #2 and a #5. You could substitute Davis for one of those picks as well. People might be surprised......but he's only 2 seasons from UFA. He is the counter to a Tyreek Hill. Rondale Moore and Kadarius Toney are relative half-measures in this arm race. Diggs + DKM matches Kelce + Hill.

Don't expect a quote from him.

Some people just gotta' argue about everything. It's both inaccurate and misleading. He was on the roster for two other NFL teams after the Cardinals......though he never took a regular season snap. And was then out of pro football entirely for 6 years. He never played in the USFL. He was an assistant coach who they held in reserve to play. It was just weirdly stated like he was an active player that jumped to the QB needy USFL.......again, he never played in an actual pro football game after 1975.

The way that reads it sounds like he had a 12+ year playing career.........in reality he never played pro football again after the 1975 season.

Here it is again: https://www.facebook.com/nflnetwork/videos/211552707232333/?t=8 It's a 26 second video.

1) Singletary is actually a solid starting RB.......prior to last season he was generally considered a top 20 starter(in some opinions considerably better) and his numbers are better than you think. Cutting him is a ridiculous suggestion and shows the overzealousness of some fans regarding his play. 2) How will adding another running back "open up the entire field"? And what makes you so sure that guys like Etienne or Harris fit that bill as "dynamic"? Clyde Edwards Helaire was just as good of a prospect and he was basically Devin Singletary 2.0 last year. The reality is that there isn't a lot of "real speed" at the RB position and with 230-260# defenders regularly proving to be faster than guys like Etienne and Harris I wonder why fans keep thinking they are going to scorch the earth in the NFL. The only 1st round RB's that have made a huge impact in the last 20 years were the "generational" talents that went top 10........and only about half of those had multiple elite seasons. Once you get into the range where Harris/Etienne would fall, mid-late in round 1, it's been one disappointment after the next.

I agree, so long as that OL projects as a future LT. And Eichenberg fits that bill. He would probably end up as the teams LT before his rookie deal ran out. Everyone assumes that Dawkins will just man the spot for 10 years without drop-off but every good LT isn't Jason Peters. If they get 6-7 good LT years out of Dawkins that would be great and then in steps a guy like Eichenberg who probably has the frame to hold the position down until about the same age at least. In the meantime Josh Allen has a lot of talent in front of him. Jenkins is a bit too Cody Ford-esque for me.......he's a better RT prospect but like Ford I don't think he has LT flexibility and he plays out of control at times and likes to tackle defenders and take unnecessary shots at them which exposes the team to killer penalties(like the critical personal foul that Ford drew in the Houston playoff game).

No, he was not. @Doc already tried to make up a stat like that. Per NFL's own Next Gen stats Josh Allen was 14th in deep ball accuracy with a 40.6 completion %. I provided a link a few posts ago about a segment NFL Network produced prior to the Colts game that showed the Colts defense allowed 50% of deep balls to be completed on them during the season but that Allen was not good on the deep ball. He is middling at it.........and that is despite the fact that he can throw a deep ball on a line so *some* of those throws are still in his wheelhouse. But the further you get downfield the easier that flat throws become to defend. When it comes to putting air under the ball and dropping it into a bucket like Brady and Wilson and Rodgers are so good at........there has been no telling where the ball will land when Allen lofts it over the defense. It's the next logical step in his progression but he was still scattershot on such throws last year and he declined to attempt some golden opportunities as well because of his inefficiency in that regard.

Yep........as do Butler, Zimmer and Obada.

Last year was different.......he improved greatly in general.........particularly in throws in the 21-30 yard range where he ranked #1 in completion % after finishing dead last in that category in 2019. And yet despite that and being the 4th most accurate overall passer.........per NFL Next Gen Stats he was only the 14th ranked in deep ball accuracy in 2020. https://www.facebook.com/nflnetwork/videos/211552707232333/?t=8 The link above was from prior to the Colts game. The Colts defense was very poor against the deep ball in 2020 and the storyline was predicting that Allen would not be able to take advantage of that because his deep passing #'s were much worse than the Colts allowed ON AVERAGE thru the season. They were right......he couldn't connect over the top that day. He ended up putting up a lot of crooked numbers overall and they eeked out a win........ but it was a struggle and he took a beating. Days like THAT are why he needs to be able to execute the deep ball like someone with both the strongest arm in the league and high level short-intermediate accuracy should. He may not get injured taking all of those extra hits but it will take its toll. I expect deep ball touch/timing/accuracy to be the big gain this offseason...........hopefully they have the personnel to maximize his improvement. So again, you are wrong in thinking it's not an area where he needs much improvement.

It's not an easy conversion but I am hoping we see more players try to make the move to football now that the salaries for good TE's are much improved. Canisius own Chris Manhertz has managed to be a 4 year active player in the NFL(plus his brief Bills tenure).........and there are much more impressive athletes than him in almost any major conference basketball game that also have no real shot at NBA money. Manhertz almost certainly made a lot more money in those 4 seasons than he'd have made if he somehow managed to have a good overseas hoops career(which was highly unlikely, IMO).

Well then shouldn't they be trying to fill that position? I get it, you feel harmed by my sarcasm so you are amongst a group who always like to jump into discussions just to be contrary.........I'm flattered, really..........but the entire point of this branch of the discussion is whether they need a deep threat option. So thanks for your support, I guess.

Wrong.......I did not ask for stats.......Doc made a statistical declaration.........that Allen was "8th in the NFL". He made up a stat to shout down a discussion..........much the same as you made up this narrative. I have a stat for you...........you have become the #1 most consistently wrong poster on this site. There really is no reason to be a truther about areas where the team or it's players can improve.

Again.........when it comes to key positions......LT being one of them........when you need them you REALLY need them. Desperately. Interior OL you can always patch up with free agents.

I like to say they are still a half dozen for a dime............but even the 1st round RB's for the past couple decades have been more miss than hit. The question is if your organization is comfortable turning over the position a lot. A guy like Jackson can probably give you some good football............he is a one-speed back though so it's probably not going to be a long tenure...........but how long do you expect to get out of guys like Etienne and Harris who have already put in around 800 touches in the past 3-4 years? Sometimes they arrive in the league already in decline nowadays. Not the same athletes playing the position anymore.

I am still waiting on the "he finished 8th in the NFL stat" you lead with.........8th in what? We all saw him overthrow or not put enough air under a significant amount of his deeper throws last year............the deep ball is not an easy throw to complete but he just made too many uncompetitive/uncatchable throws for someone with his ability. I expect he will clean it up..........I've compared it to a guy like LeBron entering the NBA with a jump shot weakness and he gradually turned it into a big strength and that took a ton wear and tear off his body over time. Allen getting a deep ball could do the same. If you followed Cover 1 last season Allen often pulled the ball down and ran for first downs when he had created plenty of time to square his feet and throw and knew his man had single coverage beaten deep. He knew that he could not trust his deep accuracy enough and instead ran the ball and took a hit to keep the chains moving. He has so much room for growth in that area and it could alter the trajectory of his career if he gains the kind of confidence that guys like Russell Wilson and Brady have in their ability to throw accurately over the top of defenses. Of course it helps to have huge target deep ball winners like DK Metcalf and Mike Evans and Gronk even. Josh has Diggs but he's a much smaller target and really is too good in short to intermediate routes to use too often deep.

Not much but that one clip of him catching that deep throw from Jimmy G for a TD versus KC was encouraging. He has the makings of a crowd favorite.............fans love players who are cheap and don't seem to have caught the breaks. If Breida stays healthy thru camp and plays well in the opener expect to be moderating an "extend Breida now" thread that Monday.

Every year some relative nobody RB(or multiple) that no draftnik was really too excited about comes into the NFL and produces like you'd hope your early rounder would. James Robinson for Jax was that guy last year..........everybody who hates drafting RB's early and was playing with mock drafts was at least occasionally throwing him into their 6th or 7th round.........never sooner........and he comes in and puts up numbers on a terrible team that you'd think only a player like that Najee Harris or Etienne could.

I don't really expect OL but we were in the "what would opposing DC's think about the Bills pick" realm of imagination. It's a relatively strong draft for OT and WR. Typically, positions of strength like that will lead to several instances in that draft where that position has the BPA when you pick. I could see them selecting an OL to compete for the RG position now and eventually be capable of succeeding Williams or Dawkins. Job 1 of this organization has to be to keep Josh Allen healthy and productive.........teams are going to want to load up on defensive pieces to pressure and disrupt Allen and his receivers.......the easiest way to counter a myriad of high quality additions to opposing defenses is to field an exceptional OL and continue to give him extra time to throw anyway.

Again........8th in what specifically? The intended air yard stat in the Mile High Report article doesn't mean much wrt deep ball touch, timing and accuracy. That average IAY number is 9 yards and Allen is as good as it gets at throwing passes 20-25 yards on a rope. When you can do that with the harder intermediate throws you are going to average 9 IAY. Throwing catchable deep balls has been the biggest weakness in his game.

8th in what specifically? Allen is great on 20-25 yard throws......maybe the best in the NFL.......his arm strength allows him to throw them on a rope, not requiring much touch. But putting air under actual deep throws of 40+ yards has been a weakness despite his great arm. I believe it was going to be a focus this offseason and that he was going to close up that weak link in his game. All the more reason to give him a target or two that can just blaze a 9 route past a teams #2 CB while Diggs works the short to intermediate. They don't have that guy.

Oh offseason fantasies that never translate to the field...... In reality those DC's are saying thanks for not picking a top quality OL who might actually improve their line of scrimmage deficiencies of 2020 and instead drafting yet another 4.5-4.6 speed runnin' back who is now so invested-in that you will feel inclined to take the ball out of Josh Allen's hands more often than you should.

I'm a fan of Sanders but not a fan of the "same-ness" of their WR corps. We all know that Allen isn't yet adept at deep accuracy/touch/timing but they had a greater need for a legit deep threat with either an extra gear to get an overthrown ball or a huge catch radius.......or preferably both. That would complement the existing talent so much better, IMO. More room for RAC and less contested throws underneath. Probably create more running room for the backs.

Again.......you are putting yourself in the shoes of Watson. Upwards of 40% of NFL players are evangelical christian...........and the majority of players are christians of one denomination or another. Watson isn't an atheist like Aaron Rodgers.........he's a guy who has gotten a good deal of mileage out of being a man of faith. Faith In Action award winner.........baptized in the River Jordan........I'm thinking maybe you aren't the same guys.