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Pro Day Results Tracker - Measurements and Athletic Testing
BADOLBILZ replied to H2o's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Yeah he's a physically imposing, true deep threat........sub 4.4 speed........big catch radius.......tracks the ball well and can catch the deep ball in stride without leaving his feet. Also a good blocker and can play X, Y or Z. I like him better than I liked Jefferson and he turned into the most productive WR from last years class. If they don't ever find that seam splitting TE they may eventually have to go big slot to make safeties respect the deep middle and Marshall could do that as well. -
This Just in - Good Analysis of Moss & Singletary in 2020
BADOLBILZ replied to Old Coot's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Breida was at his best in outside zone in SF. Late last season I thought both Singletary and Moss were approaching the LOS tentatively........anticipating the unblocked defender.......because of a lot of missed blocks over the course of the second half of the season. When Antonio Williams was plugged in during the Miami game he ran the play like it was drawn up and and got the results that you hope for. I don't really love OZ......as we saw last season you need to be pretty athletic on the OL to consistently block it up. The old Alex Gibbs OL's in Denver and Houston were pretty undersized and athletic. When pass blocking nowadays I really prefer the big bodies. But if your OL can block up OZ you can get great production from backs that don't really have "all" of the tools.........it's been proven many times over........if they have power or speed and are decisive they can produce. -
The receivers take a beating in this offense.........tons of short passes.......lot's of tacklers coming downhill at them.........it wasn't surprising that they were all pretty beat up come playoff time. They need a lot of receivers.........it's the "fastball" of their offense as McDermott says.
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1) CEH was only more productive because he had more carries. On a per carry basis their production was identical. After Williams opted out the Chiefs didn't have much depth at RB so they fed the 1st rounder until he got hurt. CEH had 181 carries and DS had 156........it's not like CEH was a 20 carry per game workhorse. The Bills had 3rd rounder Zach Moss to split the load........and he excelled on zone blocked runs(4.8 ypr) and in pass pro. The Chiefs did outbid the Bills for LeVeon Bell but he was mediocre in his limited chances. 2) Curtis Samuel was my top free agent target for reasons already given. That dude ran a 4.31 at the combine......not just some pro day #. That is elite speed and even in this great WR draft you are not likely to find a guy who can be an explosive RB, a dynamic slot and an excellent deep ball receiver. Will Fuller would have been a great complement as well. Kenny Golladay would have been great but he was the one great deep threat WR who was looking at a huge WR1 contract. There were some stud deep threat options available. 3) My issue isn't the signing.........it's the notion that Sanders is all they need or that it necessarily improves their starting lineup even. His skill set is redundant. They already have 2 starting WR who do the majority of their work in the short to intermediate range.........as well as McKenzie who is also just a short-range, slot WR, gadget type. Davis is a promising player but I think his rookie numbers were inflated by a bunch of blown coverages and being able to operate against lesser DB's because of the Bills spread.......much in the same way that Singletary's rookie numbers(which were amazing) were inflated by an inexplicably high % of his carries against 6 man boxes. I'm optimistic that they will invest a couple picks into the WR position in what may be the deepest WR class ever. It's far and away the deepest position in this draft.
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My favorite is when a ball bounces to him and he acts like he didn't know that was possible.
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1) Devin Singletary 4.4 ypc Clyde Edwards-Helaire 4.4 ypc I never said the Chiefs were terrible running the ball.........they were 16th in rushing yards and 1st in passing yards..........their offense was dominant because of the passing game. 2) Yes, I am saying that Hill is the most feared WR in the league. And Kelce is more than just better than any TE on the Bills roster............if I didn't know better I would say that was an attempt to downplay what he brings to the table.........like when the Bills were historically bad on offense in the first half of 2018 and McD would open up with "would we like to score 50 points per game?..... sure......". Shifting the goal posts from "we don't need another playmaker" to "well there was nobody to sign" is an eye roller. Will Fuller and Curtis Samuel come to mind IMMEDIATELY. Samuel can play slot, outside, RB all while bringing elite speed. Fuller is just an outstanding deep threat. But I don't mind the Sanders signing............anyone who followed the Patriots offense for years should know that the receiving targets take a beating with all the underneath throws and downhill tackles they take..........Edelman and Gronk were constantly getting clobbered.........the Bills WR corps was not surprisingly pretty beaten up by the AFCCG..........they probably should plan on having 7 playable WR's if the intend to run it back without a lot less 10/11 personnel.
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I don't agree with your assessment of the Chiefs. The Chiefs attack the entire field..........the weakest aspect is their running game. CEH was basically Devin Singletary 2.0 last year. Hill is the most feared receiver in the NFL.........Kelce is a great player who draws equal attention..........Hardman is an elite speed threat.......he tore the Bills up.........they are very different than the Bills.......much more big play ability. It's NOT because of the run game. Sanders is not going to add ANY of the aspects of Hill, Kelce or even Hardman. What he gives the Bills is something similar to what Watkins gave the Chiefs when healthy. The Bills still lack overall speed at the position and that "other" guy in the Hill/Kelce class.
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Who is the one player you DON’T want the Bills to draft @30
BADOLBILZ replied to NewEra's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
As someone who has spent a lot of time evaluating college players leading up to drafts for 30 years now..............my advice is prepare for the worst. I stopped investing in the Bills decisions on draft day when Donahoe selected Willis McGahee..........that was the last straw of idiotic, direction-less decisions.........I no longer hang on who the Bills gotta' select..........I try to never assume that the Bills see things like I do.......and when they do(which has been the case a lot lately) then I am pleasantly surprised. -
This Just in - Good Analysis of Moss & Singletary in 2020
BADOLBILZ replied to Old Coot's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
He has a chance because he is a one cut and go guy...........you don't really have to be elusive or patient in outside zone.........but you gotta' be decisive. -
That's where "on paper" offseason rationale doesn't match up with on field reality, IMO. They need to improve their running game but running 10 and 11 personnel from a spread offense with your QB in shotgun does not provide the natural structure and timing to scheme field stretching pass plays as easily. 12 personnel with Diggs and Beasley OR Sanders on the field is an invitation to squat on the rest of your passing game..........defenses might sweat Sanders and Beasley underneath..........but they will take their chances with those guys deep because that is not their game..........they are small catch radius guys who do not have that extra gear. Davis is a big catch radius guy but he's not fast.......nearly any CB2 is going to be able to turn and run with him in 12p. I like Sanders........if something happens to Diggs he and Allen can still probably bang out 3-4 of those 8 yard chain movers every game.........which would be a significant loss to their game otherwise. But I still think they need to add elite speed and or a big catch radius, sub 4.4 deep threat to balance the WR corps..........especially in the spread where you simply need to be faster to get the same field stretching results as you can scheme up in a power, under center, play action style offense.
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Lynch was one of a long line of barely 20 year olds the Bills drafted onto their rudderless ship in the Jauron-Gailey-Marrone era's and then seemed unable to understand what they were doing wrong. Marrone got it half right by getting rid of that turd SJ13..........but of course then they turned the WR room over to Watkins, Woods and Hogan without adding a veteran presence.
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Who is the one player you DON’T want the Bills to draft @30
BADOLBILZ replied to NewEra's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Rousseau is an unusual prospect.........I don't know if I would use the Cam Jordan comp, Jordan is a real powerful player..........what I think Rousseau did at a highly unusual level is tackle people that almost nobody else could have gotten their hands on. With that length and those 11" hands he doesn't have to be in very good position to get his hands on a ball carrier and when he does it's hard to get free from those mitts. What are "arm tackles" for some were "hand tackles" for Rousseau. I'm a Hurricane's fan and I've liked Rousseau more as a pro prospect than the more agile Phillips. I think Rousseau has a chance to be a stat monster and the Bills really need that kinda' guy who gets a lot of TFL and "coverage" sacks that aren't just the occasional vulture sack. His ability to snare QB's as they try to escape forward in the pocket is impressive........we really aren't used to seeing it done the way that he does it. I've seen the Pierre Paul comps but Rousseau is not that athletic...........and of course HIS hands are a huge plus to his game while JPP has one hand that's barely functional. -
Who is the one player you DON’T want the Bills to draft @30
BADOLBILZ replied to NewEra's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
The highlight of that segment was Rhett Lewis stating that "Josh Allen took a huge dump......err jump......in 2020". Fortunately for Daniel Jeremiah he didn't have to immediately respond because he was not composed at that point. -
This Just in - Good Analysis of Moss & Singletary in 2020
BADOLBILZ replied to Old Coot's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Synopsis: The Bills switched to more outside zone runs to simplify their line calls in the pass game last season..........Moss was more efficient in outside zone because he is more familiar with that style.........but that hurt Singletary because he excels in more of a power scheme. Key point........some advanced stats had Moss as the best pass blocking RB in the NFL. Singletary was OK but not as good. Singletary is the more explosive runner by a lot..........finishing 11th in the NFL in runs of 10 yards or more. My take: Breida is a natural fit in the outside zone........Singletary should improve in it and with almost all the same personnel returning they should be able to expand the playbook to include some more power runs that cater to Singletary..........but Moss probably ends up with the most snaps of the 3.- 32 replies
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That package might get you to #16..........then all you need are 3 more #1's and a couple #2's to get up to the Falcons pick.
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Nah. Also Etienne had a massive drop in production last year from 7.8 ypr down to 5.4 last season. Dude has a TON of mileage and has taken a beating at Clemson. The much maligned Devin Singletary has a 4.8 ypr on over 300 NFL carries...........which is actually tremendous.........the odds of either Etienne or Harris doing that on their first 300 totes are not good at all..........so if they draft one of those dudes be prepared to be underwhelmed.
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Here's your quote: "Diggs has been the most productive deep wr since he entered the league." Again, no he hasn't. He had a HUGE production year of big ypr in 2019........in a play-action heavy offense that is more scheme friendly for long throws. But he's also had two seasons where his ypr was a under 11.......which is very low. His 2018 season where he averaged just 10 yards per catch on 100 catches was a near historic season of nickel and dime grabs. He's a great WR........yes he can get deep.........but his bread and butter is short to intermediate throws which works well in a spread offense.........hence his low career ypr.
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I think you meant to say he's NOT been the most productive deep WR since he entered the league. He had one season where he barely averaged a Jarvis Landry-like 10 yards per catch on 100 catches. But he is capable of getting deep......as evidenced by 2019 in a drop back, play action-offense that lent itself to scheming up deep shots. But he is the best at short to intermediate routes and in a spread offense that is the best use of HIS talents.
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In the Arizona game one long completion won them a game...........it was a hail mary........but it was also a perfectly thrown ball and it was as well defensed as those players could........they just couldn't out jump a guy with an elite catch radius. The Bills offense took a big lead in that game and then went like 6 possessions in a row without a score.......allowing Arizona back into the game. On paper, one more score would have been the difference. In reality one more score may have been a dagger that halted Arizona's momentum and it may never have been a close game. In the first Chiefs game they were inches away from Zimmer's forced fumble counting and the Bills having the ball late down one score. The Pats were just yards away from beating the Bills in Buffalo when Zimmer forced a fumble. Games obviously are frequently enough decided by one play that this shouldn't be a point of contention.........playing it off like having 5-6 more huge pass plays in a season is insignificant is a case of someone REALLY being too far removed from the actual season to remember how slim the margin for error can be.
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No it would be huge just in terms of putting it on film and buying respect from defenses. As I said........defenses adjusted to the Bills lack of deep ball proficiency in the playoffs and the Bills couldn't respond. People can point to the wind being the issue with the deep ball in the Ravens game.....but the Ravens challenged the Bills to throw deep in 2019 as well.........the book is there for a good defense. The Colts were the worst team in the NFL at defending the deep ball...........but because the Bills couldn't push the ball on a beautiful windless day they really labored against them and Allen took a beating keeping the chains moving. It's an important element where they were lacking. Much of it is Allen getting the touch/timing down..........but adding a deep threat with an extra gear and/or a huge catch radius would help.
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I hope you are wrong and he proves to be a solid LG.........but I can also pretty easily envision that scenario..........he certainly wasn't the prospect Beane thought he was getting. Being that most OL coaches will say that few OL players are any good before they've had 3 years in the league maybe now Ford is ready to take a big step.........but it's hard for me to ever justify drafting an OL early who isn't equipped to handle the LT position. If you draft a RT only, guard or center early they need to start playing at a high level immediately to justify the investment. They are positions that can otherwise be manned proficiently by modestly paid UFA.
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When the lead is that he's young for the amount of years he has in the league.........you know there is a problem. They've also "cottoned on" to the reality that you can challenge him with throws into reasonably good coverage because his ball skills and ball awareness are not good.
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The numbers are in the links you provided that you didn't even actually read. As for the drops I do not know............what I do know is that the further you get from the LOS the harder it gets to complete flat throws........that's why the out-pass is considered such a critical test of arm strength..........and when Allen tried to put air under the deeper passesl he threw too many uncatchable balls and when he did not the ball was often more difficult to catch as a result. It literally was for the Cardinals.