BADOLBILZ

He may be finally reaching his potential. He's been better in his career than some give him credit for but his potential has always been to be a poor man's Aaron Donald. He's never been that. Even in those two big Thanksgiving games he had you couldn't say he was the difference in the game. Sunday night he was. They were hanging on for dear life defensively and those TFL's, the sack and the forced fumble made it just possible for the offense work the body on the Ravens and then turn the tables in the 4th. If that becomes an every week thing he could become that difference maker they've lacked and really elevate the Bills roster a notch. I'm not holding my breath on that until he strings a long stretch of great play together and manages to stay healthy......but I think we are seeing some players reach the intersection of know how and can do. Even Josh Allen looks significantly more in command of the game than a year ago this time.

Basically the Bills offense just exhausted the Ravens defense with small gains and clock control and by the 4th quarter it became exponentially easier for the Bills WR's to get open. IMO the Bills WR corps is still the weakest part of the team. If the offense can roll up nearly 80 offensive plays and 35-40 minutes time of possession every week like they just did against the Ravens the WR have the potential to look a lot better in those last 20 or so plays. I mean, give me the front 7 equivalent to the dominant impact that Josh Allen has for these receivers and Taylor Rapp, Cole Bishop and Damar Hamlin would look like world beaters. They are closer to the norm than the WR corps. That said.....I am bullish on Keon. I've said all along that he has the physical talent to reach Davante Adams level. He went into the offseason needing to show the focus, work ethic and want-to to be great. He seems to be doing that. The next and most important step is exhibiting the intelligence to become a great technician so he doesn't have to be schemed open against quicker/faster CB's. That's the hardest part. And when you have a truly great QB like Coleman has with Allen.........like Adams had with Rodgers.........that can create a ton of momentum. He should be able to see that the full commitment should yield maximum results.

The kicking team was ready after the first timeout. They were all gathered along the sideline ready to go on. Didn't help Deone Walker much as he blew his blocking assignment on the kick.......but they were ready. I would think he won't be on that team next week after giving Hamilton a free run at that kick.

I have nothing against stay-at-home-fans like yourself but like McDermott says.........know your role. You have no business talking sh!t about the fans who pay the Bills while you are farting into your couch in California on game days. Lead, follow or shaddup.

Just in general, you should learn to say less about fans. Complaining about the people who have made it possible for Buffalo to have Bills seems to be a habit with you.

I am the 1% of 1% of Bills fans who participate in the game..........I literally never take a play off from making as much noise as I can when the Bills are on defense or in a kick block situation...........but I disagree wholeheartedly with your take. The reality is that it's a long season and some people already had to take off work at least part of next Thursday and Friday for the Dolphins night game. The defense was making business decisions most of the night so you can't expect anything different from the fans who have responsibilities to be mindful of. It's not news that the group of hardcore fans......those who do whatever it takes to be there and support the team.......would fill less than half of the stadium. It's unlikely that any NFL fan base has anymore than that. And if you know enough, the stadium is plenty loud when it's just the die-hards left. Most of the people who left don't make any noise anyway.

Yep, he 100% tapped out on the 2024 season when he decided the toe sprain was going to be too much for him to play with in 2024 and possibly all the way until recently. I didn't say he "quit". That's where you've lied again. Just like you probably lied about knowing he was a standout in camp last year. Saying he just quit implies that no compelling reason was given as to why he couldn't continue. He offered a compelling reason. But he still tapped out. The question is if anyone in the NFL believes anything he says and if any of it is even worth answering his phone call after what he's BEEN. A non-factor for the last 3 years. You think teams should believe in him and give him a 4th chance or whatever he's on. You also believed him when he said he had a good camp......which wasn't true. I guess we could debate the definition of gullible next.

Josh Allen is the most O-Line friendly QB in the league. Even Mahomes and Lamar leave their O-lines more exposed to negative statistical outcomes. The Bills have very good tackles.......average-ish guards.......and a solid center. No elite performers. Allen, a commitment to the run game and the frequent use of a 6th OL make them perform at an elite level though.

Show me where I said Claypool quit on the Bills? He missed the entire season with an injury they called day-to-day until they abruptly IR'd him. You've misremembered something again and this time you could have just referenced it directly from this thread. He quit on the Bears. https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/chase-claypool-reveals-the-stupid-reason-he-basically-quit-in-chicago/ He was a malcontent "at best" in Pittsburgh. It got much worse in Chicago. And he then ended the Dolphins season with what sure looked like a no-f#cks given effort as @GunnerBill mentioned. This dude's career went south in the aftermath of that Steelers loss in Minnesota on November 27, 2021. That was a LONG time ago.

Oh so you are going to avoid your false claim that he was having an "outstanding camp"? 😂 OTA's. 😂

A lot of people have responded to this thread not reading the part where Barnwell explained that he adds more weight to the WR position than others. Which is how it should be. Of these 3 skill positions WR's are more able to impact the game individually. That's why they are the only one's who get paid premium level pay. And even then it's really just the boundary receivers who get that money.

As with MOST player criticism, the criticism is ultimately directed at the people who selected or paid or kept playing that player when they failed etc.. He was a reach for need. Day 3 talent but they needed a body at NT so Nix very carelessly used a borderline premium pick on him. Even though the pick of an under-sized NT was likely to look incredibly stupid regardless in an NFL landscape where good NT's were signing 1 year $4M type FA deals. Unburdened by the need to be proven right, the Bills then spoke in hushed tones about how good he would have been. He became a mythical beast. Hence, the nickname associated with the draft pick.

What reality is that? He was literally injured early in the first morning practice of camp. He missed the rest of the day. The toe injury "reportedly" happened just a few practices later, though it likely is what happened in that first practice. He didn't have an outstanding camp. He was on the sideline nursing an injury the team listed as "day to day" for 3 weeks then he got IR'd on August 16.

Injuries most definitely aren't why he went from being dealt for a high second round pick in 2022 to being a street free agent reaching for a life-line in the span of about 15 months. Very little injury in his NFL history really. He was a head-case in 2022 but should have lost any benefit of the doubt when he ghosted the Bears in-season in 2023. That was crazy. Typically only see something like that when a player is about to appear in a string of arrest/lawsuit stories. The Dolphins gave him another shot and he just went thru the motions. Only months later the Bills pick him up and fans expect him to be someone entirely different.

Again, the big issue with Dalton Kincaid was just that he was HORRENDOUS in the playoffs. Yeah he hasn't played up to expectations but his regular season play was pretty innocuous. They barely needed him in the regular season. I keep hearing the sob stories about his knee injuries.......well he must have been playing with two sprained hands in the playoffs because the issue wasn't his running it was that he couldn't catch the damn ball.

Yeah Hailee already had a better place. I guess Josh is an Encino man now. They will probably upgrade on that too.

There is always a risk when you put someone who isn't all-about-it in a locker room of a team whose goal is to be the best. He has shown he doesn't love football. He basically refused to play in Chicago. And has shown he didn't stand on business either. The way he let his career go when he was on the precipice of getting paid tens of millions of dollars by simply producing something resembling what he was in his first couple seasons to do it......is crazy. Players kinda' HAVE to be one or both of those things to endure in the NFL. IMO this is just a guy who is facing an identity crisis. He doesn't love the game but doesn't know what else to do. I think when ***** starts getting difficult he will tap-out again just like he did last year.

Glover was pretty awesome for a long time. At one time he was the best pass rushing DT in the NFL. 2000 NFC defensive player of the year. Member of the 2000's NFL all decade team. Teller had a very nice couple years but has been in decline. I don't think that one is particularly close but Teller was definitely one of Beane's day 3 HR's.

Yeah if Paup hadn't suffered that severe groin injury he would probably have put up several more seasons like his first in Buffalo. That takes me back to Butler passing on Jason Taylor in 1997. That would have been a great transition from Paup because after the injury Bryce was never the same.

Eh.....maybe but he ate up massive amounts of credibility by being a massive head case in the prior 2 NFL seasons. It was surprising the Bills gave him a shot. I don't think people like McBeane understand self-defeating personality disorders like Claypool clearly has because you rarely see people with issues like that reach the NFL. Being extraordinarily big and fast got him a long way but once he started getting criticized for his behavior on the field he decided he was going to withhold commitment to the game and that f#cked his career but good.

People most remember Thurman in the playoffs for losing his helmet in SB XXVI. Random fans were still making jokes about that 20+ years later. Not so much the big games in the XXV or the Chiefs AFCCG or even the crippling fumble and his pouting on the bench in SB XXVIII. His last 3 SB's he rushed 37 times for a pitiful 69 yards and had 4 fumbles. Brutal. The OL didn't show up for those games either and that kinda' illustrates my point about RB's.

Urb is a middle name. Honest is the first name.

Yeah I will also admit to having a bias against RB numbers because they are SO reliant on those around them. I was talking about "premium" positions on TSW when the idea really hadn't been established in the NFL vocabulary yet. It's obvious that edge/island positions are more able to impact games with one-on-one dominance and those stats generally reflect more "individual" impact than those accumulated by a RB who needs so many things around them to go right to be great. See 2023 Giants Saquon versus 2024 Eagles Saquon. DE is a premium position. Strahan is the 10th leading sacker all-time. Thomas is the 16th leading rusher. In the postseason Strahan played better than he did in the regular season. Thurman in the playoffs was about the same player he was on any given Sunday, statistically. He had the great SB XXV and the awful XXVIII.

Yeah Revis over Kelly I don't agree with. The rest on your list I all consider no contest wins over the Bills option. Even Strahan over Thurman. Strahan set the single season sack record. Thurman never did anything like that. And I just can't give the nod to Tasker over an every down stud like Trey Smith. Tasker was more fun to watch, I will give him that. Peyton Manning over Bruce and OJ.........I can get with that logic in that what really made them great was their bulk numbers. Manning won a couple of SB's but he was only a good player in the NFL for one of those so it's largely a battle of 3 of the greatest stat accumulators in NFL history.

Yeah Moulds quit on the team in a game in Miami in 2005 because Lee Evans was getting the ball and not him. It was craziness and they ended up blowing a sizable lead with Moulds refusing to re-enter the game in the second half. That was the beginning of the end of his complicated career in Buffalo. He was a real screwball. Speaking of "balls" here is @eball throwing hate at ol' Mouldsy for demanding/forcing a trade out of Buffalo