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Had some really great wings at Bar Bill North couple days ago. Never not had wings at a Bar Bill that weren't better than the best I had at Duff's.

Well, I mean they don't want to lose any commitments from Manny's top 60 rated recruiting class, right?. Manny already lost basically his whole offensive staff to SMU and he's his own DC.........they could just hang up fliers at Publix and recruit better than Manny at this point..........so basically they just haven't gotten around to making that one phone call.

Yeah @BUFFALOBART was at that one as well.

Hopefully most of the fans will be wrapped up like they are planning to be driving a snowmobile all night so the cold doesn't get to them...........but if it gets that windy people will be heading to the exits. You won't even be able to even keep your eyes open to watch the game without goggles on at 60 mph. Even the lower end prediction for in the 20's in mph for winds is worse than the Bills/Ravens playoff game last year..........and that was a windy GD game.

Later in the calendar year of 1994 the Bills played the dome team Vikings on a lousy weather day after a big snow storm and the Vikes whipped the Bills and busted Kelly's knee........which effectively knocked the Bills out of the playoffs because Reich was brutal in relief the rest of the season. But, you know that team had such a HUGE home field advantage.......right?..........especially over a sissy dome team. (and everyone only remembers Reich as a great backup instead of the bum that he was that season). To add insult to literal injury in that Vikings loss........there was nearly 4 inches of water and slush in the parking lots because they decided to just salt the lots instead of plow them. Yeah that was the day I found out that when people get hypothermia one of the signs is an inability to communicate. We thought Ted was just not speaking to us because we had made fun of him for not dressing heavily enough. Yay for bad weather!

If you mean doesn't rain or bitter cold combined with high winds usually just level the playing field for the lesser opponent?.........which the Bills too often have been in the 2000's........then yes it's been an advantage. People reflect fondly on the 2017 snow game because the Bills won.........what they don't recall is that the weather made it possible for a terrible 3-10 Colts team to almost beat the playoff contending Bills at home. And tell any Bills fan that drove to Cleveland to watch the "in the hunt" Bills lose 8-0 in a blizzard about the weather not affecting team performance. More often than not bad weather just cheats the fans out of a good football performance. We've seen a whole lotta' bad football on bad weather days in Buffalo. It's not a good thing for anyone involved.

Yeah I think the vehement defenders of Star's decision making over the past couple seasons have gotten a high decibel wake-up call this past month.

Coming into this game there is a lot of hyperbole in the media about how bad the Bills run the football and defend against the run........and how great the Pats run it and play defense. The numbers don't really support these positions.

It's not "we". It's you and some others who clearly didn't understand the value of having a winning culture and excellent coaching. Which made no sense to me because the same people who thought Belichick was done fielding competitive teams were the same people who "trusted the process" in Buffalo. You may be too young to remember the 1990's Bills teams but as talented as they often were.........many of their wins......especially after the first couple of SB seasons.........were in great part just due to supreme confidence in their organization + opponents lack of confidence that they could beat the winning-culture Bills. That's how you go to the playoffs 10 times in 12 years. The Patriots have just taken it to a greater level.

My family in Mass and RI would very much disagree with this statement. But in fairness........Boston has only been a baseball town since the mid-1960's. Now that they've won some WS titles maybe that scratched an itch they had but as a Yankees fan there is nothing more satisfying than hearing "Yankees suck" chanted at EVERY Red Sox gathering. Nobody is in the head of a fanbase like that.......even when they've gotten the better of the Yanks for past 20 years. And as a Bills fan it really tells me that the Pats are still A LONG way from causing that much anxiety to the fan base. As for the younger crowds just playing "other sports".........I think that is a mis-perception. Prior to the pandemic, enrollment in organized youth baseball was exploding nationally for the prior 5 years. And the programs in New England in particular have become huge. Right now, kids just aren't playing sports at all. HS sports programs are having a hard time competing with high paying part time jobs because so many adults have refused to return to work. Football is being hit the hardest. Rival schools are having to merge football programs just to field teams. So football is definitely not one of the "other sports".

It's gonna be nice out........just put on your big boy knee pads and walk.

61 mph? Pfft......that's not even hurricane force (74 mph or higher). But everyone loves watching a "wind" game!

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People love to watch football games. The rest of your post is irrelevant to football's popularity. Put a dome on it and then instead of looking back fondly on an occasional fun/bad football game played in weather conditions that altered the outcome............maybe you can look back on many more games where your elite QB carved up opposing defenses in a climate controlled conditions in front of his home crowd............while at the same time allowing the team to compete on a more level playing field financially and for player acquisition and retention. You need to watch pro football in the snow? Watch the CFL playoffs. Hamilton is one win away from reaching the Grey Cup and the game is being hosted in Hamilton this year. Never gonna' be a dome over Tim Horton's Field.

Here's a helpful message board hint......read the posts prior to the one's you respond to.......you'll have context that way. The argument that was made was that the stadium was just a big TV set because TV money is all that matters..........and tv viewers want to watch teams play outdoors. That's not the case.........people don't watch football on tv to see what the outdoors looks like from the comfort of their couch. A window will suffice for that. The SEC is popular because it's good football. Obviously.

Same as a GoFundMe for the entire stadium. Zero. We already assume we will be paying for PSL's etc.. I know the age demographic of this site really thinks that everything 5-10 years from now will look like it does right here and now..........but the way sports entertainment and gambling are going there will likely be a significant financial advantage to getting fans into the game early or getting them to stay later afterward. I can easily see a future where the tickets themselves are only half of the revenue(or less) that a team earns inside the stadium on a game day. Beyond competitive advantages like noise and being able to recruit or retain talent easier........putting a roof on it would just show some actual foresight.

Yeah it ain't cheap at all if you gotta' take 2 days off of work or use vacation time. Better off paying the going rate for a Sunday game in Foxboro. I don't expect many Pats fans. A Sunday would be a lot easier.........but by the same token there wouldn't be quite as many cheap tickets available. Wasn't a big contingent of Pats fans at the 2019 game either.

You'd be very wrong. College and pro football dominate tv ratings like nothing else. None of those ratings are predicated on playing "outdoors" LOFL.

I don't think there will be many Pats fans. I don't see people driving to Buffalo from Mass area with the impending stormy weather. Gillette tickets might be expensive but so is driving 600 miles round trip, getting a room for a night or two etc.. Might be different with a 1pm game.

Well the stadium audience isn't 65,000 who "went to a game once". Season ticket holders often end up attending hundreds of games in OP. Stifling hot September games........then pouring rain and high wind games in fall.........then windy and bitter cold meaningless late season games are fine when they are all a novelty...........not so much when you've sat thru a few dozen of them. It's cute that there are still people who think that the NFL draws tv ratings because of snow games though. That must be why SEC football is so popular. People watch the games to see football. Bad weather games are only interesting as an occasional substitute for well played football.

Taylor Heinicke was one of those backups and he's won 3 straight games right now and looks like an NFL starter. And Trevor Lawrence was a starter but managed only 9 points. Roethlisberger is starter quality in name only. And yes, they would have still beaten Houston with their starter Tyrod and the Jets with Zach Wilson. You make it sound like the quality of the QB has been a significant issue. One of the starting QB's they beat is the most valuable asset in the entire NFL.....Patrick Mahomes. The Bills have simply been as inconsistent as they possibly could be. It's not been about the QB's.

reminds me of CP10

The Bills were clearly not actually expecting to play with a target on their back like they have. Their schedule looked like a lot of teams that might just roll over.......like some did late in 2020. But when you are a SB favorite every team looks at beating you like a chance to garner attention, if nothing else. And with 14 playoff teams and 17 games.......more teams feel like they are in it. Look at Miami......that extra game on the schedule gives them added optimism that they can get out of the hole they dug.

I have no problem with fans being critical of the team's play in-game or post victory. But trying to judge every game based on whether the team played well enough to win a SB that day is not realistic. Look at the two teams that reached the SB last year...........Tampa was 7-5 at one time.......lost their division to the Saints who blew them out twice..........and the Chiefs slept walked thru the season playing down to their opponents for most of the last two months of the season. I'm not making excuses for the team.......the bad losses might come back to haunt them........but that's also not a given.

That's all kind of "on paper" talk, IMO. Comparing the effort or personnel that it took to sweep them last year versus what it would take this year doesn't hold a lot of relevance to me at this point of the season.