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Unlikely that your mind will be changed. He was a rare center talent, IMO. But I don't think you need a center that needs to be drafted that early and later paid premium money long term though.............it's not 1970's-1980's football where you can just put a line together and keep it that way for 10 years. Using a premium pick on a position you can otherwise fill cheaply but still effectively is not a great formula for long term success. The Chiefs themselves let Rodney Hudson go and plugged in Mitch Morse and then let him go etc..

Agree completely. I was praying they wouldn't take Basham in round 1...........in round 2 I still didn't like it because of the age factor...........but it does meet the "high dollar position" threshold for an early pick if he develops into a pass rusher.

Rousseau tied for the NFL lead in run stops this year..............he was incredibly productive in run defense. And I don't know if Basham is "way better" than Shaq...........that wouldn't be a big accomplishment but he's also a 24 year old rookie so a lot of teams wondered if he was sorta' maxed out..........it wouldn't be surprising if he was a little better prepared physically for the grind of a first NFL season than Rousseau but that hasn't been how the staff has seen it.

Points deducted for his dad changing the sons last names from Brown to "Saint Brown"...........he is the Lavar Ball of football dad's.

Those are definitely the thoughts of a feeble mind.

I will take you guys word for it because I didn't see how he got injured........and I know this is not great for player safety...........but I know that sometimes players fake a different injury when they get concussed because there is no protocol for muscle and joint injuries so they want people to think that it's something else until after they get checked in the tent. Sometimes you get a concussion and moments later you feel totally fine.........maybe better even.........then the effects kick in later when the brain swells.

Just like I have been badly wanting to play the Patriots in the WC round for the past month +..............I badly want to play the Chiefs next week. The potential for Bills fan revenge/safisfaction in this postseason is just immense..............it's not every postseason you can get the team that's been dominating you for two decades...........and the team that beat you in the AFCCG last year(and in the AFL champ in SB year one for the older fans)...........a team in TN that beat your team with the most ridiculous(and BS) play in playoff history and also had a pivotal, epic game against earlier in the season............and then maybe Brady or Dallas in the SB. I'll take it any way we get it but I don't want Cinci in round 2...........some potential for a let down emotionally..........I want feuds. I'll take Cinci at home in the AFCCG though........they are the only other team to beat the Bills in an AFCCG.

I didn't hear.........was it definitely a shoulder? He looked disoriented and stumbled badly when he finally got up, not sure if that was televised, I thought he was concussed.

To me it felt like the beat down the Bills gave Shula in his last game..........which was also the last home playoff game we won with a full house of fans. This Pats team was built on a huge free agent class just like that Dolphins team. Hope Belichick and Kraft have a falling out and he goes to NYG so this is the lasting memory.

It would have been just as epic either way.........just maybe louder. But this was, IMO the second best weather game of the entire season next to the Washington game........sunny in the afternoon........clear and beautiful at night. Anyone can dress for dry, cold, no precipitation, no wind............can't really get comfortable in the heat of the preseason game or the wet, windy sh*t we had all year. Gotta' schedule all Bills playoff games with a mostly full moon.

They just match up TERRIBLY against Allen when the Bills spread them out and he takes the short passes.........and even worse when he scrambles.........their LB's are far too slow. Their current D would have matched up better with the 2020 Bills.........and this offense is notably different...........they have really set up the deep ball with short passes and runs..........last year they were attacking intermediate and deeper routes all game long and Allen was less in control of the game from the pocket and was still dabbling with putting air under the ball...........recently he's looking like a 10 year vet in the pocket and everything he throws is lazers.

Great experience.........one of the top 5 home games in Bills history. I just got home, waiting for nyquil to kick in. Cold was no problem if decently prepared. Wore no cover on my face and didn't need to. Spectacular, crisp, full-moon night. No wind, no problem. Put vaseline on feet, one pair normal socks, one pair insulated, hot hands toe warmers on each side........4 pairs long underwear and snow pants.......several undershirts, a hoodie, Bills T shirt over hoodie and open winter jacked and a winter hat and light mittens. Hoods down. It wasn't bad at all and I consumed no alcohol so no nerve blocks. Never felt cold except for a few minutes where the ice cold concrete(as @MattM mentioned) got into the cheap slide-on $20 snow boots I picked up yesterday at Wal Mart but I just stood with one heal off the ground back and forth for about 10 minutes and the warmers got my feet toasty again. I forgot the cardboard I intended to bring in for the concrete. Got to gate at 8:01...........line was long but fast.........got to seat about 2 minutes before kickoff. Got to tailgate at 3:45........our group set up 6 tents and tarped 3 sides and we had a 220K btu salamander so the tailgate was about 55 degrees per thermometer under the tent but lot's of us just mingled around the open yard and we had a good burn barrel going to(the lot was pretty full and people were clearly tailgating much earlier than us on the drive in to OP)...........about 25-30 people at our own tailgate..........burgers, dogs, pulled pork, garlic salt potatoes, meatballs, Pizza Oven(Lockport) pizza and Paula's donuts and hot Tim Horton's coffee and hot chocolate.........had first game on the antenna............it was a great tailgate........finally no wind or rain. Second tailgate lasted til about 1:30 am..........got home about 3.

I live next to a lake and the ice is expanding so fast it sounds like distant fireworks or high tension wires snapping...........it's getting real out there.

Have fun chunkin' wood birthday boy.......

I am planning a pop-up Waffle House behind Hammer's for postgame..........menu depends on what's left over on the grill............but still the same $8 for a shot glass of orange juice.

As a fellow Miami Hurricane fan I hate to do this to you..........but that was weird.

He seemed physically fine. Then he got up and walked back normally to the vehicle. It was just like he was ignoring everyone. He was a cold zombie.

One of the guys that was with us showed up in jeans, sneakers and a wind breaker. About midway thru the 3rd quarter he became unresponsive despite seeming to be alert and still watching the action. At the end he got up and silently walked to the car and sat in the back seat just staring forward into space and not answering anyone. We later found out that this is something that happens to a lot of people before they freeze to death. So keep an eye out for that folks. The same thing happened to one of the players on the Raiders sideline.........they just piled coats on him and left him there not knowing why he wasn't answering them. Since that time there have been a lot of advancements..........the clothing tech is MUCH better, the hand and foot warmers that you put in your shoes and gloves work a lot better and are still cheap and automobiles operate a lot better in the cold.................shouldn't be nearly as dangerous but still there will be some who suffer and hopefully nothing tragic happens.

Exactly. It's the right move for the Texans. Culley wasn't the future and the next HC now has a chance to actually come in and not have HIS process undermined by a dreadful first year. I said it at the time...........Dick Jauron did a great job changing the culture in Buffalo in his first year...........they went from a sloppy, rudderless, penalty-prone mess under Mularkey to a keep-it-simple and execute team under Jauron.........which was THE PERFECT TIME to make a change.

Crazy circumstances too........the Bills were in line to be the #1 seed with a bye, they just needed to beat Houston in the finale..........but were blown out 27-3 Sunday December 27th by that Oilers team that knocked the Bills into an unexpected January 3rd WC game.........add in that Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas were both injured in that game and knocked out of the WC round and Cornelius Bennett was also sidelined. So a crazy let down and turn of events and they had just 4 days to manually sell about 40K tickets for an unexpected game for a seemingly terrible matchup.........which meant people getting in crazy lines around the stadium in the cold. Only a cluster of epic proportions like that lead to that not being sold out in time to not be blacked out. Bills gave up 62 points to the Oilers without scoring a TD over those 6 quarters of football.

Not sure about giving long term deals to guys like Gallup and Godwin who both tore ACL's in the last month or so............and I don't think either is taking a one year deal to come to Buffalo to be the second or third WR option while playing 8 games in the wind tunnel at Orchard Park.

I've quoted the ESPN article the other day in other threads about the best players of the year at any position where they gave Rousseau the nod as the best rookie edge/DE..........but they also noted that Basham finished second in pressure rate per snap among rookies(Rousseau ranked third). PFF data of course so some will highly discount it.......but it's interesting at least and reflects that while Rousseau and Basham weren't overwhelming hits as rookies.........they seem to have scored extremely highly versus their peers, including many players picked ahead of both of them.

You should be good with the battery powered socks..........they will run the metal wand over your shoes/boots and assume it's the grommets on the shoes/boots tripping the alarm. @Captain Caveman I'd suggest loosening your boots and sliding them in there. If they find metal on you above the shoes they are likely to get pinched.

We will have to agree to disagree.........they had the 22nd pick in their pocket..........the 21, 22 and the picks dealt to Tampa gets them to #7 overall most years and they still had more value to deal from. My point about the rest of the draft has as much or more validity as the concept that they didn't have enough ammo to move up......even if just in the context of using 2018 picks only. They used their savings on a lesser MLB(so far) than Darius Leonard or Fred Warner.......what are the odds of 2 All Pro MLB's being picked after the second one came off the board in a draft(it's likely never happened before and Roquan Smith is better than Edmunds too)..........and the chaos caused by the atrocious state of the Glenn-less 2018 OL likely impacted the evaluation of Teller........their 5th round pick in that 2018 draft. So while the Allen pick was a HR or HR's.......aided by several extremely dumb, shortsighted decisions in the 6 picks in front of them.........how they utilized the savings and the subsequent OL performance in 2018 were factors in lowering the potential value of that draft. Imagine netting an MVP candidate and 2 other All Pro players(say, Warner, who the Bills were high on, and Teller) out of one draft..........they were thisclose to that. I am a big fan of Beane's 1st round work in general...........since 1990 there has never been a situation where I was pleased with any 2 consecutive 1st round picks by any Bills GM at the time...........and I've really liked all of his........excellent work, IMO. His second round work has been consistent with every other Bills GM..........the only time they seem to nail round 2 is when they don't have a pick in round 1.........which I think is because they get carried away drafting for need when it's much too early to start doing that.

This feels like deja vu.............didn't he get robbed of his gear before in recent years and somehow they got it back?