BADOLBILZ

So you are saying that Peters couldn't have helped the Bills win over the next 14 years? That argument makes no sense. He is literally still playing and the Bills have had 5 winning seasons in that span and hovered around .500 in others. Despite being lead by the bumbling Buddy/Chan combo the league parity system positioned them roster-wise to be a perennial wildcard contender beginning when Marrone arrived........the roster didn't just start getting competitive in 2020. And yes the Eagles won the SB with what was, at the time, probably the most talented and best conditioned roster in the NFL. The Bills could have easily won the SB without Tre White last season........they were 8-6 with him and 5-1 without...........but that doesn't mean that Tre White isn't a great CB or a difference maker.

One of the only saving grace's of having to endure the Patriots reign over the Bills and the NFL as a whole has been the general disdain the Boston media has shown Belichick. Sure he has his ball washers but a lot of the media was illogically critical of him when he was winning SB's. I am all for very high standards but you win that many SB's and dominate the sport for the longest stretch ever I think I can overlook vague complaints about cheating or your clearly bad drafting etc..

When evaluators say "the Bills have the best roster in football" I think a lot of fans have a misconception that this is like the 1990-1991 again when they had a star studded, HOF-filled roster that clearly had no peer. Decades of free agency has created A LOT more parity in the NFL. It's a fine line among the top 15 teams or so now..........especially because there have never been so many talented QB's in the league. If the Bills are in fact the best roster...........a lot of it is timing. They basically still have all of their top draft picks for the past 6 years under contract and they have spent the 3rd most actual cash in the NFL($275M) this season to fortify the rest of the roster. They are at the peak of resources right now. With some big free agent decisions looming someone else is likely to be in that sweet spot next year.........teams like San Diego or Cinci, who are still early in regimes but very talented, would seem to be the most likely to have that consensus in coming years.

The Yankees consistently have a top 3-4 payroll in the league..........not the highest.........that is usually the Dodgers recently.........though the Red Sox in other years have been at the top. The Mets ownership went all in to be the top spender this year and it's even helped them overcome being Metsy. The willingness to spend the extra $20M-$50M matters A LOT. All those teams are also big markets but their revenues and franchise worth are dwarfed by the Yankees. The Yankees $240M payroll in 2004 was higher on $300M in revenue versus in 2019 on $900M in revenue. So basically the father was cool with $50M in profits and being all-in on competing for a title.........while the son needs over $600M in profits and is satisfied with making a wildcard appearance most years. And Hal has the audacity to use the "cash to cap" type excuse that no team lost more revenue due to the pandemic. Yeah, that's what happens when you make multitudes more revenue than other teams.........you have more revenue to lose. There is no salary cap in baseball...........but there is a luxury tax and the greedy Hal would rather hover near the tax threshold......and lose to teams that are either spending more to add scale-tipping talents to their roster........or teams that are in a cycle of dominance due to years of drafting at the top.........than share a dime with his fellow partners in league ownership by spending what it takes to overcome the natural regression that comes from winning records every year and never drafting early or being able to sacrifice success to develop talent.

That's the thing........with each passing year more and more of the board dunces who supported Russ Brandon as GM now pretend that they did not and that it didn't color their opinion of Peters. Peters took the correct stance with a Bills organization that was pinching pennies. While many of the league's larger market owners were servicing debt while actively growing the league Ralph was doing nothing while piling up relatively massive $20M-$30M annual profits by skimming off the payroll with their cash-to-the-cap shyster-ism. That's why a lot of owners hated him and fans like yourself weren't intelligent enough to see what was happening. And no, the Bills don't have a player in their history who played 18 years, made tons of money and cemented their HOF legacy long earlier but agreed to near league minimum deals to keep playing until they were 40. Peters is a rare breed. Bruce Smith played forever but he was chasing a statistical milestone, not doing it for the love of the game. Kyle Williams was a Jason Peters type leader but Kyle called it quits after 2018 when he could have kept playing. Being with a losing franchise your whole career will do that to players though.

Well all of pro sports is adults playing kids games. Illogical thing to be catty about.

Fingers crossed that Jessica keeps that competitive spirit when her tennis career is over......and focuses it to owning the Bills. We don't know which Pegula would become managing partner in the event of one or both parents no longer being able to remain in charge.........but let's hope it's not someone mercurial like Ralph or an outright always profit-first, win-second steward. As a Yankees fan the successor to long time owner and 7 time champion George Steinbrenner has been the bean counting son Hal who has made the team 10x more profitable while keeping payroll literally stagnant for almost 20 years and not being committed to winning. Even with those resources being committed to winning championships is more than half of the battle.

Well for nearly 30 years.......since the drafting of Thurman Thomas and until the selection of Josh Allen.........Jason Peters was easily the best player the Bills had brought in from the college ranks and developed. It's not even close.......he's clearly the only one who will be a sure-fire HOF'er from that period...........and the Bills let him walk after paying him just $11M over 5 years and not wanting to give him a market deal for his position when he was among the very best in the game. Bills fans should remember these facts because if you don't know and acknowledge the mistakes of the past........you fall for whatever excuse an organization will make for not being committed to winning in the future. Anyone who thinks it's a given that the Bills are going to just automatically be a SB contender for the next 15 years forgets how quickly the winning culture that lead the team to 10 playoff appearances in 12 years, 5 championship games and 4 SB appearances disappeared when the owner got a little wishy-washy about winning and chose to instead favor the stacking of profits.

I know you are just being contrarian because you were anti-Peters and pro-Russ Brandon.........and you turned out to be dead wrong.........but Peters has made over $117M in his career.........he didn't come back and play 850+ snaps for a bad Bears team last season at age 39 because he needed that extra $1.75M. The Bills don't have a guy in their history who kept playing for the love of the game like Peters has. In Philly he's remembered in the same way that Bills fans remember a guy like Kyle Williams. A gamer who was a team leader and mentor to his fellow offensive lineman.

Like I said........the Arkansas staff trashed him..........and Buffalo did their part to perpetuate the disinformation by not playing him in the preseason. They intended to stash him on the PS. They succeeded, but he wouldn't stay there for long, would he? All he's done is become a sure-fire HOF LT and one of the more respected teammates and football-centric players in the NFL. So turns out a lot of people were wrong about him...........including you, who was among those who trashed him on here when he was traded. You guys were on the wrong side of Bills history.........both about Peters and perhaps more damning your believing whatever bullsh*t was spewed by that shyster Russ Brandon..........and you just can't own it.

Ridiculous. Peters was the star of the combine and there was talk he might be a first rounder as a LT despite never playing the position in college. The coaching staff at Arkansas threw a ton of shade on him with NFL teams in the lead up to the draft because they were angry that he declared despite so little playing experience. He declared because he felt that they had slow-played his development using him as a blocking TE. He was proven right. That's the theme with Peters.........all he has done is prove the naysayers to be complete idiots. He owes next to nothing to the Bills for making it..........they stole him in UFA.........he became the first or second best player in the NFL at what was at the time considered the second most valuable position on the field at left tackle..........and the Bills dealt him to avoid giving him a raise from right tackle money. Shortsighted thinking. Nowadays it's a GIVEN that you update the contract of a player if you move him from a low dollar position to a high dollar one.

Like you wouldn't insist on watching it live

u·nique adjective being the only one of its kind; unlike anything else. I think you are confusing Cook being a player with some promise in multiple aspects of the game with being "unique". There are a lot of players who excel in both the pass and run game......some can even pick up a blitz without looking like they just got hit by a truck. Cook is not unique and he obviously has a LONG way to go to earn comps to the likes of Kamara, McCaffrey, Austin Ekeler etc.. And even elite versions of those receiving type of RB's don't produce in the pass game like a good slot receiver, which is why the "3rd down back" is basically dead to the NFL. And one thing that a couple decades plus of playoff history has shown us is that teams that go out of their way to give RB's touches in the playoffs...........because they've invested heavily in them and that's what they did all season..........suffer in the playoffs. Doesn't matter if it's a guy like Derrick Henry or a totally different type like Alvin Kamara.

And in other good news on the farm..........1st round pick Spencer Jones from Vanderbilt has been tearing up low-A ball at a near .400 clip. hopefully they send Jones to the Arizona Fall league so he can get up to Double A next year

About damn time

Don't get @Limeaid started his MIL has the first chinese wing recipe scrawled on the inside of a sabretooth tiger pelt.

What would a New England sports teams fan like you know about good wings? Stick to chowda and baked bean recommendations. Bar Bill gets the great reviews because it is consistently excellent. If you think BB's rep is people trying to show they have the "inside scoop" you clearly don't know. On a given day any decent place can put out some equally good batches but if you are going to direct someone to a place one time then BB is a great choice because it's almost certain they will be top notch.

Yeah I didn't understand how Tenuta fit into the mix compared to the high RAS guys they had been accumulating. I suspect that a coach like Aaron Kromer might have had a good deal of say in which OL they drafted............but when it comes to the PS then Beane can just go with the criteria he prefers. He might even be relieved that he lost the opportunity to PS the seemingly slew footed Tenuta to the Colts waiver claim.

Of course they don't have much dead cap............they've spent $275M in LIVE cash this season to build their SB-favorito roster.........which is the 3rd most actual money spent in the entire NFL behind the Cleveland guaranteed-Watsons and the cash rich LA Rams that people like you have been insisting would have to gut their roster for going on 5 years now. If the Bills have a big dead money issue related to recent moves it's going to be in future years, not this one. This thread is just ignorance about how the salary cap works at it's finest.

Tenuta tested horrible athletically........4.93 RAS. Doyle tested a 9.9 RAS.

After the Bills win one maybe they get a greater benefit of the doubt about their preseason outlook from UFA's but they are far from a big favorite.......and the AFC this season is shaping up like the toughest conference since the SB era began. It will be very impressive if they win it under these circumstances. But it's not like some years where the favorite is given upwards of 15%-20% chance of winning it by Vegas.

Budget conscious Hal invests in famous soccer club........ https://nypost.com/2022/08/30/new-york-yankees-buy-10-stake-in-italian-soccer-power-sources/

Sept 19, 2021.........a day that will liver in infamy for burp-ball

Yeah you blurted that prediction out.........and you have no recollection whatsoever. You really gotta' go easy on the liquid peanut butter before 4pm. So are you standing by your prediction that McBeane weren't worth re-upping your 26 year season tickets for or does that bold take fall out of your 5 year window of no regrets or apologies whatsoever?