BADOLBILZ

When you find yourself uttering that sentence unsarcastically........just know it means you are talking about a dumb player. In Elijah Moore's last game as a Buffalo Bill........two passes intended for him resulted in interceptions. That's who he is. I hope Denver figures it out because the way you use him is you throw it where he's supposed to be and then the other team catches it because even they know that's where he was supposed to be.

James Cook was paid last because he was trying to be paid as much as superstars Derrick Henry and Jonathan Taylor. That's top 3-4 money for the position. But Cook hadn't produced anywhere near their level. Particularly not with regard to workload. Prior to this season Cook was part-timer compared to those guys. The other Bills players extended were offered deals that were nowhere near the top of their respective positions. They accepted them. I'm plenty critical of Beane for his contract/pro personnel work but how is getting James Cook to prepare all offseason like he was going to have to max out his production in 2025 to get paid perceived as a bad thing? What it did was increase the likelihood of getting at least one season where Cook was in peak condition physically and focused mentally. Just like extending Ed Oliver in summer got that one season out of him where he actually played close to his potential. Dangling the carrot until the hay is in the barn is good business.

Yeah I found it interesting that nobody mentioned this LAST week when they were #1 in fewest passing yards allowed.

Yeah I think people still think this is that team that can put up 28 on anybody in the first half if they are focused. It's not a matter of not being fired up it's a matter of not having the personnel to play balanced offensively. The impact of running the ball relentlessly like they have to usually isn't going to show up until the second half. Like it or not this is the team they have become. The "formula" isn't throwing the ball around like Joe Marino and company were pushing after that Bucs win. The formula is run the ball and don't turn it over and then have Josh Allen make the few plays with his feet that differentiate you from the typical Jauron Ball unit.

Yeah the Hoecht injury was tragic because he was looking like a huge difference maker for them the rest of this season. But roids are notoriously hard on tendons. Never a surprise when a juicer pops a tendon. The bummer is that NOW he's in the "real" testing program so his PED options will be limited. Typically the cheats tend to get a year of carry over performance before the bottom falls out. So Beane has to figure on getting the shell version of Hoecht after a year and a half of having to be cleaner than those players who haven't gotten themselves caught. I don't think you can count on him for too much next season. As for Joey Bosa.......I think we need to realize that the very slim chance that Bosa had a full-on "second act" coming and hopes that he could turn into one of those guys who figures out how to stay healthy late-career should have gone out the window with all the nagging, performance limiting injuries he's had this season. Now he's got a pulled hammy going into THE game where, on paper, everyone knew they would need pass rush more than any this season. If he misses the next couple games that will be gross. I think at best he is just going to be a week-to-week journeyman pass-rush-only guy for the rest of his NFL career. Maybe in the offseason they can get a package deal with him and his former teammate Khalil Mack. Instead of bookends they could share a spot. More likely, they go back to the DE well in round 1.

Yeah Heyward has always been a bully on the field. He has been taking extra shots at QB's all of his career and it just burns him that Allen is the one who won't take it. And as Heyward has gotten older he's really turned into a whiny b!tch. Wasn't impressed with him on Hard Knocks last year or his tough talk about Rodgers when Rodgers was deciding whether he was going to play for Pittsburgh. He needs to relax or realize that if he wants to be on a SB team again he needs to be willing to relocate.

Yeah, unfortunately.

I've mentioned this phenomenon a few times..........but some people just start worrying about losing a player every time they have a good game. As Jerry Glanvile famously said........NFL stands for Not For Long. Performance can drop off quickly. It's generally better to let things play out.

Bernard had a tremendous 2023. Most splash plays by an inside/middle LB since Urlacher in the early 2000's. Super smart, instinctive player and the Bills best pass rusher. Just.......for some reason.........they decided to quit trying to be big and force double teams at one-tech. Perhaps because they didn't have to justify Edmunds 1st round status any longer. That was fine if they were just going to chew Bernard up and spit him out and draft another guy to play the middle but he's much too small to hold up to the beating of being in the middle of a two LB system without a space eating 1T. Extending him with time left was stupid. On defense, safeties and LB's are usually the positions most allowed to hit free agency. There will be 3-5 relatively big name LB's that they could have replaced Bernard with this offseason. They should have let Bernard play it out and see if he survives if that's the way you are playing it. To @Avisan point.......they should have done with Edmunds what the Bears have done to get the most out of Edmunds(currently on IR, fwiw). The Bears moved him to outside LB.

Yeah I would too but given the choice I'd rather have NFL games in February.

They should go to 18 games with two byes and give us football all thru the sporting wasteland of February. Otherwise it's fine, IMO. The whining about it is usually from fans whose teams are injury prone. The schedule wasn't an issue when this roster was young and not missing games and Thursday night wasn't a problem when McD was undefeated on Thursday nights etc..

To @BillMafia716ix point.......I think when you sign a player like Palmer to a deal where they have to play better than they had the year before to justify the value of the contract.........the runway on whether the deal was good or not is pretty short.

I don't even presume he took it in HS. I think he was a golf major. It's the anniversary of his impactful performance in the Egg Bowl I wonder if he will show up to support Kiffin and the boys. https://www.businessinsider.com/video-egg-bowl-ole-miss-piss-elijah-moore-mississippi-state-2019-11

The next time Elijah Moore is a positive for a team's offense it will be the first time in his NFL career. He has a CAREER 65.7 passer rating when targeted and was probably the worst receiver in the NFL to get regular snaps in 2024. There is a real chance he would have at least started the season on a practice squad this season if the Bills hadn't thrown him a lifeline. Allen ever trusting Moore was a stretch. Additionally, it doesn't take much research to see that in Brady's first season as an NFL OC in Carolina he had two 1,000+ yard receivers plus an 800+ yard Curtis Samuel. None of which were superstars. This coming off having the greatest passing offense in the history of college football. But not running the ball enough was cited in his firing in Carolina. I think people need to consider the fact that he is running what Josh Allen and McDermott want. A simple system. Which would probably work in spite of perceived predictability if the talent was right. Moore wasn't ever going to move the needle for this team but some of you just can't get over his draft pedigree.

Unless you and @gobills404 don't follow the NFL or are just bad at math it shouldn't seem disingenuous. That record is EXACTLY what the Rams were. No spin. They were around .500 over that period and teams that can do that are going to be in WC contention. In fact, the Rams then started out 1-4 in 2024.........so they were actually 16-23 over the first 39 games post SB win. It was getting ugly. But that 25-26 also INCLUDES their extraordinary 10-2 finish last year(when Bills fans saw them, not during their inept start). In 2023 they were the definition of middling. The 9-8 Saints actually had a huge point differential advantage over those Rams but missed the playoffs. There are just a lot of people on here who don't want to accept that the Rams DID actually take a multi-season re-set in engineering their team and salary cap turnaround.

Agree.........but I don't think it's him. He's just a posession guy right now, IMO. But as I've said in other threads, this guy was a very successful WR1 running choice routes in an EP type system for years. Like Allen said, he picked up the playbook immediately. Should they decide to lean back into that Dorsey/Daboll stuff down the stretch they now have Cooks, Shakir and Davis who have all been there and done it. Though Gabe wasn't particularly good at it so that will be a concern.

He still might have said no to the Bills. He was a free agent. I find it unlikely because they literally still have all the CB's that they dealt him for peanuts in favor of on the roster.......but they may have offered him a PS spot.

Yeah the narrative that he is an assh0le came from the fact that he got traded a lot. He had a long career as a mid-league level WR1 so I think teams were always just making business decisions about his contract. That's certainly why the Saints traded him the first time. By all accounts he's always been a very professional player and good teammate. I am not sure what impact he will have on the room arriving at the end of the season like this but the Bills have not had someone like him and with his credibility in the WR room since they drafted Coleman. Certainly can't hurt, IMO. Cooper was a great player but not a particularly positive influence.

Succinctly put. Whether you call it football intelligence or instinct.......there are always some players who just can't translate their gifts because of a lack of it. And it's hard for fans to identify. Lil' Dummy McKenzie was a good example. The negative impact he had was significant. CJ Spiller is an all-timer kinda' example of unrealizable talent. Big red flags for "dumb" players always pop up though. For Moore it was as simple as following his brutal career passer rating when targeted and INT numbers. He's literally NEVER been a positive for any offense he'd played in. In an era with less statistical info available you might get a nugget like when Tasker let it slip on air that CJ Spiller wasn't getting more reps late in his rookie year because he still didn't understand the play calls(after playing in a flash card signal system at Clemson). Then the emergence of the all-22 footage where he clearly had no clue where his blocking was going and was just running to daylight. Even then, Sean Payton couldn't see it and thought he'd struck gold in FA. Moore just seems to have the spatial awareness of a pinball compared to an average NFL WR. If the Bills do decide to incorporate more choice routes back into their system that would just further diminish his potential value in their offense.

Blaming Rousseau for the defensive struggles is just such a particularly bad take that it's easy for media to point out.

I got a string of like 5 of the lower bowl seats for $15 when they replaced those like 20 years ago or so. Those seats saw teams win AFCCG at home 3 times. There were just piles and piles of them. But they WERE being sold even then. Hammer had a bunch of them in the junk area behind his garage too.

"Wayyy better than stanazolol and won't show up in a pi$$ test"

In fairness........McDermott's "complementary football" phase won 24 of the next 27 meaningful regular season games. As you said, the problem was assuming that efficiency was sustainable with modest to bad passing game personnel despite seeing it fail with ball-in-hand at the end of the two Brady playoff losses. And a sh!tty offensive performance against Baltimore in a narrow home win. They drew the wrong conclusions. As did most of the fans who have pounded their fist relentlessly about the defense costing the Bills SB trips for years. Both sides of the ball have underperformed their regular season numbers by a exactly a touchdown in the elite 8 level of the playoffs since 2020 yet some fans think the offense has been on point and the defense is down -14 per game. Not the case. When your strength is the #1 difference making player in football......lean into THAT.

The 8 interceptions and the 40 something passer rating when targeted in 2024 basically made him toxic to the rest of the league. I said it when they signed him.........he's just not trustworthy. I'm sure the Bills thought a simple passing system would elevate him and maybe he'd be an asset in scramble drills but they were wrong.

One of those turkey's didn't quite reach temp so it rode home(unbeknownst to me driving) on the top of our Dodge Ram van. It was pretty well suctioned on there after 70 miles.