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No the simplest explanation is that you aren't even going to find an available offensive guard with the obvious upside......and therefore potential impact because it's a premium position.........of a receiver like Jerry Jeudy.

Like I said.........it's not a philosophical discussion, Mrs. Norwood. I isolated 4 specific drive-decisive plays where a McKenzie failure LITERALLY ended the Bills chances to score points on those drives. It's accepted that some moments are bigger/higher leverage situations than others...........if you want to rationalize how a mistake in the first quarter was as impactful as a mistake that runs out the clock at the end of the game.........that is a purely philosophical discussion because there is no telling how things change over such a broad set of plays thereafter. If McKenzie doesn't kill the clock in Miami.....we know what happens........they spike the ball and the next play is a potential game winning field goal attempt. It's that simple. There weren't a number of variables left. Even then I didn't say he absolutely cost them the game........but he did cost them a chance at a game deciding kick. It's different, for instance, than the McKenzie wide-open drop early in the Bills first TD drive in KC when they were backed up into their end zone. There were still downs left in that series and like 70 more overall plays left to change the outcome in the game.

Yep. But baseball has a very different dynamic with their customers...........it can survive and thrive with economic disparities because it provides games everyday. And it's the more naturally competitive sport. There aren't the naturally huge winning % disparities between the best and the worst that there are in football. The few of the very best MLB teams average 10-6 every 16 games...........and the worst go 6-10. There were years where 10-6 didn't even get teams into the playoff field at all in the NFL. But if those kind of spending disparities existed in the 17 game per year NFL the level of competition would be a joke. And then there would only be enough interest to support the very largest markets. The decrease in every kind of revenue stream would be exponential. Football simply doesn't make enough product to survive doing it any other way and Pete Rozelle knew that and their system of sharing the largest revenue streams is how he elevated the NFL up to the level of baseball and beyond when they hadn't even been in the same stratosphere of interest in the first half of the 20th century. MLB also does have the basic parity system of drafting at the top when you lose just like the NFL........but additionally teams often have 10 years or even more of player control over signees(6 once at the MLB level) so that gives teams time to develop talent from within and build just that doesn't exist in the NFL. They also have a rule where you have to put 5th year minor leaguers......sometimes still raw 20 year olds........on your protected big league 40 man roster or expose them to other teams in a supplemental draft in December that also serves to undermine the depth of winning organizations and reward teams that are bad at scouting, drafting and developing by handing them free and seasoned prospects. That system sorta' works like a reverse "comp pick" situation where you take mid-late round picks away from winning teams. And baseball also has long had a system where you lose your first round pick if you sign a player in unrestricted free agency who has been given a qualifying offer by his past team. That team then got a free pick in between rounds 1 and 2. So baseball HAS competitive balance procedures in place that significantly impact how big markets do business. The aforementioned Orioles have been terrible for a long time and subsequently have drafted at the very top and now have a relatively strong nucleus of young talent. So they should win with a low payroll for 3-5 years before they have to decide if they want to spend like the mid-large market team they've actually always been. That's the dream for teams..........to win on the cheap and pocket big money for a few seasons before they have to decide how all-in they are. Teams like the Cubs and Astros have used tanking to re-set their talent level and win titles in the last decade and then chosen to go opposite directions with regard to spending/committment to winning.

Well I will give you a Bills comparison...........the Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner makes "cash to the cap" version of Ralph look like a spendthrift. The Yankees used to spend about 80% of their gross revenue on payroll during their most recent dynasty around 2000. Now it's less than 30%........the lowest % of any team in MLB. When you have 30 straight winning seasons.........the Yankees haven't had a losing season after the Bills lost SB XXVI to the then Washington "Redskins"...............you never get to reset your prospect system and draft at the top...........so you naturally have to buy more and more talent to remain status quo........and if you cheap out..........you get what you pay for. Vegas was about right.........they had the Yankees as the 6th best team in MLB and they made the final 4 but really were like the 6th or 7th best team.

The play where McKenzie ran out the clock LITERALLY ended the game. It's not a philosophical discussion.......you can point to all kinds of excuses/reasons for winning and losing games......but THEN there are the actual mistakes that literally end a series or a game. In limited opportunities....he has just 17 catches totalling less than 10 yards per catch.......... he's incredibly managed to personally snuff 4 drives this season with his boneheaded play: 1) the handoff interception in LA 2) the dopey dash in Miami 3) the fumbled toss in KC 4) the 4th down end zone drop. Those mistakes all turned the ball over or sealed a defeat. He's had plenty of other non-plays but those were all possession changing mistakes.

You claim to be "putting some content in here" but other than noting that he had an 84 yard punt return......which we all saw and remember.......you cite no actual content/stats. You are the one trying to suck people into pretending you know some numbers........but that other people should look them up. Nice try Tom Sawyer. I know McKenzie's history..........I watched him at Georgia and followed his epic run of stupidity/carelessness with the ball in Denver and was dubious of picking up Lil' Dummy because turning the ball over on special teams........with as little impact as returners have on todays game..........is not what winning teams do. No matter how you slice it........he's fumbled on about 10% of his overall regular season returns and his 22 yard return average on kickoffs is simply lousy. If he was a 30 yard per return guy maybe we can talk about progress made.........but he's not.........which is why he got short leashed after a preseason PR fumble in Chicago and benched after the phantom tackle faceplant fumble versus Indy last season.

I mean........those are just his opinions. He lost his mole in the organization when Scott Berchtold got shown the door in 2017. It doesn't even qualify as a secret that Berchtold was the guy........he wasn't very discreet about it. Everyone's info ran dry the moment he was fired but Vic had the most to lose. I do think they need another receiver to push Kumerow and McKenzie down the depth chart.

Really? The exact same? Allen threw 60 passes in that game and made numerous plays almost nobody in the league could. They aren't in that game without his extraordinary skills. He gets a pass for an occasional physical error like that in a big spot. McKenzie is just a role player who is too lacking in self awareness and attention span to understand his limitations and prepare accordingly. When the ball is in his hands he needs to know those limitations and not make mental errors. I have no confidence in that happening because he thinks he's the fastest player in the league and has not taken accountability for his errors. Like I said, he was critical of McD for benching him after this beauty:

You mean Josh Allen's first "interception" of the season? As I've said........Lil' Dummy is the teams biggest turnover threat. Every time an opposing team kicks off I breathe a sigh of relief when it's a touchback. He has 9 fumbles on just 47 career kick returns. And ZERO touchdowns and just a 22 yard per return average. That's unfathomable. He could return his next 5 for TD's and still be far in the red for his impact as a KOR man.

Singletary has always been a tremendous "yards after contact" RB. Suggesting that he only gets what the defense gives him is being quite contradictory to that fact.

He may very well have already cost them the Dolphins game. It was only a tying field goal attempt but he definitely cost them that. And according to some people() he cost Ken Dorsey a chance at a head coaching job when he lost his composure after Lil' Dummy's dopey dash ended the game.

Were you in the Tom Brady schadenfreude threads whining about "mean spirited" comments? If not, STFU you hypocrite. "Last Guy on the Bench" sounds right for Lil' Dummy.

You literally criticized the ball placement on an accurately thrown football and are now pretending that you did not. The ball was where it was supposed to be for that coverage. He's Lil' Dummy because he regularly has mental errors/concentration lapses that you don't expect from a veteran player. He shouldn't be struggling with reading coverages.........he shouldn't be unnecessarily drifting or rounding off routes........his footwork should be second nature. It's his job to be prepared and not to stack errors upon errors in games. He has plenty of physical talent to be a serviceable starting NFL slot receiver........but he just does A LOT of dumb things. He's lost every job he's been given in the NFL and it's trending that way once again. He is not trustworthy.

Straight up for McKenzie! Classic!

Clutch your pearls if that suits you. Bad players getting jeered is part of the checks and balances of pro sports. As a consumer, if you stand for nothing you'll fall for anything and I don't think anyone wants to see would-be SB season come to a halt because a bad player just kept getting reps. Bill Polian was criticized for not replacing the increasingly weak-legged Scott Norwood after the 1989 season. He was then terrible in 1990.........bottom third of league in fg % and atrocious on kickoffs. But Polian was stubborn and Norwood was his find. He left an unnecessarily very weak link in the lineup and lost a SB because of it. Maybe you will drive in from Cheshire for the post SB loss parade where the crowd cheers for the cryin' Lil' Dirty at the podium after he drops the winning pass.........I'd prefer we bypass that and get a W instead.

I bought my girlfriend a Bills themed tweety night shirt on Abbott before a game during the last SB season. Tweety had a pissed off look sitting in his cage saying Bad ol' Bills. And that's how other teams and their fans felt about the Bills and their traveling "pack of huns" fanbase(as one New England parking lot attendant described Bills fans in an SI article). I had first considered "Big Bad Bills"........the title of the great picture from the SI cover with Jay Schroeder getting his helmet yanked sideways by the facemark by Darryl Talley but it was too "on the nose" and serious.

I wasn't in the game day thread...........I actually ATTEND all home games and watch the road games with much of the same tailgate contingent.........I'm not fiddling around on the internet with you neurotics during an actual game. Never have, never will. So piling on?? GTFOH Freddie. Do you think only people who were in touch with the GDT on TSW could deduce how badly he's played this season? You should see the outtakes from Stef Diggs uncle Charlie that they had to edit out!

The 49ers are tied for first place in their very winnable division and have the second highest point differential in the NFC. Last year they won 2 games on the road as a wildcard to reach the NFCCG..........so if they win the division they are better positioned than last year entering the tournament...........you paint it out like they are some scrub in-the-hunt also-ran like the 2017 Bills with the worst point differential of an AFC playoff team in 30 years. And I'm not sure you understand what those numbers/percentages are telling you. The Bills entered the season as the SB favorite.......one of the smallest favorites ever with a sub 7% chance to win the Super Bowl. So an 8.2% chance of reaching the SB isn't minuscule.

How about a smurf for smurf exchange with Green Bay sending Amari Rodgers to the Jets?

What game do you watch where RB's run for "a lot more" than 4.7 yards per carry that Singletary has for his career? Jonathon Taylor and Nick Chubb are the absolute best in the business and are career 5.1 and 5.4 yard per carry RB's. Imagine the impact of 8.4 more yards spread out over ONLY 12 carries from Chubb instead of Motor! Wait.......how many more touchdowns did we score??

Traditional mafia would have just been like

You know who's head he wasn't in? Josh Allen's at the end of the game. There was NO F*CKING CHANCE he was going to throw Lil' Dummy a pass. The Chiefs could have left him uncovered that entire last drive.

You throw your hat in the ring and start telling someone how to be a fan and you will get feedback............you should have known better. And as Buddy Nix once said.........don't tell me about the labor pains show me the baby...........if you think you are Captain Bills fan and your pain and suffering with this team is so unique then tell us what makes it so. Put your hand on the monitor and feel the power of the worlds greatest fan base..........💪

Don't try to get this thread shut down by violating the terms of service with an unsolicited personal attack on a fellow poster. It's literally the first time it's occurred to some of you that McKenzie has been a little used bench player for the first 5 years of his career for a reason beyond his modest talent. Because he's always been unfocused and unreliable. They like him personally and he's dirt cheap........but every time they've given him the opportunity he literally and figuratively drops the ball. And on top of that he's been critical of the MORE well-liked head coach for not trusting him even though he just keeps letting him down.

He was done at the end of his age 24 season when he did a vanishing act in the playoffs as the Rams went to the Super Bowl. This kind of stuff always happened with star RB's but when it was the most important position in the game the 3 best athletes on the team were usually RB1, RB2 and RB3 so there was actual cream to rise to the top and be long term starting RB's. Now the cream of the crop of NFL athletes become receivers or defensive players......maybe even QB's.........because that is where the money is. 5 years ago 30 was the age that was the rule of thumb for top RB's to decline sharply..........now it's more like 26.