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No. It was after the long Allen TD run. And it was loud. The Bills chants going into the game were loud too and Jets fans really didn't try to shout it down. Unfortunately a high % of people that show up for road games get into things like that.........but don't automatically cheer for the team on defense. Tourists. We travel well but there are a lot of ex-pats who just use it as an excuse to visit places like Nashville, LA, NYC etc.. Getting many of them to show up in Buffalo in December? Not happening.

Maybe where you were sitting. The upper deck I would characterize as majority Bills fans with some Jets fans sprinkled in. I couldn't believe it. There were also a lot of Bills fans incognito wearing black Bills gear or Salute to Service camo clothes and mixed Bills/Mets/Yankees clothes. Likely afraid of being in the minority and being harassed in their red, white and blue. Not a lot of Jets green at all. And it was a late arriving Jets crowd at that. Midway thru the 1st quarter there were tons of empty seats. They were quite convinced they were going to lose, IMO.

The PA guy on 3rd down is particularly loud and drags it out a lot more at Met Life though. The Jets fans need it........they aren't easily fired up. It's annoying but so is the train whistle. Our PA guy could use the juice that the Jets guy has though.........especially as the crowd is getting more entitled and reserved by the week.........as is to be expected when you presume victory every week.

Yeah if going to a Bills game is only an occasional event then that's probably the case.............but I think if you are a person who attends 10+ games per year..........it's better to lose in person than watching it on TV. Just easier to get over the loss quicker in the atmosphere. Plus, having been in the stands you at least know you did your part if you made noise, etc.. Unfortunately these Bills fan occupations don't seem to move the players any longer. It used to fire them up. Now they just seem to expect it and don't feed off of the extra energy like they should, IMO.

Yeah but they were literally saying it........everywhere. They really lack an identity. After the win they played "Sweet Caroline"..........which is the Boston Red Sox song.

Are you concussed? He literally got concussed twice in that system this year. 😂 I asked you for an example of longevity being increased "astronomically" in a Shanahan style system.........as you put it. Maybe you are a little too emotional to be having this discussion......... Now the idea of adding another superstar receiver for Allen to throw to instead of the enigmatic Gabe Davis...........yeah I can get behind that.

So I was at the game yesterday and could not believe the amount of Bills fans. I was expecting 10K-15K with the Jets being good this year...........but half the place was Bills fans. Jets fans were in stunned disbelief themselves. Unfortunately.........it wasn't a boisterous group of Bills fans.........lotta' "look I'm a Bills fan" tourists taking selfies and getting up mid play to go get ice cream and other nonsense. Too many sat on their hands all day unless Jordan Phillips ran around and briefly fired them up. Got loud very late though and that helped on that last sack of Wilson.........but it was not a great noise showing considering the numbers. On the plus side there wasn't much taunting going out of the game because it was a largely split crowd. How do you taunt an opponent that occupies your stadium like that? Lot 26 was packed and rocking with Bills fans in particular.

Yes.........injuries like that. The Jets have been decimated too. And it's the defensive side of the ball where the Bills have so heavily invested in depth. The backups at CB, edge and WLB are 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks. Why Tre White isn't back is a f*cking mystery but at 11 months post-op next week...... it's time to stop saying he is injured. He's not.

Timing with what? Even though it's unusual for any QB to have suffered 2 UCL injuries my point is that he's taken a ton of punishment.....not that an arm injury alone is going to end his career. He could have TJ surgery tomorrow and come back throwing stronger than ever in 2024. That's the way TJ often works.........pitchers come back throwing harder. It's about the hard miles in general.

Give me another recent example of this working. Jimmy G? Trey Lance? Jared Goff? Matthew Stafford is playing some of the worst football of his career in year 2 in McVay's similar system. Nowhere in the Mike/Kyle Shanahan history has their offense ever been known to not get QB's hit. The first and easiest fix was address the WR position aggressively in either of the past 2 offseasons. Didn't happen.

Yeah it was astonishing how useless Cam became. It's hard to determine which really came first........his arm turning to jello or his brain. I'm by no means predicting an immediate end for Allen but the reality is that McBeane have endeavored to have 2 of everything on defense and yet on offense they are happy with Diggs, Dawkins and some guys. By rights........they should be able to beat Minnesota and Cleveland at home and Detroit on TG with Keenum at QB...........they have the most invested-in defense in the NFL in terms of dollars and premium draft picks. Every team has injuries.

Yeah it doesn't work that way. Can't rollback the odometer. The hits are just fine until suddenly they are not. That's why those with longevity in mind don't take them. McBeane chose to build this team around the defensive side of the ball.........just as those at their previous jobs in Carolina did. Whether that turns out to have been the right decision remains to be seen but it's all-in this season one way or another. Next year the parts start falling off and the degree of difficulty increases.

I think it's time people start revising their expectations of Josh Allen being an elite QB for "the next 10 years". No QB that has taken a beating anything close to Allen has been elite past their year 8 season.........this is year 5 for him. Maybe he defies the odds and makes it another 10 years as a top 5 QB but this also might be his best shot at a SB..........it's by no means a given that a long career of All Pro level football remains ahead.

He could have partially torn his UCL and thrown that pass. That would qualify as an elbow sprain. I think he did that to some extent against Houston in 2019. Depending on how serious the tear is he could play thru that. Former Yankees pitcher Masahiro Tanaka partially tore his UCL and has pitched with it like that for like 6-7 years now. He intentionally doesn't throw as hard to protect it but would throw harder when he needed to. The UCL is more likely to tear entirely once it's partially torn and really never heals completely without reconstruction but he might be able to finish the season.

Oh they should have tried to draft a QB? Same ownership that reached an AFC Championship game with a veteran QB and then positioned themselves a couple years later to draft Peyton Manning and then Andrew Luck and subsequently had almost 20 years of mostly All Pro level QB play should have drafted a QB? If Josh Allen retires unexpectedly in July with an expensive veteran team having been built around him then I guess Brandon Beane should have drafted a QB in round 1 of the 2023 draft as well. If anyone knows how to re-set their QB position.........it's the Colts.

I did not realize that I will have to learn more about the Lovecraft story. Yeah I actually liked Prometheus a lot as a stand alone...........but it being tied to Covenant really dashed the great start of Prometheus. That just turned into a meh Alien sequel movie. I thought maybe Prometheus would be a trilogy and often the second one is the best in those. It was a let down.

Nobody said they were a shoe-in this summer. They were one of the smallest SB favorites ever coming into the season. Around 7% chance to win the SB in the betting world. By contrast the 2018 Patriots entered the season with Vegas giving them an 18% chance. As it's turned out.........what was supposed to be the mostly hotly contested AFC and perhaps conference since the merger has not turned out that way. So they gained some ground as a favorite in September and October. But ultimately nothing is different than last year. The Bills were a trendy SB pick last year........they took care of KC on the road and looked like the AFC favorite while they ran up by far the largest point differential in the NFL.......but ruined their hopes of home field with an inexplicable month plus stretch where they just looked disinterested.

Some of you have no memory whatsoever. This happens every season under McDermott.........starting with the epic mid-season collapse in 2017............whatever it is, he fails to push the right buttons and they play bad football for about a month or so. Doesn't feel different in the least. Past two weeks have been lousy, unfocused efforts. Lucky to come out of it 1-1 given that neither opponent was 2021 Jacksonville Jaguars bad. If they were a road warrior playoff team it wouldn't matter.........because he usually has them tuned back up for the finish...........but he's 0-4 on the road in the playoffs so it would behoove the McBeane regime to figure out how to bypass the mid-season vacation this team takes every year. You could hear his understanding of this ongoing issue in his postgame last night. All 5 years that they've been competitive(save 2018 when they were terrible at the outset and never in contention) under McDermott the same thing has happened at the same point of each season.

It was just a nonsensical thing for you to bring up. Then after looking at the scoreboard you say you don't want to live in the past..........and then pose a bunch of hypotheticals about the past and the future. Scoreboard is the name of the game in sports. The reality is that they aren't going to win that trade. It's already cost them two playoff eliminations. They got Tre White and Tremaine Edmunds out of the deal(after a little sweetening to trade up) and they will both likely be retired while Mahomes is in still in his prime in his early-mid 30's. Maybe Allen goes on to win a SB or more and has a greater career than Mahomes but right now Mahomes is playing a style of game that lends itself to longevity. Allen is going into uncharted waters with the amount of running he does........no QB that has run anywhere near as much as Allen has remained elite past year 8(Allen is in year 5). So my advice is live in the present with a QB like Allen........and save the victory laps until there is a victory to lap about.

Nothing wrong with a little weed after a long day of rehabbing the knee. Not my cup of tea but it sure makes people religious.

Yeah Halloween Ends was atrocious. I didn't have high hopes after seeing the trailer depicting geriatric Jamie and Michael wrasslin' in a kitchen fight.......but wow it was even more terrible than I imagined. The previous movie was pretty good but was kinda' tame and lame compared to the second Rob Zombie Halloween which was getting a lot of movie channel run at the time. After the first two that was probably my favorite. But the first Rob Zombie Halloween was really lousy.

Giger was an obscure, grotesque artist who was brought into the movie business to do all the design for Dune by the eccentric movie maker Jodorowsky. Giger and Dan O'Bannon of Alien worked on Dune for a couple years. It was ready to shoot but it was like an 8 hour movie and no studio would undertake that. There was a massive amount of work created for Dune. When the work didn't get used on Dune the distinctive Giger style was able to be used in Alien. Other popular movies borrowed from the work of Dune too because studios were given the full storyboarded book as a sales pitch for Dune. 40 years later, the mountains in Prometheus were an homage to Giger's Harkonen palace design from the original Dune.

Yet you were literally dredging up the past. We've stopped talking about it only because we like our QB and are focused on maybe winning a SB this season. But at the same time it's neither a score that can be settled or a mistake that can be rectified in just one season.........the 2017 Bills draft hierarchy created their biggest obstacle to the SB for the subsequent 6 seasons and counting with that trade and are literally 0-2 versus Mahomes and the Chiefs in the playoffs and have had to watch them play in 2 SB's and win 1.

I think the Eagles have the more balanced roster........because their OL is better and their secondary is more intact. But the Bills are clearly better at most if not all of the premium positions: QB1 Bills WR1 Bills LT1 Bills Pass Rusher1 Bills CB1 Close but White over Slay if Tre is healthy Most notable of those advantages, of course........QB1. I don't want to discount Hurts because he's good and has done a lot but there is a difference in their playmaking ability. Adding Nyheim Hines and hopefully the subject of this thread OBJ coming in and looking like late season OBJ of last year should elevate them even more offensively..........which is actually their weaker side of the ball.

Excellent player. Especially on that 1983 Redskins team that is one of the best teams to not win a SB(like the 1990 Bills). Largest head in the NFL when he was playing. His helmet was basically a trash can. RIP Butz.