BADOLBILZ

Yes there are some and they have some very boring stories about it.

People think SI is the Sports Illustrated of old but that site is just a really bad fan blog like the Bleacher Report back in it's early years. Putting the word "rumors" in the title implies that there is some chance that such a trade happens and there absolutely is not. I saw an "article" the other day that suggested the Yankees might trade their valuable second baseman Gleyber Torres to the Dodgers for a washed up bum who can only play DH named JD Martinez that they picked up off the street this winter. Meanwhile the Yankees already have 4 guys to who need days off at DH. Utter stupidity. When you start seeing articles about trading players that were just signed in free agency for peanuts to other teams..........that the other team could have just signed if they had any value to them..........you know that it's an idiot fan post.

Oh so sarcastically asking what centers that went after round 3 in that draft have become All Pro's......when I never suggested there were.....wasn't snark? You get what you give. (1) Don't care who the highest rated RB's or Centers were. I already stated my long held opinion........which is reflected in how teams draft in round 1 now........that those positions don't have the impact of premium positions where there are a lot of 1 on 1 matchups that allow individual players to alter the outcomes of games. Edge and Island. Humphrey is a good center but the way teams defense QB's now they rarely line up a big NT over center. Instead they shoot gaps which often leaves the center as just a help man. Very rarely left alone to pass block. Watch the tape. Humphrey spends a lot of time dancing alone and looking around in pass pro which are the most important downs in football(obviously). (2) Humphrey is listed at 300 pounds and has never played guard. He started at center immediately at Oklahoma as a freshman and that was that. All of you that claim you knew so much about him should have at least known that. Amateur scouts can play make believe and pretend that he can play guard or tackle or tight end in the NFL or wherever else your imagination allows..........but he's not done it and isn't close to a physical ideal anywhere else. The Bills have two very solid NFL centers in Morse and Bates(who actually played left tackle in the two biggest conferences in college football, fwiw). It's not a position of weakness by any stretch........and both guys were already on the Bills roster at the time that Humphrey was drafted.......which is why you guys have to use your imagination to explain why the Bills needed to draft one in round 2.

3 years is an eternity for a player like Hill.........the millisecond that he loses that elite-elite speed the Dolphins will be looking to top-grade his complicated act off of the roster.

How far back do you want to go? Last year the first team All Pro center(Kelce) was a former 6th rounder. In 2020 and 2021 they were the same guys, who were 5th(Linsley) and 6th(Kelce) rounders. As for the "can also play guard" part..........when did Creed Humphrey play guard and prove that? In your imagination?

Never underestimate the motivational impact of a walk year. AJ had 6.5 sacks on just 38% of snaps and flashed a high ceiling as a pass rusher. Which has been surprising because he didn't seem to have that potential in his bag as more of a base DE at Iowa. His weaknesses are correctable.

A big impact on who? Wright is not some obscure talent he was a 5 star recruit that NFL scouts have been following since he stepped on campus. Which included an ugly run at LT. They've seen his tape at length. I sincerely doubt there has been much, if ANY, change of opinion on him for the positive from NFL teams since after the season.

The perception that players are moving up is only occasionally the reality. I think it was Sports Illustrated that had Jason Peters mocked as a late 1st round pick in their magazine mock that year after he had a seemingly huge "draft process". He went undrafted. Obviously the more recent Tariq Woolen example in last draft. Those are the memorable examples because they played well when they got in the league. Tons of less interesting examples of guys who "fell" despite media helium that never amounted to anything.

TSW eternal ignorance absolutely adores it's non-premium positions in round 1.........but those low hanging fruit choices at RB and C are a big non-difference maker organizationally. Boogie Basham was a poor choice IMO but pass rushers and CB1 talents are premium positions that make a difference and cost real money. That's what the early rounds are for. You can get centers and RB's that produce on day 3 every year.

You really don't know? Kelce has averaged 100 catches and nearly 1300 yards over the past 5 seasons. One teams fortune in not having to pay top of the market for a superstar receiving target does not equate to the formula being not to pay a star.

I generally agree but occasionally a Demario Davis comes along. A guy who seems to lack instincts but then 5-6 years into the league it kicks in and he becomes an All Pro after being replacement level for much of the time prior. It's not the example to go by though. LB's and RB's usually process info and make decisions quickly or they never do.

I followed him pretty closely after the middle of this past season.........and I didn't see the system hiding weaknesses in Seomalu. He just looked great. The metrics that had him ranked as the top pass blocking guard in the NFL from the midway point thru the Super Bowl itself passed the eye test. He was killing it. I do think the big question is sustainability. He made a HUGE leap last year after a long run of mediocrity and injury and now he's in his 30's.

Fluker looking fit doesn't change the fact that he's 32 and been away from the game. He was always a powerful but painfully slow footed dude and if I remember his GF used to beat his ass on the regular cuz he gets walked on like stairs. Not sure why you would think he'd be better than the young and more athletic(and mean) Spencer Brown. Rodger Saffold looks like he could kick every other guard in the league's asss when he's in the weight room but the movement skills are gone.

My guess is age......he's 30.......plus the fact that he's had some injuries and was really only close to this level of player in his walk year.

There is a thread for this totally non-Bills, non-football, non-Buffalo, non-WNY, non-NY state who-actually-gives-a-*****-but-gamblers-topic located "off the wall".

Nobody is going to pay anything close to his $19.5M base salary this year. That's why he doesn't have much if any trade value as it stands.

Yeah the Cardinals reported unwillingness to pay some of his 2023 base salary to facilitate a deal would of course make this the most likely scenario. From Hopkins perspective I think he'd be better off financially if Arizona did take on some of his 2023 base salary and trade him to get some kind of draft capital.........because he'll be lucky to get $10M in guarantees from his new team, IMO. I just doubt that they will give up $10M-$15M to get themselves a couple day 3 draft picks. So for some reference on the trade value of simple dollars and cap space: Back in 2017 the Texans traded Brock Osweiler to the Browns along with the Texans 2nd and 6th round picks in exchange for the Browns taking Osweiler off their hands and absorbing $16M in guarantees remaining on his contract. The cap has gone up from $167M to $225M since then so that same trade today would have been worth $21.5M to the Texans.

Not that sudden movement skills helped Tremaine Edmunds much in man coverage. Despite the hype about him being able to play nickel corner at VA Tech he didn't pee a drop in man coverage in his career in Buffalo and in the rare instance when he had the foresight to identify where a ball was going in time to easily defend the pass he would focus on running thru the player rather than playing the ball. He had something of a bounce-back year in coverage last year but the prior two years teams threw at him even when he had great position because his ball skills are incredibly poor. His physical talent/potential will be hard to beat but his lack of awareness in the heat of a play will not be hard for his successor to surpass.

His comp is Jason Peters like a Myles Murphy comp is Bruce Smith. In both cases........regardless of underwear olympic numbers they may have put up.......vastly different levels of athleticism on the field.

There is a misconception that he was good last season........he had the same kind of modest impact that he had in 2017 and 2018 when he also played around 450-475 snaps and produced similarly. The front office and fans alike were extremely disappointed in that version of Shaq and he had his 5th year option declined. He is quite simply a league minimum player at this point. Jordan Phillips should have been a league minimum only signing as well.

I think that's another "not" unpopular opinion..........but it's true that even the organizational water carriers who have had to poo-poo the notion that the team wasn't physical enough to protect their access to the team(like Shill Capaccio, for instance)......... are now having to admit as much because the coach himself is saying it in actions and words.

There was no indication that was what you meant.......learn how to communicate better or you'll be looking like buzzed vacation @McBean creating conclusions from thin air . And no, there was no doubt that Dawkins would start somewhere on the Bills offensive line as a rookie. There was zero chance he'd redshirt even on a very veteran Bills OL that had lead the NFL in rushing and big plays the prior 2 seasons. There would definitely be uncertainty whether Harrison could earn a starting role. For sure. The question with Dawkins was whether he was a tackle at all or if his lack of height and flabby body would limit him to being a potential high end guard. Power he had in spades and he also had "adequate" LT length with longer arms and bigger hands despite his squat build. Power and length/hand size are not strengths for Harrison entering the league.......hence him being a project and unlikely to translate to interior positions early in his career. The two players aren't good comps.........whoever said that was lazy scouting........perhaps trying to talk themselves or others into the Bills fit. If Harrison succeeds at LT it won't be done looking like the powerful Dawkins, IMO........... it will be more about footwork, awareness and technique. He enters the NFL as a finesse talent.

They said what about Dawkins?

Ironically, you hated the Josh Allen pick and were near inconsolable on TSW at the time. And I like how you drew a total nothing blow-off, leave-me-be-I-am-on-vacation statement from someone affiliated with a team that plays Buffalo every 4 years as proof that a specific unmentioned aspect of the Bills was seen as their most glaring deficiency. Humor is content. Not in 2023. In fairness, I didn't think Dawkins was going to be a good LT either but Harrison seems like less of an athlete and more of a project.