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Rashee Rice is actually a WR1. Mahomes had a 123.7 passer rating when targeting him(and it was 102 targets, not a small sample size like Khalil Shakir). He out-produced the 1st rounders Jordan Addison and Zay Jones and then was huge for them in the playoffs. His statistical projections for this year based on the sites I have seen predict he will produce around 95-100 catches and 1100-1200 yards 7-9 TD's most likely. Not All Pro so not "elite" but definitely excellent WR1 production. The Bills don't have anyone projecting anywhere close to that. But Rice doesn't have to be "elite". They already have Travis Kelce, the elite of the elite at TE in the NFL. I like Dalton Kincaid but unless you presume that he is going to now match Kelce as the top receiving TE then the Bills WR corps doesn't match up to KC's 1-2 punch in either spot. I mentioned all the capital KC invested in WR because they didn't intentionally allow themselves to get worse at WR. @Zerovoltz suggestion that the Chiefs did so intentionally was preposterous. They expected to get MUCH better results from Moore and Toney. They hit a HR with their 3rd try in Rice.........getting a guy who produced at such a high rate as a rookie and excelled in the postseason.

Yep and using back-to-back 1st round picks on receiving targets will help make your "worse receivers" dream come true! Just like the Chiefs throwing 3 day 2 picks (Toney/Moore/Rice) at the WR position has yielded results. Bottom line........if you want to win in the NFL you need talented receiving targets.

I liked Marshall as a potential Gabe Davis upgrade at X in that 2021 draft but it just hasn't materialized for him. From the sounds of it he just hasn't worked hard enough for the opportunities in Carolina. Doesn't play special teams so once he got down the chart it was easy to inactivate him last season. As you note he is big and fast and also has better hands than Gabe, is better at contested catches and can actually be effective on short, chain moving throws that the clap-catcher could not. But something has been missing. He was a 5 star recruit, was drafted as a 20 year old and maybe he thought it was just going to keep coming easy for him and hasn't risen to the challenge. It really surprises me that Marshall hasn't changed teams but his trade value is like nil going into a walk year with such a loaded draft class so maybe the Panthers have just chosen to hold onto him and see if he breaks out.

I agree about baseball making a mistake in reducing the amount of minor league affiliates........that was an unnecessary cost-cutting measure that limits opportunities for people to see pro baseball in person. Unfortunately, the A's have just never been supported in volume in Oakland. As I said in the other thread on this topic they were near the bottom of the league in attendance when they were on that historic 3 straight WS victory run in the 1970's at a time when the ballpark was NOT a relic. Their ballpark should have been replaced with one of those retro style parks back in the 1990's but Oakland had that Marshawn Lynch, sneak your own booze in attitude about the A's. Now the government realizes they should have made more effort to keep those 81 home dates but the PR has been so bad for so long there is no guarantee that if the A's build a new park that the fans won't stay away out of spite. They need a fresh start.

Gabe is much more of a Marquez Valdes Scantling comp than he is a comp to Metcalf. Gabe and MVS have benefitted immensely from playing their entire careers with elite QB's and being a complementary option. When given opportunities to step up in class........they have both wilted. Metcalf is similar stylistically, but he's clearly on a different level. He is often tasked with going against the opponents top CB and has produced despite non-elite QB play. Btw.....as you know, you cherry picked Metcalf's catch %........which is over 60% for his career versus Gabe's career 54.5%. And as @BuffaloRebound also noted.........due to his physicality DK becomes a much more effective player in the playoffs when the yellow hankies get tucked away. Gabe gets called "playoff Gabe" as he has put up 68 yards per game and 6 TD in 7 games..........but Metcalf has averaged 113 yards per game and scored 5 TD in 4 games. Is DK worth the top of the market $ for a WR? No, but he's probably worth somewhere in the middle of that and what Gabe and MVS have been paid on their 2nd contracts.

Like I said, my rationale is based on Shakir not having made these plays. I'm not presuming he couldn't possibly get better but the good tape isn't there. And instead some bad tape is. You make an interesting point about the bullets that Allen throws. Allen can reach parts of the field with low trajectory bullets that maybe no other QB can.......and that trait can elevate a receiver if they can catch a 40 yard rope. Early on Allen's range made the field huge for a guy like Gabe Davis and allowed him to really press coverage deep and then comeback to huge open spaces that CB's weren't used to having to defend. Aided Diggs greatly as well. But that gave a false read on Davis' potential. Coverage adapted to his limited route tree, exposed his inability to catch contested passes etc.. Not having players who can take advantage of Allen's rather unique arm talent makes Allen less special as a passer. That's what we saw last season.......he just covered for it by running the ball to keep the chains moving. What Shakir does well translates more to the league in general than what Davis can do but it's also stuff that maybe a Brock Purdy could do just as well or better than Allen. If Shakir could add the ability to track and catch those low trajectory, high rpm deep throws that would make him far more valuable to the Bills. As it stands the Bills don't really have ANY WR that can help them take advantage of Allen's arm talent.

The highlighted is not what I said. I said when he was tried deep he was a ball dropper in the 2022 season/postseason. The drop of the wide open bomb in the WC game versus Miami was brutal. The concerns about his hands after 4 drops on just 27 targets grew from there when he had a really bad training camp. And given the great hype, people were shocked to consider he could already be on the bubble going into year 2. The Bills did a good job of keeping his throws short to intermediate this year. They just asked him to do what he was good at. That's how you get the most out of players with limitations. As for what I mean about stopping his feet on DEEP throws..........it's basically the "can you walk and chew gum at the same time" thing with receivers. Some can track the deep ball and catch it in stride.........others like Shakir have to stop their feet or jump so they can just focus on catching the ball. On short to intermediate throws Shakir is good at catching the ball and doing it in stride....... but doing it on the deep ball is an aspect that separates those with the highest ceiling from the rest and something you definitely want from an outside receiver.

I will add that there was A LOT of hype in general about the Shakir pick back in 2022. Like I said, we had people on TSW go so far as drawing comps to Stef Diggs. A lot was EXPECTED.

The other issue I have with Shakir outside is that there is no indication that he can track the ball well enough to threaten teams vertically. He's fast enough but guys who track the ball well catch the ball 40 yards down the field with an ease that's not much different than how they do it 15 yards down the field. In limited opportunities he's been a ball dropper and I think I saw one time on his college tape where he actually caught a deep ball in stride. He likes to stop his feet on longer throws. I am certain if I can see that he knows it and maybe that's something he can improve but it's a weakness, IMO.

Oh I think he made defenses change what they wanted to do. No doubt. But the problem was that his finesse style didn't translate well to the postseason clutching and grabbing. There is a reason that Travis Kelce averages 15 yards per game more and has almost twice the TD production per game in the playoffs versus the regular season despite the Chiefs offense scoring less in general. His game translates to flag-less football. Diggs game goes the opposite direction, less yardage and less TD/game.

They would have drafted Mahomes, IMO. But Rex was pretty checked out. He gave Pegula an ultimatum because he didn't want to coach. The NY job burned him out he just took what was then a massive contract to be the Bills HC. Anthony Lynn would have been the HC for Mahomes rookie year, most likely.

Gilmore hurt because they got NOTHING for him and it was basically a certainty that he would be excellent and win a SB with NE. The Watkins trade was demoralizing because they had had a very good scoring offense that also lead the NFL in big plays in both 2015 and 2016..........and the Watkins trade basically guaranteed that they were going back to the stone age offensively. I can't unsee those horrible 2017 and 2018 offenses. Just disgusting terrible football.

Anybody who juggles two women by putting them up in the same hotel for Valentine's Day has suspect character. He's a real, unapologetic self-indulgent lizard brain type. To expect him to not let the leverage he has in his business relationship compromise his behavior is a leap of faith. Not saying he's a criminal by any means, just that he isn't trustworthy unless you have the leverage on him.

He will be on his best behavior until he gets a new deal. This deal puts him on notice because his guarantees are now gone. He was fine in Buffalo until he got the extension. It's human nature. Like getting paid up front to do a job. The eye tends to wander toward what's next. That's where the quality of character comes in and unfortunately Diggs doesn't have much of that.

The talent might have been real 5 years ago but it's safe to say after 3 serious injuries he isn't going to be running any 4.3's again. He has less career carries than Ty Johnson and but is probably washed. Reminds me of the Leonard Fournette fascination.......didn't matter what common sense should have told some Bills fans, they had to see it for themselves.

Agree. I have been envisioning this trade since all the smoke started around the Pro Bowl and felt Beane would have to get very creative to swing this deal. It would perhaps involve Diggs not being able to report to the Texans until June and the Bills trading a future #1 pick(say 2026) as a place holder for a current Texans day 2 pick(s). Then flipping Diggs to get that future Bills pick back in June when they had the cap space to make a deal. They kinda' need that 2nd or 3rd round pick NOW to maneuver for the now multiple WR's they want/need.

George Fant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Fant_(American_football) Fant was a decent college basketball player who had no NBA future........he joined the football team for his senior year at Western Kentucky and appeared briefly in 2 games as a TE. 2 years later he was the starting LT for the Seahawks. He is heading into year 8 of his career.

1) The problem is that he has played in only 24 of 67 potential regular season games in his NFL career.........and left a bunch of those injured, not to return. Among the very best? IS he though? He had some exceptional ypc in Greg Roman's offense but we witnessed a fading Shady and journeymen Karlos and Gilleslee all feast with league high type ypc figures under Roman. Personally, I think there is every reason to expect JK Dobbins to be washed after that myriad of injuries..........but even if you feel he's good to go you gotta' start by adjusting his ypc down about 20%. Look at Gus Edwards last year. Gus went from averaging over 5 yards per carry for his career under Roman to a sub-league-average 4.1.

People and their RB draft crushes. Dude is always hurt.

Yeah the internet killed April Fools Day thing. Now EVERY day has an inordinate amount of fake stories to sift thru. It has to be very amusing to be worth it.......the bar is set much too high for those not-clever people to reach.

I'm guessing this is addressed to me? He was an entitled 5 star safety recruit who was overrated athletically and lacked instincts. As a result he always seemed to arrive a tick too late to make a play and then out of frustration he would routinely deliver late hits and commit personal fouls and double down on his ineffectiveness. One of those knuckleheads who drove fans and coaches nuts. Reminds me a lot of Nigel Bradham.......5 star overhyped recruit turned day 3 pick.........who wasn't very smart, wouldn't fit in this defense at all now and was a frustrating sh!t show to witness when he had to play his first 2 years with the Bills.

His instincts and attitude are so poor that radar can't detect him.

Nice start to season with sweep in Houston. Soto and Whereswaldo had big series' and bullpen and defense were excellent. https://www.mlb.com/yankees https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39848939/juan-soto-rbi-single-9th-gives-yankees-sweep-astros

Bad HC. Bad OC. Tired old QB.

Why would you do all that arguing over semantics? It IS the norm for big business to gouge customers for whatever the market will bear. It IS also the norm for big business to exploit and manipulate government........in ways ranging from skillfully avoiding taxes to benefiting directly from their application and WELL beyond. Your are far too concerned with the tactics when it's all the same strategy. If you are "not arguing against" PSL's..........why is the distinction of tactics so important to you?