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So let me get this straight: If TJ becomes a good player and then they are able to draft a qb who has differentiated himself from the pack - that is a bad thing? Every year has kirk cousins, nick foles, and russell wilson's and next year is no different. The Bills are giving Fitz a chance here (whether you agree or not) and have vy in the wings if fitz falters/gets hurt. Why would it be a bad thing to use a first or second on a qb this year? I have felt since the end of the draft this year that will happen. The lines are solid and the depth has been added next year the qb of the future will be added.

I do hold Packer's fans in high regard without numbers. I think the way that team is run with the shares and the sense of community are something all sports teams should follow. They don't strike me as a sports is a business sports is about winning organization and I love that. As for the Steeler's they have had a long long stretch of competitiveness/superiority that other teams (yes us) could only dream of. I'm a Lakers fan in basketball and believe me it's very easy to be passionate/supportive of them, the Bills? It takes much more

One of my favorites is Wiltson as in Ralph Wiltson. I have no idea why a t gets put in there but it annoys me (more than it should)

in addition to. 53 plus I believe 8 practice squad players

I must be extra agreeable today because I agree with everything your saying. However I wonder how much the extended success has to do with their passion. If these same fans were treated with a 12 year drought would they react the same? I don't think the Bills have the best fans in the NFL but I think they do have great fans. I heard an interesting bit on the Colin Cowherd show where he blasted fans of poor teams for continuing to be fans. His stance was that by leaving/not attending fans would force their teams into being more competitive. It was interesting to me because of the hostage situation Bills fans find themselves in. The regionalization and selling of games/no promise of future location forces Bills fans to accept whatever is put out on the field - and we do. The fans here have followed through a ton of poor seasons, personnel decisions, heartbreak, and a general laughingstock connotation of their favorite team. I know you are on of these people and I applaud you for it but there are so many more that also are excellent fans. I also though, don't blame fans that are wary or apprehensive about the Bills and the moves they make - it doesn't make them less of a fan (just a more annoying one) after all this has been the longest suffering any fan of any team in the NFL is enduring (including the Browns, Lions, and Bengals). To wrap it all up I'll bring it back to where I started. Would Steelers and Packers fans be as loyal and driven as they are now facing the situation Bills fans are in? I also would like to see the early 90's example of attendance not be used an example anymore for two reasons 1. The NFL was not anywhere near the cultural phenomenon then that is now. Popularity for this league is at an all time high and 2. That was 20 years ago! Your point of the games being the cheapest and forced on the other fans stands as 100% correct. The only thing I can say is this was a promised reprieve that was yanked from the fans. It was almost a nice little tradeoff of hey I know we stole a game that counts but to help you out we are going to take one that doesn't count too. It was a carrot that was dangled and then yanked with the reasoning being a lie (scheduling conflict). I know you can understand how that would be upsetting.

In danger of joining this obvious trolling session from Joe W.... I don't think it was that hard of a sell for rogers to get Brandon to take the game back. Think about it, the Bills were definitely paid in full (the 78 mill) and on top of it they get a game back. The Bills make all of the money from ticket sales/season tickets, concessions, and parking. So as beerme stated it is a dick move and I have to agree with Joe W that is a screw job but I also think it was a great business move which means I also agree with you ptr. Not sure how I agreed with people that are arguing different things but I think I just did As an aside I think it is unfair to call steelers fans real fans bc they want to go to a preseason game. There are so many threads dedicated to how the Bills don't treat them as anything more than a practice. I can see it being upsetting to people that pay full price for these tickets. I hated having to pay for preseason, and the lie that was put out (a scheduling conflict) I can see upsetting people. That said I respect Brandon's game as CEO he has done a tremendous job (for ralph - but hey that's who signs the checks )

All I want to know is.... Was the game plan vanilla? :bag

At least he is getting a free education? Wow that's a tough beeak

First the reason your hate for them has dropped is because they have been just as bad as we have. The pats and jets have given it to the bills while the fins have (save for 1 year) been mired in the same mediocrity the bills have. It's not much of a rivalry because both teams have been so bad I guess is what I mean. Now reasons to hate them: Their stupid colors. So many women and kids become fins fans bc of the color scheme. The seventies. The old timers hold near and dear to this reason and I can't really blame them. The wildcat. I don't personally hate it but many people do and you can blame them for bringing it to the nfl (although lee is now with the bills) The perfect season. Hey were human we can be jealous asses - especially when it comes to sports! Super bowl wins - see above lol Cameron wake. Although I don't know anything about him personality wise he scorned the bills for the fins and has been a monster. This is a start. I'm sure if you need more I can add some others for you :-)

If I recall it was because it was a duty he performed as the backup and when he got elevated to starter they didn't want to mess with the kickers mojo. Edit: btw that "idiot coach" was bill parcells

I'm kinda surprised we are this deep in the thread and nobody has mentioned that the play develops much faster on a direct snap. The mismatch and extra blocker are both excellent reasons but taking out the handoff and starting the "qb"(rb) a couple of yards closer increases the speed of the play development and decreases the defenses reaction time.

Guess it IS bad luck to see the bride the day of the wedding!

"guys like us"?! You mean the people who's opinion means little to nothing? What could be the misinterpretation? That Stevie wants them to expect to be a winner? Didn't chan say before last year that he expects to win every game? How did "guys like you" misinterpret this/that?

Let's go buffalo! On my honeymoon until tomorrow so I can't watch the game... Anyone know if they are rebroadcasting in the Syracuse market tomorrow?

So as an update... Tomorrow is the wedding and I've got bronchitis. I'm getting over it and hope I'll be in good shape tomorrow. We settled on I won't give up by Jason mraz which is an awesome song that I eventually (after we picked it) is about him fighting off suicidal thoughts lol. Went with liquor for the wedding party and got them all something they would like; some johnnie walker, some jack, a bottle of Hendricks gin, and a nice merlot for the non liquor drinker. As for the advice thanks all. Some good some bad and at this point I'm sick of others advice lol. Can't wait to do the wedding and be on the honeymoon!

I always liked: Nice shoes want to f@&k?

Rich Gannon would like to say hello.

Man I can't wait for her career to tailspin so we can get a leaked sex tape

One of my friends on fb made this same comment as well. Maybe the waves/splash from other swimmers slows them down? I'll ask and see if I get a response that will clear it up.

I don't know it seems like they got the right apt to me

A bit but I'm not sure I'll be heading to the theaters for it. Seems like a movie that will need to be watched a couple of times to figure it out - especially since the Wachowski brothers are involved. On an aside I think it's funny the trailer both before and after pushes the step up revolution trailer as epic I wonder how many times I would have to watch that one to figure it out

You're a beaner towel!

Pretty good list... I'll go 1. Offense 2. Defense 3. Special teams

:lol: well played sir. Indeed I am only 8 days away from that For you I'll go with a not anytime in the near future... or ever!