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get the papers. the papers.

Just Jack nailed it on the head. Add to the fact that she thought you would just stick around and this piece of advice... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYHL6AYAwQU If it was implied It is all a lie it's not what they say it's what they don't say

wow. Not a single person on this board can be called a fair weather fan. To still be here after 12 years of futility is a testament. Being fed up is a fan's right. I would say the bad fans are the ones that aren't mad right now. Not caring about this product that is put on the field is what has allowed the team to be so poor for so long. Unfortunately they (think they ) have us by the balls and most fans do to. If we don't buy tickets/merchandise then sure they might move. However continuing to support this mickey mouse team means they will continue to not care about w's - because we don't. Fans want a team - Fans should be demanding a competitive team. Of all the blame to go around some of it does fall on the fans for continuing to support such a poorly run franchise (not from a business standpoint from a competition standpoint) It was proven the last 2 weeks how far the Bills are from being a championship contender. Those 2 teams are the class of the nfl and ran the Bills out of the stadium. It's not just that they were bad losses it's that the Bills were supposed to fight and put up a fight against these teams. Not lay down and die. I left your score in their as an indication that you too are feeling it. Each week your score gets lower and lower. I do agree with your relocation comment. I think it is just hostage taking at its finest. Float the idea and fans will come out bc they are scared to lose their team. You know what usually I do. Every Sunday when I wake up I'm convinced the Bills will somehow pull it off. Yesterday? I couldn't have cared less. When I woke up and called to put in my bets I almost bet against the Bills (smart money lately). Couldn't bring myself to do it of course, but I also couldn't get excited for the game. I knew all week and yesterday that they would lose and lose bad. The Bills have sapped the fun out of Sundays for me . I'm a very big Polyanna for this team and I'm over it.

It got vetoed by the league in under 3 hours lol

I thought the same thing! After seeing the comments and the article headline I gotta say I was disappointed. Not bad but not even the top 10 of teachers that have done this. Yes I would btw lol

This whole thing annoys me. It was one guy. Chick fil a didn't send out a press release saying of your gay you can't eat here. One guy gave his opinion - one he is allowed to have.

Wow I came here to start a playoffs thread just for this reason. My sister is a huge braves fan and all I could text her was "now you know what it's like to be a bills fan". Indefensibly bad call. Edit: kd that was a perfectly legit response by those fans IMO.

If/when they win it I'll change my tune. I also said in the post that you quoted that they needed to build an all time d. While the niners isn't all time I think most would agree it is tops or #2 (depending on how you feel about the Texans). The Bills don't have that. For the record I would take Alex Smith over Fitz as well. Ponder has been excellent this year. 68% completion and 0 picks on the year (only qb in NFL with 0 picks). I agree with your last statement but counter with does the number actually matter? He is lower tier regardless of what trivial number ends up on him.

Just Jack the Weedsport Raceway is a great place to catch a race. Very small with a chance to meet drivers (if you have kids). I didn't realize they were closed and think it may only be closed for that race series.

That was awesome!!! Multiple out loud laughs! Thanks for posting

This is definitely the bane of our existence. The bottom never quite falls out or doesn't fall out enough to let us get lucky with one of the players that would help. Sweet all we need to do now is build an all time great d! I know it wasn't that long ago but it is a completely different era in the NFL. The league is more qb driven than ever before.

Who would you put higher?! As Mark Twain said "There are 3 kinds of lies; lies, damn lies, and statitstics. What do your eyeballs tell you? Mine tell me that Fitz is very limited and not improving. I haven't seen much of Tanny but he has received glowing reviews from more than just Jaws. Check out this link if you want stats to backup what Jaws is saying. He had them competitive against the Jets (should have won the game twice but Carpenter missed fgs each time) and Cards with a team that many projected to have the worst record in football this year. Damn you for making me defend a Fins player , but come on man how much of Tannehill have you seen? And what have you seen from Fitz (besides some stats) that makes you think he's good?

I voted not sure because quite frankly I'm not sure. Could be Fitz has lost the confidence of the D to help them out or worse yet his o team mates to get them the ball where they can either catch it or catch it and not get killed. Could be Wanny who has lost the D. His lack of presence on the sidelines bugs me to no end as well as his lack of adjustments/ poor scheming. Could be Gailey, lets face it his record as hc is abysmal and was outdone by the immortal Dickless Jauron, his teams are physically dominated to the point that the Jets let it be known through the media that their goal is to physically intimidate the Bills or Brady being seen calling them b*tches. Could be any or all of these things. It will be interesting to see how they handle this stretch coming up and more importantly how they handle the whooping they just took as they head into face a very tough and physical niners team.

Every team gets the aerial shots of the schemes after each drive. The qb is handed a bunch of photos and that is what he is seeing - the defensive alignment. Also I wouldn't discount the effect getting into someone can have. A little bump/motivation/angering of a d that looks at times passionless would be a GREAT thing! Yes sir! I believe you have hit the nail on the head! At times we have seen K Williams and Dareus firing up the troops but it doesn't seem consistent. Against the Brown's K Williams was firing into the o-line hard. I didn't see that same thing against the Pats*. Strategizing and motivating are 2 things that can be accomplished on the field and not from the booth, and they are 2 HUGE roles of the D coordinator.

But but but he leads the NFL in tds! Say what you will about Jaws on MNF but as an analyst (especially qbs) he is excellent. He watches and breaks down a ton of film. Not sure if the show is still on but Edge NFL Match up with him and Merril Hodge was a very good show with lots of tape breakdowns. As for the actual number attached it is meaningless. Where he has him ranked (bottom third) is what is important. Sure he feasted on Chiefs and Browns (without Haden) Defenses but when faced against a real one he struggled. Badly. You can argue a few spots here and there but the point is he is not good enough. To win in or even make the playoffs your qb needs to be at least adequate (read don't screw it up) against good d's.

Never ever ever (extra one for emphasis) bench gronk!

:worthy: :worthy: we're not worthy!!!!

Hey I was 9 or 10 at the time and have 2 older sisters I'm lucky it wasn't New Kids on the Block . Your "first cd" story is much cooler than mine but I still get a kick out of hearing after the rain and show me the way. After doing much thinking it was the christmas right before the gulf war and super bowl 25 so I would have been 9 years old. After the Rain cd was heavy music to me then

Not for nothing but at the start of last year RG3 was nowhere near a clear cut top prospect. I believe he was rated as a 3rd rounder with some "experts" predicting he would need to move to wr.

The bolded is what is missing from this team. Anger or an emotion period is what helps teams be tough. Gailey had the nerve to question his player's mental toughness when I will question his. Wannstache in the box?! Get on the sideline and get in the player's *sses! Belicheat would not have stood for what happened to the Bills D in the second half he would have gone bananas and I respect him for that. One of my friends refers to our coach as Grandpa Gailey and I like the moniker. Care dammit! He does well on O - he really does especially if you look at the tools he is given, but being a hc he needs to care about the D not pass it off on Wanny and be hands off. Belicheat runs a tight ship where EVERYONE is accountable to him that is what we are lacking. As for the OP - turn him into a game manager while constantly looking for an upgrade. Pats* draft a qb regularly and either turn him into trade bait or wait out his usefulness while some other draft pick develops and takes their job. Why on earth anyone thought Thiggy was good or serviceable (he was the Phins 3rd string qb before Buffalo - think about that!) or better than taking a late flyer I will never understand. Yeah yeah he had limited (very limited) success with Gailey in KC but it was years before he came to B-lo and it had already been established he wasn't a starting qb. Man I got way more heated typing this than I thought I would

I'd say: "hey mind if I give it a shot?" Few nuggets of what my moves would look like: Never in a million years would have let Pat Williams/Antoine Winfield walk Would have stayed away from Losman (loss is in the pronunciation of his name!) Gone Leinart over Whitner (hey we can't all be perfect!) Gone Orakpo over Maybin Kept Greer over McGee Of course hindsight is 20/20 (well minus the Leinart move) but I have to imagine I could do at least as well as the past few regimes - I can build a team that misses the playoffs for 12 straight years too (if not hopefully better)

and yet we hardly knew ye... I remember my first 2 cds I got for christmas one year; Nelson - After the Rain and Styx - Edge of the Century Now it's music through my iphone and mp3 cds in my car.

Completed the trade finally after much haggling what do you think? PPR/keeper league gave: forte got: rg3, Andre Brown (handcuff as I already have Bradshaw) I know preseason he got the best of me but in the league RG3 is the top point scorer and now I have a rb no matter if Bradshaw goes down or not. How do you think I did? Currently trying to package Stafford/Mendenhall to a qb needy team for LeSean McCoy

Have to keep trying for the pure ad simple fact that it is known that fitz isn't the answer. It doesn't matter if they fail 100 times trying to find the right qb (already feels like that doesn't it ) if you hit on the 101st time you have an answer for 10 years. Not all qbs that come out in the draft are high risk either. In the last few years Matt Ryan and Andrew Luck were 2 that come to mind as having little to no bust potential. Add to the fact that any pick at any position can be a bust (Maybin). This is a position that can not and should not be ignored anymore in the draft. Scared money don't make money!