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Stop yelling at hindsight!

I'm holding out hope that they fire him after tomorrows game. I honestly don't get why/how he hasn't been axed yet.

Well he was traded in 2007 so I don't know if that is before or after these "rule" change. I don't know how you come to your conclusion about Schaub though. He is borderline top 10 at best and falls just outside it for me when I listed qbs. As for Fitz I think (at least for me) it isn't so much that I think he is good, as much as I think the mess around him has made him worse. If he were to switch places with Schaub or Alex Smith do you think the Texans or Niners would suffer? Better yet do you think the Bills would be better? The Defense has not given the Offense any chance to shine. Believe me I was mad about the picks against Tenn and against the Pats, but both of those came in games where Fitz led the team to 30+ points. This to some of us puts the blame squarely on the D. I am still for drafting a qb in the first but have cooled on the idea of giving up the farm to move up. I don't think Barkley is as bad as people are making him out to be but he may be at our pick in the middle of the round. After the circus that is the predraft process I doubt it though. Smith scares me bc I watched him live and a.) wasn't impressed (although it was last year) and b.) he has an aloofness that scares me. The no brainer qb pick isn't there this year so I think I am good staying put and getting a guy to develop behind/push Fitz/take over in this draft. The D is just such a mess that giving up picks is dangerous. By my estimation they need 3 lbs, at least 1 cb, and some d line depth. That is 5 picks plus qb makes 6 plus the one given up for tjax and that is our draft. I just hope I remember in the off season how far away I know they are and don't get drunk on the kool aid (again )

Thank you! The receiving corps is actually fairly decent. Not the huge need we (or at least I) thought coming into this year. Some depth still wouldn't be a bad thing but they are very solid at the top. Nelson has been spectacular!

I really hope this is the case. Is there a way to set up the rankings to select 2 qbs but just not consecutively? If the team did go lb then qb in rounds 1 and 2 maybe get another qb in 5 or 6.

Because they got to play against THE WORST DEFENSE in the NFL! I'm with the OP. Fitz has been playing good enough to win in the majority of our games. The Defense has played good enough to win in 3 of them. Surprise surprise our record is 3-6. I have been a Fitz basher, and believe me I don't think he is a savior by any means, but he is not the glaring problem right now. The lbs and the scheme are!

P2 LB - the single biggest need is some help for the front 7. 3 new lbs wouldn't bother me at this point P2 QB - I swear I have been as against Fitz as the next guy but he has played well for long stretches this year. Yesterday he played great. QB is a need but not a must have with the first pick to me if a stud lb is there (T'eo). P3 - CB sad but we still need some WR I actually think the corps is decent but you can never have to many P4 - all other positions. While we have some good players in spots depth is still not quite where it needs to be. P4 -

The second one was within the 5 yards allowed. Wow bring bag the replacement refs :bag

Today will be the day we look back at and think that's when they started to turn it around. That was the game that started the magical run. When all hope was lost and despair was all around veterans day weekend 2012 the bills were warriors! Let's go bills!

That's awesome! I'm going to have to try that one haha. Good luck out there today!

Yea they can and I'll be rooting for it!

I'm excited to see more of moore. I think he has shown some flashes as well as passion. Any news on who new England's inactives are?

sarcasm meter might be broken gug

It actually seemed like he and scoop had a good relationship. One that was relied on from time to time to help with Waiters. Please don't mistake my post (not sure if you even are) I think he is an amazing coach I just didn't realize what a no-nonsense hard ass he was until I saw them play live. Paul Harris on the other hand... didn't seem like such a warm relationship.

This is turning into the MDP dating thread except now it is find hindsight a job!

Good for him. This was sham from the start. Now I hope ESPN spends as much time apologizing for dragging his name through the mud as they did trying to get everyone to move off of the Penn St scandal. This was a blatant lie from the beginning much like the Duke lacrosse rape case. I wish he could get his job back to really make amends and start the healing for him but that isn't anything more than a pipe dream.

Boy Coleman looks good. I do worry that he lets people by so he can get a block but it's preseason and he has some maturing so I'm not to concerned yet. As for the Noel story, I was amazed about 5-6 years ago I finally started having enough money to not sit in the 300s and to see Boeheim's interactions with his players, he's kind of a dick lol. He is non stop yelling sometimes to the point of stomping his feet. Seems that some players end up in the dog house and have a very hard time working out of it. That said he is a great coach I just was taken aback from his mannerisms as I never had noticed. My perspective really changed when I could see what I wanted and not what the cameras showed. Now I attend at least 10 games a year bc it is so much better than tv!

I hadn't even thought of that! Actually I am in the class of a great QB can mask many deficiencies of a d. So yeah I think he would help out more than a little bit. The D would still be a mess but the O would control the ball and clock allowing less opportunities. Also don't discount the D being more hyped when they are hopeful that the O won't just go 3 and out. Teams need to feel like the other side of the ball has a chance of success to thrive.

No but they have grabbed Hoyer, Mallet, and Cassel in recent years (one more guy who I can't remember right now too). Point being Buddy took Levi Brown and mentioned how they should be trying every year to take a flier and then just stopped. I don't mind a 6th/7th on a qb every year. Most of those picks get cut anyway so there is not much risk involved and the reward could be either a trade piece or a center piece both nice rewards.

Not cheap shots but aggressiveness on both sides of the ball. I think all of these character guys are too nice. Wilfork is not a nice guy. Mayo is not a nice guy. Ray Lewis is not a nice guy. Ndamakon Suh is not a nice guy. I want someone that wants to dominate the guy across from them and "put the wood on them." It's why the Jets dominate the Bills and a big part of the Bills struggles. They aren't aggressive enough. Late hits with in reason I'm okay with (extra step). Cheap shots I'm not. I don't honestly care about football enough to want to see someone get permanently hurt (although I could console Giselle if need be). I think the op's (misguided) point is that we need toughness. Toughness and dirtiness are 2 different things though.

Actually they got all 3. Elway just refused to come to them. Maybe there is something to be said about that horseshoe on their helmet...

Which to me is even more reason to start trying while they still have a competent player. Brady covers a lot of weaknesses so they can afford to do what they have been - taking a qb every year or so and hoping he turns out to be their heir apparent. It's what good franchises do.... (not get caught with their pants down when their superstar retires)

Or the roughing the qb on his int. I hate when it's clear like this but golden boy vs lowly scrub team it's to be expected. (sound familiar?)

Or you just believe that the fact that many people believe changes its true nature. Just because it is popular doesn't mean it isn't hate based. At one point in time segregation was acceptable and probably the popular idea does that mean its basis is not hate? Read my original post again. To many their policies comes off as anti-woman, anti-immigrant, anti-poor, and anti-minority. You don't have to like it or even agree with it but it was demonstrated in the election that the Republicans need to do some restrategizing if they hope to be successful in the future. Maybe Rob puts it more eloquently than me

I have asked this question multiple times in this thread and once in the shout box. I'm still waiting for my answer. Well as long as you know that Seriously though, I think everyone is in agreement (or should be) that Obama inherited an absolute mess of a country. To think he could solve all of the issues facing our nation in one term is ludicrous. Now he has an opportunity to really do work as he doesn't have to worry about re-election. I am excited to think of the possibilities of what he can accomplish. Meanwhile Republicans are running around saying the world will end because he has 4 more years. If we can survive 8 years of Bush we certainly can survive 8 years of Obama.