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YES!!!!!! come on McRib season!

Nutmeg? I don't follow lol The little girl was creepy and I loved the kitchen convo between her and the devil. The only thing I thought is wouldn't someone connect that she killed that other little girl and her family because she gave the same exact story?

from the article: Wilson has done some good things for Buffalo. The Bills have been great for this community. He kept them here when he could have moved them. It's true, but that shouldn't equate to a free pass or lowered standards. Simply having an NFL team in town isn't enough unless you're a sucker and looking for a copout. You realize you went back 48 and 20 years respectively to defend Wilson right? He wasn't overly harsh or critical in this article, see my quote above. He spoke a lot of truth. People really need to stop harping on the press that writes things like this. As painful as they are to see they are more accurate then inaccurate. All of the vitriol every time they write something negative and never a hey they got that one right. Hey he got this one right. Just because Wilson is old and been the owner forever it does not excuse the sub standard product he has delivered. Do I respect and appreciate him? You bet I do. Do I think he is to blame for many of these teams woes? You bet I do. Why is he free from criticism for you?

This analysis is wide right.

He doesn't have a choice. He goes on waivers.

I disagree with most of this post. Teo is good but there have been many players that offenses avoid and some even this year. It has to be manzel. His numbers are better than cam and tebows heirs man years. I think the stigma is off freshman winning or even voting for them. As for ball I would be surprised if he even gets a ny invite. This year hasn't been as good as last year. I think the invitees are Klein, teo, manzel, smith, and perhaps the USC wr woods.

Who doesn't think this guy ends up on the Patriots*?

Is anyone still watching this? It is getting intense! who called on bloodyface's behalf? It is 50 years later it can't still be the same guy can it?!

I actually do ref high school sports and in no way think that I am as good or could do as good as these pro refs. All I expect is consistency from team to team and game to game. It doesn't happen.

Yes already. We shall see after the game if it was a useful or useless topic. Hopefully it's useless but I have become extremely jaded to this league being at all fair. It isn't only the bills i see getting screwed. The nfl has lost a ton of credibility with me this year.

Over under for this game I'm putting at 1.5 questionable calls favoring the colts today. A loss by the colts would cool some of the golden boy talk and the nfl can't have that. I'm thinking the refs will step in an help insure a colts w. I'd love to be wrong but the nfl refereeing has been terrible and terribly suspect this year. So I'll take the over what say you?

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I hate your logic of it happening in the third quarter and thus not having an effect on the outcome. That was a huge momentum shift as well as very deflating to the lions team. As for the refs- a block in the back on megatron that was phantom, as well as a phantom hold on the same drive. I stand by the Andre Johnson catch being a non catch because he didn't complete it as he went to the ground (unless I missed something and someone can correct me), and in at least 2 times where I thought pi should have been called against the texans and I just got that feeling. It just didn't feel like the calls were even and it is a disturbing trend in the league lately.

Question on that Andre Johnson catch they reviewed. Doesn't he have to complete the catch as he goes to the ground? I thought it should have been ruled an incomplete because of that. As an unbiased observer the refs clearly favored Houston in this game. Reason? I have none but it appeared fairly obvious at least to me.

Especially the prospects they hype out of nowhere. Gabbert comes to mind in this mold. Unfortunately so does Gilmore but hey they've got to be right some of the time too! (I hope )

Please read this...

? Mypoint in this thread was to dispel a popular tbd myth. As some have laid out (that actually contributed to the thread) there was much more to it than the Bills choked against 3rd stringers and blew their chance. I don't think it's making excuses.

Best thing he has done is re-sign players. In years past Stevie would have left, chandler would be gone, anyone that showed anything in the nfl gone. I also like how active the bills are on the waiver wire. Urbik, pears, and chandler have benefited the bills this route. Lastly I love that they cut bait with players that can't produce. Cutting Trent was ballsy and so was trading lee Evans. The record may not reflect the improvements of the bills but the roster is clearly improved since Buddy took over.

Safest pick in the draft the year he came out....

What makes me skeptical of him (Orange fan too btw) is he reminds me a lot of Trent. He does an awful lot of checking down or at least I thought so before this year. Secondly he is a qb at cuse. That in itself makes me skeptical. That said before this year I didn't think he was a pro qb. After watching him I have changed my tune. I don't know if he can compete in crazy conditions but in the dome he is amazing. The Louisville game he threw darts everywhere all over the field against a top 10 team. He also exploded earlier in the year (Northwestern), played well against a top D (USC), and has had a qb rating over 100 in each game this year. He is deserving of a mid round flier. Somewhere in the 3-4-5 range. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see him end up in New Orleans. Marrone coached for them before coming to Cuse and may recommend him. At the very least an apprenticeship behind Brees can't hurt.

I agree that they blew it. I just don't agree with the assessment of the steelers talent level. Tommy Maddox went 12-24 for 120 yards 1 td and 2 int. He didn't beat us but a super bowl foundation D and a top flight rb (even though they weren't thought of as that at the time) beat the Bills. As for not needing the game that is almost irrelevant to me. The backups that they played wanted that game. They didn't go in to that game to lay down. They went in with something to prove and unfortunately most of them did. He did get some garbage time but the majority of the game was Maddox.

In the Bills are not out of it thread and across this board in general I keep running into this comment: The Bills just had to beat the Steelers backups and get in. This much is true. What I can't stand is the routine reference to it being their third stringers and nobodies. While it was the Steelers backups at the time many of those players went on to have great careers for Pittsburgh. Case in point: the no name rb who torched the Bills that day? Fast Willie Parker who before injuries ended his career was a great #1 back for them. Who led their receiving corps? Antwaan Randle-el who was instrumental in a sb win before leaving for greener pastures. Hines Ward and Deuce Staley also saw action in this game. As for defense you know who was on the field because he was a backup? James Harrison who actually scored on a fumble return. Troy Polamalu added a sack. Brett Kiesel, Kendrell Bell, and Ike Taylor all who were instrumental in super bowl runs for the steelers were "backups and nobodies" on this team. Add in the contributions of James Farrior and Larry Foote (yes many starters did play in this game for Pitt) and it was hardly a scrub team. The team those 04 Bills lost too had incredible depth. Many of those "bench" players went on to have great careers in this league, some may even end up in the hall of fame. Lastly, that Steelers team was 14-1 going into that game. They had run over and through the entire NFL with a rookie QB. Big Ben was okay that year but was basically asked to hand off the ball and ride the bus to victories. That team was very very good. So for the love of god can we please put to rest the myth of the Bills blowing it against bums? They had an opportunity against a team that had clinched and blew it but the team they lost to certainly was not comprised of bums. Game Stats Depth Chart

Except I don't think he/she ever does post or add anything to the conversation. It generally is the link only with no insight or opinion added by the op. As I stated earlier I browse from my phone and some of the loading times are annoying at best. Also why can't it be the link and a blurb. If we are intrigued or interested then we can click on the link. It seems easy enough to do as well as just being polite (imo)

1. Wanny - I wonder how much he had to do with the defense last year. In a bad way. 2. LB corp - honestly is there a worse group of lbs in the league? I put a lot of the defensives truggles on these 2 factors. 3. Gailey - play calling aside - leaving half the team to the coordinator is disgusting. I think he really is an offensive genius. What he has accomplished with a so-so receiving corp and Fitz has been impressive, the lack of adjustments/involvement in the D - not so much. 4. High priced DE acquisitions - Mario is rounding into form and Anderson is hurt so this may change by the end of the season, but I was dreaming of pass rush explosion! Brady being scared to face the Bills instead of calling them "his B word" 5. Front Office - I don't think it would have been knee jerk to fire Wanny. My fear is that with the easy schedule coming up the D will look good not because they have improved jut that their opponents are worse. This will lead to Wannstache getting to stick around another year.

Of course he's better than Dilfer but does that mean he doesn't play the same role?