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I don't think it is impossible for him to drive down the field just improbable. With the limitations of the line and the ferociousness of the pass rush there was going to be no time for the long throws that were necessary for the drive. It isn't the drives Fitz had as you stated it was the play calling Chan had. In the 4th quarter before the lead change the Bills had 3 drives that should have gone run run run. They didn't 1) run, run, run (pass play called), pass 2) run, pass, pass 3) run, run, pass. 3 times Chan didn't do what he should have and that is his fault. Do you know why he couldn't do what he was supposed to? 1) he was dumb and kept running Freddy leaving CJ on the sideline - his fault and 2) the o-line got no push and those runs went for 14, -1, 1, 3, 1, -1, and 2 yards. This was the time to grind out the victory and the o-line couldn't do it. The Bills should have won yesterday but the game should have never come down to a last second drive. There should have been urgency to score a td at the half, there should have been a fg attempt instead of a punt, and for the love of god the D needs a stop when it counts (not at all there fault - holding a team to 15 should get the w but still frustrating). There is so much that goes into losing it isn't just 1 drive.

He was part of pti's 5 good minutes and they asked him about never being a hc. He looked genuinely sad and had no answer for why teams never looked his way. The light went on immediately and I thought I would love to see him here. I wonder if Whaley and he had a good relationship. He is a sb winning coordinator and one that Big Ben and now the Colts have had nothing but good things to say about. After the play calling debacle this year I would be happier to see him on the sidelines than Chan next year.

No I'm not giving him a pass on this loss. I know I keep falling on the defens of Fitz side but it only bc the hatred is so far out of whack. He's average. The position could do with an improvement. He is not however the worst qb in the league. I think he outplayed Bradford yesterday. He put up 9 points as you state (should have been 10 the botched pat does not fall on him) behind an absolutely terrible o-line. I've stated before and stand by it an offense needs to score at least 17 points in any game (any team) to reasonably expect to win. However the play calling gets the lion share of the blame. Up to and including taking the 3 points away and punting. Did you see Lindell's reaction? The terrible line play gets the next blame. So I guess Fitz ends up in third for me.

Yikes. I can tell this is a very sensitive subject for you. Yes we were at home. Our line was terrible yesterday. Why would it be hard to drive 60 yards in bad conditions behind a patchwork line in 50 seconds? Especially against a pass rush that had been getting to the qb all day? Jeez I have no idea. As much as you pan people for thinking they are in love with Fitz (we aren't he just isn't the worst player in the league at qb) I have to say that you are no longer thinking rationally when it comes to Fitz. To you he is THE problem and EVERYTHING is his fault. I don't get how you can't see any of the other much larger problems with this team. Namely Chan's play calling and the line. Chan decided to not kick a fg and what was the point differential? He had a pass/run ratio that was way out of whack for a game that the Bills led the majority of. When healthy the o-line plays well with Snow and Young it was horrendous. The Rams had 5 sacks and 11 hits on the qb! Any qb will be shaky behind that line.

I'll add playing behind an offensive line with 2 starters making their first ever start on the o-line. Fitz played a very efficient game. Was it outstanding? No. I can't believe though that you don't care one bit about how bad Snow and Young played. This is all on Fitz? Hardly. This is on a line that couldn't protect worth a damn. This is on Chan who refused to run the ball and give it to his best play maker. It was heartbreaking to see the pass because I knew that nobody would give Fitz any credit today. The Bills had already lost that game. There was no way they would drive down the field in 50 seconds with 0 timeouts. I love how people say anyone can do it bc the instances are far and few between. He also was hit clearly right in the shoulder as he released the ball. I won't go so far as to say he was terrible but I won't lay the blame at his feet. How did you feel about the play of the o-line yesterday? Or does it not matter to you? Yeah I think he played well but outstanding is a bit much. Between the conditions, the playcalling, and the patchwork (read terrible) o-line I think he did very well yesterday. People just can't give Fitz any credit bc to some a loss is squarely on the shoulders of a qb.

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Yeah my issue had to do with other people speaking for them. In the day and age of everyone having an advocate group couldn't Yahoo at least have contacted one to get a quote about how people were offended? My other issue is what offends people. Just because something is offensive to a certain group of people does not mean it needs to make national news. Sometimes it is a neccesity to "speak up for the little guy" or protect against injustices. This to me doesn't fit those descriptions. Of all the discrimination that Mexicans I'm sure face, sorority girls at a Halloween party probably ranks low for them. Again I ask because I really want to know: is it an existing stereotype that mexicans smoke weed? I was unaware of this.

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I actually do (the following will completely be my opinion). I spent a lot of time working with Kids after college and have seen inappropriate relationships develop. Many of these start bc the woman struggled as a teenager/young adult with identity. Maybe due to low self esteem, bullying, etc... They are now in a position of power instead of being the shy/nerdy/uncool person, so they get attention from guys who when they were in school wouldn't have given them the time of day. This fills the void that the teenage version of them still feels. This by no means makes it okay so please don't feel like that is what I'm saying. I just have seen it happened and talked to multiple people that this has happened to (inappropriate relations but never fully sexual). It is immaturity to the fullest for some. Obviously this reasoning does not fit all people in this circumstance but whenever it is a younger teacher I lean towards this being the reason. Sometimes they are just sick though. (Sometimes they are sick that I would have liked to have as teachers while I was growing up - what can I say sometimes I'm a sick )

All of this week has been devoted to qb talk and other "conversation." Forgotten is that there is a game on Sunday which could be huge for Buffalo. Can we please spend some time talking about this? My thoughts on the game: This is an interesting test for both teams. The Rams and Bills are still not mathematically eliminated from playoff positioning but they are long shots. A loss by either team ends there hopes. The Rams are 1-3-1 on the road and have given up 30 sacks this year. Both of these things bode well for the Bills. Conversely the Bills o-line has been depleted by injuries. Wood and Hairston will not be playing in this game or likely the rest of the season (Hairston already to IR). The Rams also are coming off a huge division win against the niners. Steven Jackson is getting healthy and the d-line/dbs have been very good for them this year. I'm seeing a slug fest this weekend because of the weather. The Rams are a dome team so weather may have a huge effect on them. Zeurlein has been relied on greatly for points this year and it will be interesting to see how he handles the wind in the Ralph. I'm hoping the Bills come out and run the ball straight down the Rams throat as mentioned earlier with the injuries to the line that will be difficult. I'm a homer and will be rooting for the Bills. My prediction is made with my heart and not my head but I see a 20-13 Buffalo win. Can we please discuss the game instead of Chan sucks, Fitz sucks, Wanny sucks, Ralph sucks, which retread qb should we go after? Only 2 days away and this is the first thread to talk about this game. Let's Go Buffalo!

Not by any definition of the word but I have no idea what you're driving at here. RG3 is not in this draft. There aren't any qbs in this draft that are a lock to go #1 even. How often does that happen?

This is a team I co-manage and I had the same exact thought. I told my other manager this exact thing. Now reality sets in for kc. After what will be a long week for Charles (his wife's sister was the victim) I can't imagine him playing well. It is sick to think of a game within a game this way but it is reality. I'm still very undecided tho - damn Bills have me optimistic! I actually picked up Baltimore's D right after Big Ben got hurt. They were playing 2 out of the next 3 weeks and 1 of them Atl had New Orleans (cost me a lot of points after he threw 5 picks ). They are the D I will be dropping to pick up whoever I go with bc you are correct their next 3 weeks are not good matchups.

Buftex I understand your point I just strongly disagree with it. To me racism is a negative thing (obviously) this picture does not seem to be mean spirited or mean in nature. It looks like a party. Is it poor taste? I guess so. These are college kids having a party. This is not something that should be front page top 10 searches of Yahoo. This is what bothers me. There was/is no controversy until the media made one. Was this something that needed national attention? Was this something that Mexicans see and think these stupid white girls? I have no idea bc in a story about how upsetting there was not one Mexican person who was offended listed. So it comes off as oh no people MIGHT get upset about this. It's annoying. I'm Italian and grew up with all of the guinea, whop, dego comments and they were jokes. Were they racist? I don't think so because they weren't said with ill intentions. I am left leaning and liberal in many of my thoughts but this is to far for me. I also believe strongly that racism is still very prevalent in our society. I also think that people shouldn't get their panties in a bunch over something as harmless as this pic. I feel it discounts actual racism. I understand everyone has their own scale. On the majority of people's scale (at least in this small sample size) this doesn't register. Does it make them(us) right or wrong? I have no idea. I just feel this pic shouldn't hurt peoples feelings. What happened to sticks and stones may break my bones... My complaint is the wussification of America. Where everyone's feelings are constantly hurt by someone else. What happened to us? This is what bothered me. Lastly, I get the mowing the lawn but is it really a Mexican stereotype that they all smoke weed?

South Park did a great parody of the History Channel for this reason.

This is exactly what I was going to say before I saw this post so I'll just give you one of these

Yikes. I would rule out Stevie bc Corner is actually a strength on the Rams. Add in weather and his injury and I would sit him. As for Fitzgerald it is important to see what the weather will be like as well as if there starting cbs are suspended yet or still appealing. For Jones you have to see what Jennings status as well as Nelson. If either are out this may be your play if both are out it is your play. Sorry for the non answer but I hope these are at least things to help you make your decision. Good Luck!

Another thing to do if you can hold out is wait until Sunday morning and check the weather forecasts. Bad rain/weather generally equals low points/good fantasy d games. As for the Bills they have the 2nd ranked D over the last 3 weeks so that is something to keep in mind. How about some help for my situation: Atlanta D @ Carolina Baltimore D @ Washington I'm feeling strongly Atlanta vs Carolina is the play however Cam has turned it on lately and Atl D only got 4 points last time they played. I'd like to avoid Baltimore with Suggs injury and the rg3 factor. I have a ton of options too: Buffalo vs. Rams, Jets @ Jags, Tampa Bay vs. Philly, Cleveland vs. KC, and Cincy vs. Dallas. Out of these I don't really care for Tampa Bay or Cincy as I don't like playing bad d's (tampa) or against hot teams (cowboys ). So what do you guys think?

so bad it's.... bad. It may be funny or clever but I couldn't tolerate his singing to find out.

You should just change your name to ypa is the end all be all stat I've been thinking about this stat though and I refuse to believe that ypa has nothing to do with surrounding talent. Quality rbs force the other d to put more in the box opening up passing lanes. Quality wrs clearly have an effect on this stat, the ability to get open, run after catch, and catching ability all have a great impact. Quality o-lines have an impact on giving time for a qb to go through progressions, allow for deeper routes, increase qb comfort levels. All of these things have to raise the qbs ypa. I would sincerely like to hear your feelings on these factors. I know the study blah blah blah but do the things I listed in your opinion have any effect on ypa? As for Alex Smith - I put him right on par with Fitz. Talk to any niners fan and they will tell you all the same things Bills fans bemoan about Fitz. I would also add that he is a bit of an injury risk. Including this year he has only played a full season 2 out of his 7 years in the league.

Did anyone's vote swing after the win this weekend? Now that the sample size is only 4 games and the worst they can do is 5-11? I would imagine as the sample size changes it would have to swing some of the people that voted to lose out over to the win out side but I don't have any clue what goes on in people's head anymore. The Bills are currently drafting 11th and due to a weak s.o.s are actually the first 5-7 team drafting right now. Some numbers I found interesting though for the "the Bills only beat crap teams" crowd The Falcons are 11-1 s.o.s .389. Bengals and the almighty Andy Dalton s.o.s .431. The amazing Steelers s.o.s. .472. My only point is other teams beat/play bad teams too - winning is all that matters. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME HELLO!

I was always upset that some black guy kept stealing all of Jim Kelly's lines in Enter the Dragon!

Lot of hotties there. That was my only takeaway. That and people need to stop being such p*ssies

I'd take Hindsight to the Canadian Ballet. Maybe then he could move on although not until after Christmas and Valentine's Day bc he'll have a gf until then

So I was on Yahoo for fantasy football and the #1 trending topic is racist sorority pic. Needless to say I had to click on that link. What I came across was appalling. here is the link since I can't embed the pic. I am appalled people got upset over this. It's a freaking party. This is what America gets upset about now? A bunch of college kids having fun? What in the world is so upsetting about this? Oh no it perpetuates stereotypes of Mexicans mowing lawns and smoking weed (?!) Is that even a stereotype? Worse yet is it is Penn St. Are they going to overreact to everything now to try and prove how they have changed? Child molestation is abhorrent. This is not child molestation. It isn't in the same neighborhood, zip code, area code, or even map. What happened to our society?

He'll be on the Jets by the end of the week. They are desperate for wr help and I hear Sanchez is a beast!