RyanC883

Darnold led his team on a game winning drive. Made a fantastic pass over White. Allen comes in and makes a pass to the Jets CB due to terrible ball placement. Where is the intellectual dishonesty?

ZERO improvement from College to NFL. Some people are so desperate for Allen to be the "answer" that they throw all objectivity out the window. Yeah, his cast is bad, esp. the OL. But will an improved OL improve Allen's touch, or his heaving it into the middle of the field? Or his accuracy? I hope so. I also hope the Bills get Allen a QB coach.

haahah. you are too funny. Allen ADMITTED he did some things (throw the ball into the middle of the field) that were bad. And yeah, Darnold also did it. Was also ridiculous for him to do it. Goff played the Bears last night, but I didn't see a lot of bonehead plays. I saw a lot of WR's missing their routes. The issue with Allen is that we are seeing the same problems that we saw coming into the draft. Accuracy and touch. No improvement. If he improved in one of those areas I'd be happy. He hasn't. And I wouldn't want Darnold either. For the record, I think Allen is the better QB. Darnold just had a better overall game yesterday. He led his team on a game winning drive (aided by our terrible D play).

I have no agenda. I've also seen zero improvement. The OL did not make him heave the ball into the middle of the field, or throw a terrible pass at the end of the game, or lack touch on intermediate passes all year. Same issues from college in the NFL. I actually want him to succeed, because next offseason will be the "build around Allen" offseason. But I'd like to see some improvement in decision-making and touch this year. I'd rather see 100 incomplete passes because my WR and OL stink, then heaving the ball into the middle of the field. Rookie QB's will always be pressured (unless you are Darnold yesterday, who for some reason we decided not to blitz. But that's another issue).

Sign: Center, TE, WR. Draft: BPA (likely pass-rushing DL); WR, OL, RB.

I agree, but I'd only yank him for one drive. Coaches do it all the time to RB's for fumbling. Making a repeated ill-advised heave into the middle of the field instead of out of bounds when you have been told repeatedly NOT to do that, IMO, warrants a one series benching. Lets try to fix Allen's mistakes now, since as you correctly point out, there is not much else to play for here. It hasn't improved from college to the NFL. The same issues (low completion percentage, lack of touch, etc) are still present. What makes someone think it will improve next year? I hope it does. But if the Bills build around Allen and he still can't perform, what's plan B? I'd: (1) build around Allen; (2) try to get Bridgewater in FA. What if they both play well: great, trade one.

Hey, if calling another poster "stupid," and acting arrogant is your thing, well, you do you. Darnold made plays when he needed to yesterday, Allen didn't. Darnold played better yesterday. And the coach clearly, if you watched his press conference, was not happy with Allen throwing the ball into the middle of the field instead of out of bounds. Telling a QB to take SMART chances is what a coach should do. Heaving the ball into the middle of the field in that situation, that's unmitigatedly stupid. But perhaps you need to actually think before responding instead of banging on a keyboard?? And no, Goff and Trubisky were not much better than Darnold or Allen as rookies. Goff and Trubisky both had better completion percentages and QBR. A little research would have helped you there. Oh, and both were better in college. What we are seeing here in Allen is a kid who thinks he is superman, and goes out and makes bonehead plays and doe not listen to coaching. And we have seen no improvement in accuracy or touch. Why will this improve next year? We need a massive TE upgrade. TE is supposed to be a rookie QB's best friend (or a good C, or RB). We need to hit TE and C in FA.

It's like he (a) does not care, or (b) is stupid. That interception is something that you should not be doing in HS, College, and he is doing it REPEATEDLY in the NFL. MCD needs to tell him that he does it again, he is sitting the next drive. and the coach should say, "you deviate again, your going to deviate to the bench the next drive." Pretty arrogant to be deviating from the coaching to heave the ball into the middle of the field when your not close to an all-pro.

Darnold is awful also. But who was better yesterday. Nice red herring response, btw. Look, a QB who is worse. You're scrapping the bottom when you take Darnold or any Jets QB to make yourself feel better about your QB situation.

I think you get a C in FA. We need a veteran Center for Allen. I also think we need a TE upgrade. Get Jesse James from PIT. I'd get the WR in the 2nd round after taking BPA in the 1st. One of the Brown's (Old Miss or Oklahoma) should be available in early 2nd round. Both good hands and speed. Then try covering Brown, Foster, Zay and McKenzie. If Allen has time, 2 of them should always be open. We also need a RB.

The excuses for Allen, who has NEVER had a good completion percentage are getting classic. "Dropped passes." Guess who else has WR's that drop passes: Every QB in the NFL! The O-line is terrible, but that does not make him heave the ball into the middle of the field for an easy INT instead of throwing it out of bounds. It also does not make him have horrid ball placement on the final throw. Contrast that to Darnold's ball placement to Anderson over one of the best CB's in the NFL (White). A 44.4 QBR is terrible. A 50ish completion percentage is exactly around where he was in college. He lacks touch on the intermedia passes. If I'm the Bills, I'm getting a QB in FA. (Bridgewater). Can Allen improve with a better OL and another WR, perhaps. But Allen flat-out missed wide-open WR's yesterday, and rifled passes incomplete that most QB's with a bit of touch make. except he keeps repeating the same mistakes. Still no touch on the ball, still heaving it into the middle of the field, which I'm sure he has been told NOT to do since HS. Taking ownership is great, actually improving is better.

that's true. Much better officiating than last game--which was the worst than I've seen in a long time.

oh I hope so.

not White's fault that Darnold had all day. No CB can cover a WR all day, esp. a fast one like Anderson. And White had perfect positioning on him.

I think you can find impact WR in later rounds (generally). If Bosa is there, you take him over anyone. I think Brown from Old Miss or Oklahoma will be around in the late 1 (trade back in) or early 2nd. Jesse James (TE) would be a great FA acquisition.

that. And Williams looking old. Add to it that Darnold had no RB help, you NEED to blitz him. Esp. when you have a good secondary.

we def need offense in the draft. But I'm thinking we fill some of that in FA (WR, C). We also need pass rushers that can play on a weekly basis and are not continually contemplating retirement.

depends, how many more times can we throw it to Clay. And Zay looked like last year today.

looked terrible. injury even worse it seems given it was the second to last defensive play of the game.

need new ST coach. and why are we trying a 54 yard FG with an injured kicker?

why does the Bills twitter feed have a picture of Bills players celebrating after getting beat? Just seems odd.

he won the game because he had all day to pass. Your playing a rookie QB with no RB (same as the Jets). The Jets rushed Allen, the Bills sat back. You give Darnold all day, he will beat you.

I'm souring on Frazier. It's clear this front 4 can't bring pressure. They are showing their age. At least we can get a good pass rusher in the draft.

yep. But that pass to Jones was AWFUL. He needs to learn how to play in the chaos, because teams will bring the rush until he can. throw it away if you have to, not into the field like he did in the 1st half for an INT.

no pass rush on a interception prone rookie QB is inexcusable. The DL is OLD. You draft BPA. If it's a pass-rusher, great.