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wow, talk about a chronic aliment . . . clearly this has to get better for this team to get better

and what we will have left? . . . oh yeah, cap room so we can sign players the next year

this people! sure you can let people go, but the real question is, what are you going to replace them with ? ? ?

I'm still looking for a Mack sighting in that Bowl game . . . surely we can do better???

If he (Grossman) does't go, Marrone will lose the respect of his players. He preaches accountability, and that cuts both ways, players and caches alike. I don't think its a stretch to say this ST cost the Bills at least two games this season (Cin, Cleve, and killed them again today). can someone that weighs 255 lbs. be called "diminutive" ?

And after today, "not so fast" . . . a Bills coach again out-smarted by the mad genius. It was obvious to anyone watching all season that the Bills run defense was weak—a bunch of sacks has masked that flaw—and again, Belicheck shows why he's smarter than just about the everybody else. Simple game plan: run right at them, do it again, and then do it some more. Anyhow, Pettine still has some things to prove, and today showed that.

Easy: Donovan McNabb!

Ebron is a first round pick … I would be very happy if the Bills got him in round one. A potential big play WR in the second round is Allen Robinson form Penn State. He has great hands, runs well after the catch, but the only issue with him is his size, he's average. But there are a lot of very average size WRs in the NFL that have done very well.

I do hope Arizona somehow gets in, they are an intriguing match-up for any team right now

If he does go, Mike Pettine will become a huge prospect for the PSU head coaching job. He's a PA boy, and he and his father have a lot of connections to Happy Valley. By the way Barbarian, the word down here in PA is that O'Brian is gone, gone, gone . . .

:thumbsup:

Someone just watched "The Blindside"

Right, that's how you build a winner, get rid of two of your best players because they are not choir boys!

Concerning Mack: I watched that bowl game just to see him play, and honestly, I'm still looking. Did he play, was he hurt? I did not see one thing to get me interested in him. Maybe he was hurt?

I loved the Bryan Cox days, he made it fun to watch those games . . .

Thanks for dropping by Gregg's mom. I hope you had a wonderful Christmas. As for EJ Manuel, the grade is clearly incomplete. He has been inconsistent at best—but he is a rookie. At this point, we all want to believe he's "the guy," but that is very hard to honestly say right now. His only consistent trait this season has been injuries. Only time will tell, but the problem is, this is the new NFL and QB's generally are not going to be given a lot of time. He will get next season, and then a real decisions can be made. (And as a long-suffering Bills fan, that is so painfully hard to accept.)

And as the stats show, the one glaring weakness still remains, Run Defense! This needs to be addressed with better LBs in the off-season. If it can be fixed, watch out league!

BmarvB, on 23 December 2013 - 06:14 PM, said: I'm thinking they should at least give him (and Troupe) a fair chance to compete in training camp before cutting them both loose or working out a trade for whatever they can get for either or both. "Troup was cut this preseason. No one picked him up." Good! Now we can really get him cheap, and then think how good that DLine will be! this!

because you know, NFL corners never get beat by really fast receivers . . . it just never happens, right?

winning always builds winning

at least still looking at the play-offs

The problem with EJ is that, we still don't really know what we have. He has looked very good at time, and has looked like a lost rookie at times. My biggest concerns with him is (besides the early run of injuries): He does not appear to have that on the edge, reckless confidence, "do hard things" attitude that all great QBs have. He needs to show he has the moxy to take some risks and make difficult throws once in awhile. He always seems abundantly cautious in his decision making (reminds me a lot of "Trentative" in that respect). Even when he decides to run on occasion, he never really seems committed to it. Thad Lewis, while maybe not having the natural skills and size of Manuel, does show that kind of moxy. He is, however, best suited for the back-up role, and I think he is a very valuable asset to have on any team. And, he has the confidence of his teammates, he has proven that they can win with him. That is an under appreciated, but extremely important player/role on any team. Back to EJ: What I really wonder about concerning him is, how much does coaching comes into his play? Is he limited? over cautious? because Hackett and company are making him that way, or is it him? While this is hard to measure, the eyeball test seems to suggest the offense doesn't have that same level of shyness and timidity when Lewis is in there? So back to my point: I don't think we know what we have yet with EJ, and unfortunately only time will tell so we're going to have to wait until next year to get a better read on that. We all hope he's the answer, but there just isn't enough evidence yet to come to a conclusion. That being said, this is the NFL, and time waits for no one. If he doesn't prove it early next year, we could be starting all over again . . . and, make sure you have Thad wrapped up and ready to go. He may be needed sooner then we want, but he's not a bad #2 option.

One very positive thing to remember, which makes me affirm the thought that we will not be drafting defensive players early (unless a difference-maker LB falls our way) is that Alex Carrington should be back next year. I believe he was ready to have a breakout season for the Bills—he was the best d-linmen in the early pre-season. Getting him back will be like adding a top draft pick to an already good unit.

hahaha