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It could be possible that's a comparison that a lot of people are making but I just don't see it. Other than their size and stature combined with a big arm they aren't that alike. Big Ben is a better comparison for Allen in my opinion.
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You are correct 4.41 for RGIII. I think the comparisons to Cam are just a bit of a stretch and are only made because of McD's connections to the team Cam Newton plays for. Allen and Newton are both big dudes with rocket arms but beyond that they aren't the most comparable players.
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Physically they are a bit far apart from each other but it isn't massive (one has a bigger arm and better intangibles the other is faster and has fewer issues with accuracy.) But Cam's college resume is so far ahead of Allen's. Cam's senior year was not only beastly, but it was against the best competition college football could offer. Allen was a pretty good but not dominant QB in a so so conference. People projected Allen as a top 10 or even top 5 pick because of his insane arm, physical profile (big dude and big hands) and for the fact that Allen is by all accounts has the intangibles. A lot of scouts also weren't scared off by his low completion percentage because of context (Type of offense he played in was more downfield throwing, his WR's weren't the best, and his O-line play was poor.) But Allen is by far the more raw prospect than Cam was. Allen is the NBA prospect you draft because of how athletic he is despite not having dominance at the college level while Cam is the type of prospect you draft because he was athletic and dominant at the college level. Cam's last college seasons was one of the best of all time and he had the insane physical tools. Watching Cam coming out of college that year he looked like a man among boys and his professional success proved that.
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Cam also had a 40 time of 4.59 while Allen had a 40 time of 4.75. Allen's 40 for a QB isn't too shabby but Cam's is pretty dam insane considering his size (For reference much smaller QB's like Michael Vick ran a 4.25 40 and RGIII ran a 4.1 40.) Cam Newton was not only a more successful college player against better competition but Cam also possessed better physical skills outside of maybe raw arm strength. That's not to **** on Allen, Allen has maybe the most insane rocket arm ever and is right out of central casting for a QB. Allen by all accounts is a hard worker and a good leader. But he just isn't the same physical freak as Cam and Cam also had a much better college resume.
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I like Darnold as a QB but it is weird how no USC QB besides Carson Palmer has had a lot of success at the NFL level and even Palmer wasn't a resounding hall of fame player (1 career playoff win although certainly some good seasons throughout his career.) Each player is their own and if I were the Jets I wouldn't start him at all this season. Have him learn for a year maybe toss him in for 2-4 games at the back end of the season. Then I would spend a bunch of money and draft picks to build up the talent around him. Similar to what I want the Bills to do with Allen.
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Rosen doesn't have many issues with his play, he isn't the most mobile but he isn't a statue in the pocket either. But as a pocket passer, he shows almost everything you would want. He is smart, knows how to execute an offense, he doesn't have a legendary arm like Allen but he has a dam good arm and is accurate. Rosen also has very good fundamentals only some small issues with footwork. The 2 significant knocks on Rosen have always been durability (a Significant injury ended his 2016 season and he had a concussion in 2017 and there might have been some other concussions) which is a legitimate concern and Rosen seems to be viewed as a combustible personality. I think teams view Rosen as a Jay Cutler type, but that to me isn't fair since Cutler lacked a lot of energy and failed to galvanize teammates a lot of the time. Rosen is very fiery and passionate but he could be much more self-serving and loose-lipped which coaches don't like. All things considered, I would have taken Rosen, I think the knocks of being too smart and coming from an entitled family are dumb, durability and general personality concerns are a lot to consider but I think Allen's possible accuracy issues and the work he needs on his fundamentals are larger issues.
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If AJ McCarron plays great
billsfan89 replied to Kingston Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Hypothetically if AJ is a lights out franchise QB and Allen doesn't see the field the Bills will be able to at the very least recoup a mid first round pick plus other considerations for Allen. I wouldn't worry about it. -
Harrison Phillips will be a BEAST!
billsfan89 replied to HoserE's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I love this pick, wasn't on my radar in the pre-draft process but looking into his profile I loved it and his disposition since being drafted has been fantastic. -
I think it is fair to question her credentials because of her close relationship with Terry. She didn't build the business together with Terry, Terry worked for Getty Oil and then founded his first company in 1983. Terry's business was pretty well established and successful by the time he met Kim. Kim since the age of 22 has only worked for entities owned by Terry. If your husband is the owner of where you work it is possible that you won't get held to the same standard as an ordinary worker. I am not saying that she did or didn't but rather that it isn't out of the realm of possibility. I think it's also fair to question Kim's credentials because we don't know what her positions within Terry's various companies were. We don't know the scope of what she has managed and how successful she has managed them. It could be she is really involved and very good at what she has worked on. But it could also be that she has never really managed a large division and resources either.
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Why the Allen project may be different
billsfan89 replied to Batman1876's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I would also add that Allen's lack of accuracy in college is not necessarily reflective of his touch or ability accuracy wise. His bad footwork developed in part because of terrible offensive line play (hard to have good footwork if you are consistently under pressure.) The offense he played in was a downfield throwing offense that didn't have as many high percentage throws as a lot of other offenses, not to mention that Allen's receivers weren't the best. If Allen is benched most of his rookie year he can develop his footwork decently before getting called into action, and if the O-line play in front of him improves (which in 2019 they can improve the o-line a lot lots of salary cap space and a draft class) he stands a chance of having much better footwork. Also, the offense will have more short throws and hopefully better WR's. I think that these factors are why teams fell in love with Allen so much during the process. The dude is straight out of central casting for a QB. 6 foot 5, 240 pounds, best arm strength most have seen or close to it, smart and a great leader the only issue is questions about accuracy which might have plausible explanations. -
What do you think of my new kick off idea?
billsfan89 replied to Steptide's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I think it was Greg Schiano when he was with the Bucs that had an idea I think would work much better. After a team scores a TD or gets a Field goal place the ball on the 35 yard line and make it a 4th and 15 or 20 and the team that scored possesses the ball and has the option to punt or go for it (Instead of an onside kick.) Less injuries on punts than kickoffs and it still keeps the integrity of the game as it isn't nearly as gimmicky being a down and distance type thing. You pretty much would never see a kickoff in bounds unless a team went for an onsides kick. -
From what I have read she just worked in Terry's business form 1991 to 2010 when it was sold. I would imagine being married to the owner of the business she had a pretty high up position in the business but who knows if she was actually doing something where she was managing a lot of people and resources? It also is questionable as to what her results are as a manager since we have no idea how she did as an executive. As an interim president, I think she will be fine. Beane has a good handle on the football operations so she basically is just going to handle the marketing and business ops.
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RD 4, Pick 121: Taron Johnson DB - Weber State
billsfan89 replied to Reed83HOF's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
The Bills needed a nickel CB so I don't hate the pick, but I would have went with O-line, the team's big trade ups were going to lead to a roster that was compromised in certain areas. Hopefully for Buffalo they can find some veteran players to fill those needs. -
In the mid to late rounds you have to just acquire the most talented players on the board. That's how you build the best team. A 4th to 7th round pick isn't likely to come in and start so reaching for a need is useless. Just take the best players on the board at that point. That's how you build a deep roster. Hopefully one of the top 3 players on your board fit a need but you shouldn't reach at all at this point in the draft.
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RD3, Pick 96: Harrison Phillips DT - Stanford
billsfan89 replied to Reed83HOF's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Kelsay was a good role player, a good 3rd DE rotational type player. The hate from fans seems to stem from the fact that he got overpaid by the Bills twice for some reason. The Bills weren't getting zero production out of him but rather they weren't getting anywhere close to the production needed considering his salary. -
Explain why we should trust McBeane on offense?
billsfan89 replied to Kelly the Dog's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
In 2018 I am not sure the Bills will have better QB play. McCarron vs. Tyrod could go either way, I think Tyrod is proven to be a pretty capable player but McCarron has potential to work better out of the pocket. Allen is a very raw rookie and will likely need a year to grasp the offense and work on his footwork. So long term the Bills have a possible answer at QB but short term it might not work out. -
Opinions on why we passed on Rosen?
billsfan89 replied to Klaista2k's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Durability concerns, maybe some character issues as well? I also think that it is possible that the Bills simply liked Josh Allen more? Allen has the best are we have seen in a long time, Allen is big and durable, Allen has some speed, and Allen seems to be a bright kid with good character. Yes, his accuracy and footwork are a concern. But if you are a QB under duress constantly with bad WR's in an offense with less high percentage throws those issues do have a context. -
Unless I am missing something Josh Allen's QB rating in college was 137.7 with a 44 to 21 TD to INT ratio. Completion percentage was relatively low but Allen was pretty productive for what its worth.
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NFL coaches can now communicate with the QB until 10 seconds before the snap. I feel like with that new development in QB play (which helped Goff out tremendously this past season) players with big time physical tools like Allen will have a greater chance of success.
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All Josh Allen haters. Please respond below
billsfan89 replied to mead107's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
This pick to me is a sign that they like AJ McCarron more than we think. Allen can chill at least 1 year behind AJ and work on his fundamentals and grasp the system. The team gets a full look at AJ for a year and gives Allen some time to ruminate and grow. In 2019 they can reevaluate both players, see if AJ is anything more than a backup or if Allen is ready. The team will have plenty of cap space and a new draft class in 2019 to fill needs and build a complete roster. I would have preferred Rosen but I think you play to win and if Allen pans out he could be a top 10 QB, to me if Rosen pans out he is an upper mid-level QB. -
Is there a precedent for developing a low-percentage QB?
billsfan89 replied to finn's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
The accuracy numbers on Allen are a huge concern but some of Allen's completion percentage is explained by the nature of his offense (more downfield throws less high completion percentage throws like screens and shovel passes) and the nature of Allen's receivers not being that good. I think the reason he was scouted well despite the completion percentage was these other factors. I still would have preferred Rosen but I don't hate Allen all things considered. -
RD 1, Pick 16: Tremaine Edmunds OLB - Virginia Tech
billsfan89 replied to SDS's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
If Edmunds pans out who cares they gave up pick 65 (And got back a mid 5th) but just in philosophy I hate a trade up for a non-QB. -
Sometimes the fans are right, hell with the Bills in the past (Esp during the Jauron era) seemed to be correct more than the people in charge. Everyone knew at the time the picks were made Maybin over Orakpo was moronic, the CJ Spllier pick was stupid, Whitner over Nagata was bad, and McCargo over Mangold was insane. But this coaching staff has seemingly made good decisions with personnel moves more often than not. People bitched at the Dawkins trade up and Dawkins had a great rookie year. People were upset Sammy was traded but most people would rather have had that 2nd round pick, EJ Gaines, and not having to pay Sammy 16+ million to keep him.
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RD 1, Pick 16: Tremaine Edmunds OLB - Virginia Tech
billsfan89 replied to SDS's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
It's not dark at all, but I think that the players available at pick 22 would have been really good and they still would have had pick 65 to find another player at a position of need. I think they got the best player available but I think it was smarter to just stay where you were and keep pick 65. -
It's not an exact science for sure but I think there is a lot of arrogance among fans esp with the internet where people think the information they get off of websites is as good as what professional scouting staffs have. But no matter what picks thought to be "good" will be busts and "Busts" will end up being great players.