billsfan89

Yes, he is awful. Idiots on here thinking because he looked good in pre-season he was better than Tyrod.

The O-line despite the improvements they made to it is still pretty ass but Eli despite the bad O-line play should be producing more. I think the Giants likely are inline for a 3-5 win season. They should be picking high up enough to trade up for a QB. They probably will hold onto Eli for one more year to be a bridge QB in 2019 for whatever QB they draft in 2019 but I can't see Eli staying on beyond that unless he has some sort of remarkable turnaround in performance it is looking like the beginning of the end for Eli. I thought Eli could have had 2-3 more decent years in the tank myself but I still would have taken a QB at pick 2 because their offensive issues were more so related to bad O-line play and they still spent a wise pick on Hernandez in round 2 (Hernandez has been their best performing O-line player and one of the few reasons as to why they went from worst O-line in the league to simply a bad O-line.) I think it would have been much easier to find a top caliber RB like Barkley than it is to find a top QB prospect. But the Giants might be far worse than anyone though this season and instead of finishing with 7-9 wins like everyone projected them to they might be drafting top 6 which makes a trade up for a QB much less pricey.

The New York media has been up Mannings ass this season. They beefed up the O-line, added the top RB prospect, and they already had a quality pass catchers in Sheppard, Engram, and Odell, yet it is the offense that struggles (Their defense isn't the best but it is far from trash and with a good offense they should be able to compete with a average but certainly not bad defense.) No one is giving Eli a pass. Stop projecting your concerns about Allen onto a QB who is getting a lot of heat.

It's October not April, if a player was half way decent he would be signed by now. That's not to say there might not be some slight upgrades out on the wire but there isn't anything meaningful out there at the moment.

The levels of stratification with talent at linebacker are bigger than you think. But I do agree that coaching and putting players in a position to maximize their skill sets are huge component to getting productive levels of talent out of players. So much of coaching is understanding what players do and don't do well and putting them in positions to hide their weaknesses and maximize their strengths. The Pats are always getting the most out of role players and players who weren't able to be successful on other teams. That's a huge component of their success.

4 Turnovers is a lot for any team in any given week, if it is going to take 4 turnovers to win the game than it is unlikely the Bills would win. I could see 5 sacks which would be tremendous but more than 2 turnovers is highly unlikely. I also think that the Texans would play uber conservative if their defense is coming out super dominant. I can also see the Texans getting 2-3 turnovers themselves. I hope you are right but I just can't see the Bills producing the insane turnover differential needed to win a tough away game like this esp after they got very fortunate with turnover the previous week (Turnovers in the NFL are partially luck/circumstance based.) Then again I thought the Titans game would be a loss for very similar reasons.

Texans 24 Bills 13 Away game to a Texans team that has multiple premier pass rushers I don't see the offense being able to put up enough points and I don't think the defense will get the turnovers needed to keep the Texans off the scoreboard enough to win. This game will be a close defensive struggle until the fourth quarter when I think the Texans make it a two score game and just play conservative the rest of the way. I am very interested in seeing the defense and if they can keep the Texans offense off the scoreboard without getting the turnovers. Of course Allen's development always remains a point of interest.

I don't think the Bills want to move Shady unless they get a 2nd round pick and a mid to late round pick back. I do think that the Bills know that the Eagles aren't giving back major players that help them win now. This would be a player for pick/picks type trade. The Eagles are the contending team looking to add talent not give back a lot of talent along with picks for a 30 year old RB not having the best season who also has a significant contract. They want Shady to complement their existing talent base and they don't want to give back talent in order to get Shady.

The Bills offense did consistently hang the defense out to dry. That being said I agree there were a lot of lucky plays for the defense including the drop. But the Bills defense did a good job consistently getting stops and making big plays. However the Bills did lose 3 points on a bonehead play with the botched snap so you do have to factor that in.

They would have to at least get a 3rd in return. Anything less and Beane !@#$ed up.

That's fair to say that's what you would want to take back but this move is a win now move for Philly to give up a pick/picks for a player that could help them make a run. They aren't going to send back a player like Agholor who helps them win now in a package for Shady that also includes draft capital. I think you could probably pry Warmack as he is a depth player but Philly wants to win in 2018 and they aren't giving up their second best WR, Draft capital, and their best backup OL for a 30 year old RB. It just doesn't line up with the needs of the Eagles to send back players in this type of deal.

As I said I wouldn't hate Shady for a 3rd straight up. Or Shady and a 6th for Warmack and a 3rd. But I wouldn't be as enthusiastic about netting a 3rd for our best most dynamic offensive player that could greatly help the current raw rookie QB greatly for only a 3rd round pick. A 2nd rounder is a return I would be much more comfortable with.

I think Allen's development this season could be negatively impacted by not having Shady the teams best offensive weapon out there. Shady does take a lot of pressure off of Allen which put Allen in better positions. Without Shady more of the offensive burden falls onto Allen and that might have negative longer term consequences. If I am taking that risk I am not sure a 3rd round pick would be a worthwhile return.

It would depend on what the Dolphins would want in return and what his 5th year option looks like (Miami picked up Parker's fifth year option.) If the Fins are looking to dump his contract for peanuts and his option isn't crazy than I wouldn't mind the Bills taking a chance. The WR free agent crop isn't crazy strong, Parker might be better than a lot of our free agent options.

Allen is a big reason why I would pause to trade Shady for a 3rd straight up. If Tyrod or a respectable vet QB was starting and Allen wasn't going to be thrown in until the last 5-6 games of the season I would not hesitate to trade Shady for a 3rd straight up. But if the long term game is to develop Allen then taking away his best offensive weapon (When he is already surrounded by such little talent) for a 3rd round pick gives me pause. Now if it was a 2nd round pick straight up I wouldn't hesitate to make the move because that return on Shady is too good to pass up despite the hurt that it could cause short term. I wouldn't hate Shady for a 3rd as I get that is a good return for an older player on a big contract (I would love to get Warmack as a throw in even if it meant kicking back a 6th or a 5th.)

Whatever you are on I will have two. Do you honestly think Philly is going to give up a swap of a 3rd and 5th along with one of their best receivers on a rookie contract and throw in Warmack for Shady a 30 year old RB not having the best season and on a significant contract? Get real here, this is a player for picks trade, maybe the Bills can get Warmack as a throw in but the Bills aren't prying away Agholor. Philly is trying to improve their chances to win now, giving up O-line depth and a good young WR (While also giving up draft assets) for a older running back just makes no sense.

Raw rookie looks raw, not shocking but I do agree with the article the best thing for him to do is play. The game will slow down the more he is exposed to it. Allen is by all accounts a hardworker so I expect him to progress with more playing time.

I think they would have Kyle and Lorax back if they wanted to come back on one year modest deals. That being said I think Kyle retires after this year but Lorax comes back for one more. Hughes is a keeper if he continues his strong play, his production level compared to his contract is very valuable, not to mention the locker room leader that he is. Although I don't doubt that the Bills will draft some defensive players I suspect they will invest more on the offensive side of the ball in the draft. Besides pass rusher (I think unless Murphy pans out big they need a front line pass rusher to complement Hughes and make Murphy/Shaq rotational players) the Bills don't have any big ticket needs on defense. Maybe they might need a corner and a LB but they should be able to take care of one or even two of those needs with the cap space that they have. Their offensive needs are much bigger and the free agent market (Particularly at WR) is drying up for them. I would rather see the Bills invest most of their draft picks on offense. The defense will still likely see some young mid round picks added but I think overall the 3 out of the first 4 picks will be on the offensive side of the ball.

That sucks, I was hoping that he would be out on the market.

I think at best the Bills could maybe swap a 4th for a 2nd for Shady. I would consider the trade for a 2nd outright. If Tyrod or some other capable vet starter were here instead of Allen I would for sure do it for a 3rd round pick. But considering how out to dry Allen already is, I would rather keep Shady and help out Allen's development by having something there to help him out. A 2nd is an insanely good return on Shady at this point who at best will have 1 more productive year. So if the Bills could pry that I would understand the move but hanging a rookie out to dry for a mid to late 3rd round pick just seems like a bad move.

Dawkins looks to be a keeper. Allen the jury is still out on. That being said I would not be opposed to trading mid or late round picks for established WR's but I do overall trust this regime when it comes to the draft.

The Bills (Based off of early returns) seem to have drafted 3 starters in each of the past 2 drafts (Possibly 4 if Allen and Zay pan out.) That's a pretty good rate, I fully trust the regime in drafting. It's the use of the cap space that I am not so sure about .

The Bills 2 wins were also not conductive to propping up Allen's stats. The Titans game was a defensive struggle and the entire second half of the Vikings game was a conservative game plan designed to avoid turn overs and run down the clock. Let's see how the season plays out and understand the context that Allen is a raw rookie playing with little supporting talent.

I agree, this trade isn't going to happen, Cooper isn't on the market and isn't a problem for the Raiders and it isnt' in Beane's profile to trade multiple premium picks for a talent. I think people were just throwing out pipe dreams of acquiring Cooper for mid round picks and a throw in player like Shaq Lawson.

He is on the last year of his rookie deal (He was a 2nd round pick) and is coming off of just being released. I think he will be very motivated at least for the rest of this season. Now if the big knock on him in Miami was motivation and desire I would be averse to handing him a big contract for 2019 and beyond. But I don't doubt that motivation shouldn't be an issue for the rest of this season. If this dude continues to play like he did today this team will be very stout up the middle.