billsfan89

Why would the Saints do this? Kamara is one of the most electrifying players in the league and a key cog to the Saints offense. I get that the Saints might be coming up against the cap in the coming years but they are in win now mode and they could always hold onto Kamara for 2020 and franchise him and trade him. I doubt they are going to trade one of their most valuable offensive weapons for a 2nd round pick when he still has one year left on his rookie deal.

Other broadcasts go with a more fun approach and get better results. It isn't even like they are good at the approach either.

They ***** themselves by hiring Coughlin in the first place. As much talent as they had one defense and the decent pieces they had on offense they were making it miserable to be there. BUT their mos tgalring mistake was that 20 million dollar a year Bortles extension really killed their team roster wise in 2018. They could have signed or traded for a subpar starting QB at a much cheaper price point and invested on the offense or added another piece to their defense instead of dropping 20 million on Bortles in 2018 and 15.5 million in dead cap on him in 2019. Both years those bad contracts really tanked their roster. But beyond the Bortles extension the Jags just ***** themselves over in a lot of different ways. 25% of all NFLPA grievances were against the Jags in 2019. Players were advised to not sign there in 2019 because of how bad the atmosphere was. Combine that with a bad (so far) 2018 draft class and some blunders on the roster they killed any chances they had of following up on that 2017 season with a winning season. I think keeping Marrone around is another bad mistake. Not only is he not a good coach but they need a complete full rebuild. The Jags got rid of Campbell (not as bad a move as many thought big contract older player and declining production) and Foles big contracts while getting an absolute haul for Ramsey. The Jags even had a really good 2019 draft class. So it isn't like with a good fresh new coach they couldn't use the Ramsey picks and the 2021 cap space to rebuild quick. But they are instead stuck with Marrone who will likely be fired after a year and wasting their draft picks on players for his system and taste. It is maddening to watch their team make poor decisions over and over again.

The worst picks are the ones that everyone thought were bad picks at the time and turned out to be bad. If I had to rank them. 1- Maybin over Orakpo - Everyone knew Maybin beefed up during the pre-draft process and over performed at the combine. Whereas Orakpo was a legit top 3 prospect who was falling because of injury concerns that while legit was exactly the type of talent you should take a chance on late in the top 10 or they could have drafted O-line at that spot when other good prospects were available. 2- McCargo over Mangold - That 2006 draft set the team back 3-4 years if not more. They could have had a 3 time All-Pro 7 time Pro-Bowl Center to anchor their line for a decade instead they reached on a DT who was thought of as more of a second round pick. Especially considering that Center was a huge need that they would eventually spend a first round pick on is maddening. 3- Troupe over Gronk - Once again Troupe was considered a reach and Gronk was right there in round 2 to be had at a time when they could have used a tight end for a decade by that point. 4- CJ Spiller - They had Lynch and Freddie, RB was one of the few positions going into the 2010 NFL draft where the Bills were set and they took CJ Spiller when tons of great O-line players were available or good defensive players like Earl Thomas or JPP were there to be had. At least Spiller had a good year in his career which prevents this from being higher on the list. 5- The other big blunder of the 2006 draft. Everyone knew that Whitner was a reach at pick 8 and that Ngata was the perfect Pat Williams replacement. DT was a need and they could have easily filled it with a quality player who could have anchored the run defense for nearly a decade. Instead they chose Whitner who was never a bust but was never anything more than a solid player who they let walk anyway. This one goes at 5 because at least Whitner was somewhat productive. 6- JP Losman - They reached bad for a QB costing them a future 1st to trade up for a QB that didn't have the attitude or demeanor to make a good but not great physical skillset work. The 2010 and 2006 draft blunders were so heinous it made me ill right after watching them. Spiller and Troupe over a quality prospect at a position of need and Gronk set the offense up to be hideous for years to come. The 2006 McCargo and Whitner instead of Mangold and Ngata completely inhibited the team from having a good O-line for nearly a decade and a solid D-line for a long time. Just so many blunders during the drought that everyone knew were blunders. Zay Jones was at least thought of to be a good prospect worth drafting at that position. It was a mistake but at the time not thought of that bad.

I have no clue why ESPN can't put together a good MNF program. They have the resources and the justification for it. But yet they haven't had a good MNF team and broadcast for a long time if ever.

I fully agree no WR drafted in round 2 or 3 is likely to start esp over proven options. However there exists a need for depth and a need to replace Brown and Beasley long term. This is a deep WR class, the team would be foolish to not get younger at the position when they lack depth.

Maybe they add another field goal when they were up 16 having another play maker there could have been the difference in a game where the margins are so tight. It is also possible the Bills could have won an extra game going into week 17 and been playing for the division possibly against the Jets. Who knows, it is worthless at this point.

The team needs depth and to get younger at WR long term. I would love to see one of the Bills first two picks spent at WR. Brown and Beasley are 30 and 31 respectively. WR's fall off around 32-34 so Brown and Beasley aren't long term fits and it would be smart to have an heir apparent esp in a deep WR class. There is also the issue of depth one injury (and Brown especially has been injury prone most of his career) to one of the top 3 WR's and the team is possibly in the same situation they were last season only having 2 consistent receiving options. So yes the long term need is there and the short term depth need is there to justify taking a WR early. There also aren't many pressing needs on the roster. The needs on the roster are depth and youth at certain positions. They can find a RB to pair with Singletary in round 4, the only other pressing depth/youth need on the roster is DE. In my mind if the Bills can find a good DE and WR in rounds 2 and 3 that would be ideal, take a RB in round 4 and you solidified potential weak points on the roster long and short term.

Beane has either been very lucky that the best player available has been a player of need (early) or like any sensible GM he tries to take need into account when drafting. 2017 - Drafts Tre White after losing Gilmore, Dawkins was drafted when RT was a need and Glenn was banged up at LT and Zay was drafted when Robert Woods left. 2018- Team desperately needs a QB and they get Allen and the team needed a MLB after P.Brown walked and they drafted Edumonds. 2019- Drafts Ed Oliver after Kyle Williams retires and there weren't many proven options at DT on the roster and Cody Ford also filled a need at RT (And Knox and Singletary were also need picks in round 3.) I think looking at what positions McBeane has drafted there is no sign that he has taken BPA all the time or even most of the time. He takes need into account but will not reach either. I think they made the right choice not trading up for the other Josh Allen and staying at pick 9 and getting Ed Oliver. I think to trade up to pick 6 or 5 to get ahead of Jacksonville would have been costly (At least the Bills 3rd round pick and 5th round pick) and as much as I like DE Josh Allen I think Oliver might be just as good at an equally premium position.

I agree somewhat that a top-3 WR injury is going to be hard to overcome but I think that a 2nd or 3rd round rookie at least has a chance to step in and be a lot better than what would currently be on the roster (Mac, Foster or Duke) and even those modest differences could be the difference. Also if a WR gets hurt week 7 a rookie at least had a good chunk of the season to acclimate and be better than Mac or Duke. Overall it is more so a future consideration with the upside of potential depth.

I think Josh if he continues to improve on his game this upcoming season I think he can knock on being a top 10 QB. In 2019 I think he was somewhere in the 18-20 range at QB last season factoring in his rushing. I think he can get to the 10-13 range if he finds his long ball and tightens up his mechanics some more in 2020. But I think he is a year away from getting to an elite level.

Even in that draft only Diggs and Cooper had a big time impact in their first season (Lockett the only other one with significant impact year one) and most took until year 3 or 4 to really get going if they ever got going at all. So I think turning exclusively to the draft is risky especially if you want impact in the next two seasons. That’s why I think trading a 1st for Diggs and then dipping into the pool again in round 3 for depth/future considerations is the best way to go to both secure immediate improvement in the WR corps while also setting up the WR core for the future.

I still would like the Bills to dip into the WR draft with one of their first two picks. This team is one injury away from having the same issues on offense as they did last season. They also need to get younger behind Brown and Beasley who are 30 and 31 respectively, in a deep WR class it would be smart to get young behind the 3 starters when a round 3 pick might net a good player who can develop for a season and then push for a starting spot in 2021. DE and WR were the trouble spots going into the off-season and I still think they are lacking somewhat.

A lot of draft pundits and scouts were saying that Allen had one of the strongest arms ever and certainly the strongest arm since Cam Newton came out in 2011. There is no doubt that Allen (who has not had any major injuries to his arm or shoulder) has the strongest arm in the league even stronger than Mahomes who has a cannon. Now does pure arm strength translate to being a good QB? No, but it can and it certainly helps to have as strong an arm as possible. I think Allen can make it to being an elite QB but I do think he is a year away from being a top 5 "elite" QB. I think 2020 will be the year he knocks on being a top 10 QB.

Throw it over those mountains.

I think the team has to go WR in round 2 or 3. Diggs will be 27 come this season, not old but Beasley will be 31 and Brown just turned 30, on top of there being zero depth behind them (Roberts is a return man, Mackenzie a gadget player and the rest are bubble roster players) the team needs a WR waiting to take over for Beasley and Brown once they decline in a year or two. My ideal draft would be to go DE round 2 (need to get younger at DE and some depth wouldn't hurt), WR round 3, RB round 4, and LB or Secondary depth round 5. That would fill 4 key areas of depth for this team while getting younger at two positions they are very very old at.

I wouldn't say it is Super Bowl or bust for this team BUT I would say that the bar is in my mind set at winning the division and a playoff game as a minimum for the season to not be a disappointment. Now if they get Clowney I would then upgrade to Conference Championship game as a minimum. But Allen is still a young QB and I think Super Bowl or nothing expectations are a bit high. I get thinking this team can go all the way but I also think that it is a bit much to expect Allen to make the jump from decent QB with flaws to someone who can win 3-4 playoff games.

If I were running the team I would kick the tires on Flacco but with the public health situation that is going on getting him to a doctor you trust for a physical might be a big barrier. I would probably look to sign a vet and draft a QB in round 6 or 7. The QB drafted late goes to the PS and then vet battle with Barkely for the backup spot. But I am not spending big bucks no a backup QB and I am not drafting one before round 6.

This is all hypothetical as we don't know if Clowney's price tag is coming down just yet or if he would accept a one year deal at this moment. I agree if the cost of upgrading Trent Murphy's roster spot is 7 million plus Lee Smith I do it. Especially since a one year deal for Clowney doesn't impact the team's cap situation long term beyond a little bit of roll over. BUT I think the Bills should monitor the situation and wait in the wings with a 18 million dollar one year offer. I would even still consider a DE in round 2 or 3 even if they swap Clowney for Murphy just to get younger a deeper behind the older Hughes and Addision.

According to Spotrac the Bills without EJ Gaines and D.Williams calculated have about 23 million in cap space for the top 51. The Bills do need 5 million for the rookie pool and typically GM's like to have about 8 million for emergency signings. So that only leaves the Bills with about 10 million in "pure" cap space. They could easily cut Trent Murphy for 8 million in space and then Lee Smith for another 1.75 million. Those are the only "easy" cuts on the roster that I see. The rest of the possible cuts would sacrifice depth or more useful role players. Now that does not factor in D.Williams and EJ Gaines contracts. I doubt Gaines is anything other than the vet minimum. D.Williams could be a deal above the minimum in the 2-3 million range. So assuming a generous 3 million dollar deal for D.Williams (Just to overestimate) that probably leaves the Bills with about 8 million in real cap space. So the Bills could cut Murphy and Lee Smith and have about 16-17.5 million in cap space to offer Clowney on a one year deal. I think that would be competitive with what a team like the Jets or Cleveland (2 teams with more than 30 million in cap space) could offer. As far as Markus Golden I wouldn't hate it but I think he would be a marginal upgrade over Trent and I would rather draft a DE in round 2 or 3 and roll over the cap space to ease the extensions in 2021.

Why would the Texans not just franchise Watson? This thread is presenting a choice that Watson would actually be available.

I was shocked when they signed EJ Gaines and D.Williams as I thought they were done then. But I will agree that I can't see the Bills making any more signings before the draft and I think any singings they make after the draft will be very low key depth signings. As much as I would love an all in move to sign Clowney to a one year deal I don't see it happening. I would love to see them cut Murphy and sign Clowney to a one year deal (I don't think Clowney is a process guy but as a one year mercenary looking for that big payday I think he can work) and then focus the draft on offensive skill position depth and secondary depth.

His agent timed that 3 year deal perfectly. He got a nice 40 million plus and is going to be 28 and a free agent and will have a good shot at one more big contract (and playing in KC's offense might help inflate his stats.) I think that players are going to emulate that model going forward. Typically players become free agents around 25-26 and they are usually lucky to get 1 big contract. I think a lot of guys are going to sign big 2-3 year deals to get a second crack at a good contract when they are 27-29. As opposed to signing 5 year deals whose guarantees run out after year 3 anyway and then they are unlikely to hit the market for another good deal. I think we saw that same thing with Shaq who got a good deal with Miami but then will be a free agent again at age 28 where he can get another 3-4 year big payday. Smart for players to try and maximize their value on shorter term deals.

Win win for both sides. Sammy was hugely overpaid on that deal but still brought positive value to that offense. Basically Sammy gets his guaranteed money and some incentives to make up a lot of what he gave up. KC gets some cap space to make them a functional team cap wise while keeping Sammy. Sammy gets more than he would on the open market in an offense that can inflate his stats just in time for another free agency run.

I agree that Goff in large part benefitted from having so much talent around him in 2017 and 2018. But at least Goff had 2 seasons where he sustained a high level of play, Tannehill was given only 6 million less for half an above average season. In my mind Goff was a mistake that one could see coming but at least had some semblance of sense to it. Tannehill was a mind numbing mistake that had no logic at the time nor makes any sense long term. I think teams are too afraid of losing a QB who is decent. I get that decent QB play is not so easy to find but I don’t think the Redskins really regret not paying Cousins 90 million guaranteed. Whereas the Titans will regret that Tannehill contract soon and the Rams are already hamstrung by that Goff contract. And I think Goff is a good QB (Probably would rank him between 10-12 in terms of QB's) but you can't pay a good QB like a top 3 QB, the Rams probably would slot him in the 28 million range which would have freed up 8 million in space that could have been used to sign a couple of decent starters.