All_Pro_Bills

If you apply critical thinking and logic with a dose of skepticism while questioning authority and holding them accountable then nobody can control you. If you do this then you're in control of your thoughts and ideas and more than capable of independent and original thinking to form opinions and beliefs. Basically what the neo-liberals believe is people are not capable of original thinking. That's false premise. Original and independent thinking are some of the traits that make America unique. Its a primary driver of progress and invention. That's my answer to that bolded question. The media faces a few big problems the first of which is that if they lie to me unfortunately I can't trust them. Most Americans feel this way now. Another big problem is peer-to-peer communications like this board and social media platforms have rendered their traditional methods of top-down hierarchical organization for controlling and censoring the "news" obsolete. And at this point they've resorted to outright censorship and suppression of anything that doesn't support their narratives. Its so obvious everyone knows. Their grip on news and information is so shaky that honestly I'm more inclined now to "believe" what they censor more than what they let pass through. They have lost all control and like a drowning man are thrashing around back and forth trying to stay alive. Their credibility is shot. When I need a good laugh during the day I find myself tuning in to CNN or some other media outlet for some comic relief. Who needs Comedy Central when you've got Rachel Maddow? Is she still looking for Russians? Those people can't possibly believe all the crap they're spewing, can they? How they can keep themselves from gut-busting laughter on the set is a testament to their self-control.

Well then prove it! Let's see the DOJ and the FBI take it all up in a court of law, have the prosecution present its case, allow the defense to counter, present its evidence, cross-examine government witnesses, and then let a jury decide the outcome along with a judge passing sentence. But so far the government's strategy is to use intimidation and coercion on individual suspects to enter a guilty plea in exchange for a lighter sentence through plea bargaining agreements. I don't recall a single shred of evidence being presented in any case much less anything that might meet the legal threshold of suggesting or proving conspiracy. So instead they set up this phony commission and stack it will House members supportive of the governments claims. There's not a single member of this committee than can be considered potentially unfriendly or hostile to the government's objectives of finding what they have already pre-judged in the media and statements to date. Those that might cause trouble were rejected by Nancy. And the idea Liz Chaney's presence makes it bi-partisan is a joke everybody sees. What this committee does is give the prosecution a platform to make their case while denying the defense any opportunity to cross-examine witnesses or present a counter-argument. The idea here is to simulate a "legal" forum while denying the defense any opportunity to present their side. A couple weeks ago we saw compelling testimony from 4 Capitol Police officers about what they experienced. It was great theater. But as not a single member of the committee asked, or was allowed to ask, any direct questions that might challenge or refute their statements and testimony. It presented one perspective of a story that has many prospective to it. Along with this we were subject to what seems to be a perpetual display of nauseating, dramatic, and pitiful sniveling and crying from House members. If I didn't know they were faking I'd be worried about how weak and emotional our House members are here. Pathetic acting that the Academy will surely not be nominating for any awards this Fall. P.S. If you're at Barrack's party having a great time today its okay if you don't respond right away. I understand. But try and save me a piece of cake.

Are you telling me that you didn't get invited either? I guess it was only Tibs and Billsy that got one. LOL..

But so far all that proves is the intent of specific individuals to partake in violence rather than some massive collusion and conspiracy of the protest group to take over the government. Conspiracy and insurrection? That's still a big leap from what proof and evidence has been provided. So far all they can prove is a couple guys intent on causing trouble.

The Capitol Police directed by the House Sargent at Arms William J. Walker reporting to the House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Its been reported Capitol Police called Walker's office 5 times to request additional forces be deployed before and during the protest turned violent and their request was denied all 5 times. Its not clear whether it was Walker or Pelosi or someone else who made the ultimate decision on these requests for more help. I would think an answer to the question of Who and Why the requests for help were denied is something important to the events of that day. Do you agree? Probably more important than spending endless hours focusing on what a bunch of guys dressed in kooky costumes were doing running around inside the building that day.

What are Orban's "far right" policies?

So you are personally going to go out there and put the squeeze on people? Let me know when you do that so I can watch the result as you go into some inner city community that has low vaccination rates like Newark or Camden and attempt to impose your will and demand they all comply. Talk is cheap. More like you're going to get somebody else to do the dirty work, right? LOL.

Sure let's just cede all Federal power to the CDC and other agencies in the executive branch and eliminate the legislature and the judicial system.

And re-locate them to different places while spreading the virus across the country. That sounds like a plot from some movie about biological terrorist spreading a deadly infection around the country by sending carriers of the virus to different cities and other places. And the main characters of the film working day and night to foil the plot and save the country. I'd say in that context Joe is the villain of that story line.

I've had the unfortunate experience of frequenting local hospital ER's and ICU's for non-COVID illnesses of family members twice recently and as a result have had a lot of conversation and contact with ICU doctors and nurses. And my niece is a hospital ICU nurse back in Buffalo. They've conveyed stories about their experiences with COVID which was rough last April and with the surge in cases in December/January. Lots of suffering, and long shifts. They also mentioned something which isn't discussed much which is the surge in drug overdoses, alcohol abuse, depression, and suicide cases that have come their way as a result of all the lock downs and social restrictions. Especially in young adults and teens. So there are more social and medical impacts than just counting COVID cases and deaths.

As of 8/5 my home county has not recorded a death in 58 days. 1 death on 6/9. And reports a vaccination rate of 71% of residents receiving at least one dose and 59% being fully vaccinated as of 7/27. This from a place where the initial outbreak during April 2020 was serious. So the takeaway here might be the high vaccination rate is successful in suppressing the outbreak and the low vaccination rates elsewhere are showing up in the current case and death rates elsewhere? That seems a reasonable assumption.

And that's the problem. Its a life and death emergency situation where death is the most likely outcome without some other treatment. And they are running under standard operating procedures without the necessary sense of urgency. What adverse outcome beyond death are they concerned about?

Hospitalized patients that die from COVID "complications" generally die from Cytokine Storm. Which is an overwhelming reaction to the virus by the immune system. There are treatments for this response. One of which is called Lenzulimab. Which met clinical trial endpoints and is also including in other trails being run by NIH. The company submitted an emergency use authorization request to the FDA 10 weeks ago. With no decision yet. This would dramatically cut the death count.

Yup. in 2016 I disliked HRC. She was and is a dishonest grifter. Stuffing her pockets full of cash along with her husband. Such as taking political pay offs with that phony charitable trust. And leaving a curious trail of detractors and witnesses as "suicide" victims in their wake. For good reason she is one of the few people disliked more than Trump. The Dem's would have won the White House in 2016 but the establishment got their candidate. But I hold no love for Trump either regardless of how the ideologues try to pin that label on me as if guilt by accused association somehow invalidates my positions. He's a crude and obnoxious person. I saw him as a fake populist and a primary reason he lost in 2020 was the failure to deliver on any of the populist message he ran on in 2016. Draining the swamp, bringing back jobs, MAGA, all those slogans and rallies that were words that lead to no actions. But he wasn't wrong on every issue as the left is convinced. Or right on every issue as the right is convinced. I didn't vote for either Clinton or Trump in 2016. All Trump did for me was raise my Federal income taxes because of the SALT cap on his "tax reform" bill. I vote for either Trump or Biden in 2020.

Because for reasons never understood, Trump is one of the few Republicans or Conservatives willing to stand up to the leftist ideologists and give it right back to them. As 99.9% of Conservatives and Republicans just roll over and play dead when it comes to providing any resistance to their agenda the left is not used to this push back. Trump's presence has caused the left to act like a spoiled child that suddenly doesn't get their way any longer from mom and dad. Look at how they're still obsessed with Trump. Tweeting all kinds of nonsense like Nazi references and the old stand by racist narrative, jumping up and down, pissing and moaning like he's still running the show. He's in their heads and they can't get hm out. Upon waking each morning they're thinking about Trump. In the last moments of life before death they are probably thinking about Trump. When they get to the after-life they are fearful Trump, and not St. Peter, will greet them. Finally, on the Russia topic, I've recently noticed the local supermarket is now carrying several different brands of Russian salad dressing in the condiment isle. This appears to be suspicious. I am concerned this may be an advanced guard covert operation to make sure popular Russian foods are stocked locally before their invasion begins. Contacting Rep. Schiff's House intelligence committee, the local FBI office, DHS, and the intelligence community may be warranted.

Its a simple question, really. Drug makes do clinical trials, right. And vaccine makers being drug makers performed clinical trials for their COVID vaccines. With me so far. And trials typically consist of three phases, one, two, and three. One for safety, two and three for efficacy. For Pfizer's phase 3 study the reported efficacy rate of their vaccine was of 95%. Which means the vaccine generated antibody protection in 95% of the test subjects. But failed to generate the necessary antibodies in 5% of the subjects and didn't produce the required immunity. So far so good. Then this Oxford study looked at the vaccines effectiveness against the Delta variant and they published the results of their findings. Which showed the Delta variant is resistant to the vaccines. And I asked you if my conclusion of the reduction in effective is wrong then what reduction in efficacy is the "right" number. As the original Pfizer P3 failure rate was 5% and the Delta variant is resistant to the vaccine the effective rate of the vaccine must by definition be less than the 95% in preventing infection based their study. Are you saying the effective against Delta is equal to the original 95% effectiveness? Or don't you know? And if you don't know how can you be sure I'm wrong? So please, all I'm looking for is a number that is greater than 5% but less than 95% that represents the estimated vaccine effectiveness against Delta identified in the Oxford study.

Okay smart guy. What do you think the efficacy rate of the vaccine is against Delta based on that study? Said another way what percentage of the vaccinated population did the study suggest is at risk? For a starting point the efficacy rate of the Pfizer vaccine in P3 trials was stated as 95%. Which means a 5% error rate representing a failure to generate antibodies and immune protection.

Saw this earlier too which means the Pfizer vaccine is 60% effective against Delta vs. the P3 trials data which produced a 95% rate against the original strains. Just to set context that implies 66 million are at risk from Delta of the 165.1 million people the CDC reports as vaccinated. So 2 of every 5 of us that got the shots do not have complete immunity. Watch for the recommendation for boosters in the next 10 days.

I certainly could cite sources and list them one by one but I'm not wasting my time documenting them as I'm 100% certain you will automatically dismiss them. The rest of it is called critical thinking. You should try it. It requires no involvement from anyone but yourself. Its how innovation and new ideas are created. Its the driver of progress. I see confirmed reports of 100's of thousands of immigrants being shipped around the country and combine that with other confirmed reports of high infection rates based on testing and you put 2 + 2 together. Then you see the administration ignoring the infections while pursuing reckless polices of re-settlement of illegals and I conclude they are intentionally spreading the virus. Either that or they are just plain stupid. Take your pick. Either one is bad, Intentionally spreading the virus thru acts of domestic terrorism that cause illness and death or being unfit to lead. And truth is, you have no interest in addressing my conclusions. Because admitting I'm correct, which I am and which you never will admit, conflicts with your ideology. And rather than accept your ideology is flawed you prefer to dismiss facts. Instead you just want to deflect and change the discussion to an argument over sources. Which I will not engage in. You're following 101 basic leftist debate strategy - don't directly address anything, ask questions to deflect the argument off the topic.

What I find most interesting is incompetence of the Republican party leadership as demonstrated by their inability to take advantage of the administrations blunders and incompetence. Its a crap storm of incompetence vs. incompetence. Other then Rand Paul harassing Fauci at scheduled Senate appearances they seem scared to say or do anything. Have they not learned anything from the actions and strategies of the "progressive" left? You're in a gunfight dummies, start shooting!

You know and I know you are never, ever going to admit to what I say no matter what. So what it comes down to is you support Biden, the white supremacist, biological terrorist. Sending infected immigrants into American cities and communities to kill people. Okay, we know where you stand on the subject. Thx..

I asked "Can you explain that?". Let me rephrase the question. Can you explain why the President and those running immigration policy that are willfully and intentionally spreading COVID across the country through known carriers that is resulting in infections and deaths of Americans should not be considered as biological terrorists and arrested? Or forced to resign and if need be impeached from offices for crimes against the American people. Because their polices are killing people. And some wonder why half the country tells the government to go pound it.

UK Oxford study on vaccines and Delta. https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/english-study-finds-50-60-reduced-risk-covid-double-vaccinated-2021-08-03/

This guy is a UC Berkley/Yale educated Washington Post writer. A solid establishment player. What else would you expect him to express? Criticism of the Biden administration for violating and ignoring immigration laws while simultaneously disregarding their own COVID restrictions and edicts as they disperse 100's of thousands of infected illegals across the country resulting in more cases? And why they don't make vaccination a mandatory requirement to enter illegally but are more than happy to entertain forcing legal citizens to get the shot I can't figure. Can you explain that?

The emotion of fear is a powerful thing. In this case an irrational fear of dying from COVID. Specifically frightened healthy vaccinated people that refuse to understand the actual risk to them is much less than the risk fear has caused them to assume concluding that they need to force un-vaccinated people to get the shot so they can be safer. Apparently they don't think the vaccine protects them from infection but forcing other people to get it will.