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Seems relatively frail for an NFL WR. Blocking, beating press, getting redirected on routes might be issues. He might be a special project for strength and conditioning staff.

Hall must ha've a worse medical situation than what we were aware.

It's like they forgot who their audience is and why we're watching on a Saturday afternoon.

I don't know if there is a decent athletic test to simulate contact balance and vision which are way more important than straight line speed. It's tough to imagine that making tacklers miss and knocking them on their butt is a different kind of athleticism that is not reflected in other measurements.

Yeldon is 6' 2" and easy to tackle. Those thick legged, squatty types with a low center of gravity give DBs cause to make a business decision every time he squares them up.

I read somewhere that he has a Beastmode running style.

Moss or Hall?

Somehow we are being messed with. Here is the screenshot I made to post. Maybe the scores of a DE vs. a DT?

A tackle that made some noise. Two big boys coming together.

One way to assess value is to quantify what anyone is willing to pay for it. The value of Diggs = #1, #5, #6 and future #4. You made the comparison. In today's NFL WR are more valuable, you said. Well, they paid 22, 155, 207 and ~140 (2021) which is about 48.3 on the Rich Hill chart. Picks 54 and 86 are 18.0 and 8.6 on the chart, respectively. Diggs will cost ~11 million in cap space and the hypothetical rookie at 54 or 86 is less than 1.5 million. So, the cost of acquisition is no where near equal. What is the same are the reasons for doing it. Adding elite offensive play making talent for the 2020 season which is in the window of a QB on his first contract. This has been a stated priority of Beane and McDermott all off season. Scoring more points in 2020.

I left to look at the numbers. Jackson is 42 + 12 = 54. Josh is 30 + 17 = 47. I'll take lies told about Josh Allen for $800, Alex.

I didn't say he would be. Just that all the reasons that made spending 1, 5 and 6 along with a 4 next year to get Diggs would apply to spending a 2 or 3 on a rb in this draft. See the inbalance in what would be spent to acquire them? Pretty much "nowhere near the value."

There are some who are very against a RB at 2 or 3. Let me make the case in a different way. The rationale for the Stefon Diggs trade was given as filling a roster need for WR1 with an established offensive playmaking talent ready to make an immediate impact on the 2020 season. If you accept that reasoning, it would all apply to a top RB talent in this draft. Rookie RBs are known to be early contributors as pros. Without otas, rookie minicamp and with a possibly shortened training camp, the chance for a rookie to make an impact at other positions would be even more diminished, relatively speaking. They want to add offensive playmaking talent to make the biggest bang for the buck impact starting in 2020. They want to gain the lead and burn the clock to close the deal. They want another option besides Josh to be a between the tackles power runner in short yardage situations. Passing game skills are huge as well and a RB with all-around potential would be great to combine with what Singletary offers.

That would boost the offense in obvious ways.

Dugger is 24 and Chinn is 22. That is a big consideration when comparing prospects in any sport.

I think you make the wrong point about Gurley. He was probably their best offensive player in 2017 and 2018 when he scored 40 tds and had almost 4000 yds from scrimmage. His knee problems at the end of 2018 really hurt their Superbowl chances. If he had shared the load more those years maybe he doesn't break down at the end. He was a huge reason why they got there and their offense hasn't been the same since.

Edmunds was a top 5 pick on many boards and wasn't even 20 years old yet. So, the price to get him at 16 was a chance well taken. Acquire draft capital, properly assign value and recognize when that value far exceeds the draft position. That's the process. Trust that they can manage it well. When the history of this draft is written, it will probably be forgotten that the Diggs trade was essentially a trade up. So the trend has already continued as others have said.

To be fair, Joe mentioned agents not teams. Reminiscent of the music industry payola of the 1950s.

He toasted UB for 8/174/2. I did not see it and suspect it was not televised.

I consulted with the spirit of Vizzini to come to this: Clearly, there is only one position group with an obvious opening and that is RB. Brandon Beane made a point of saying that they had confidence in Yeldon as RB2 and we know that Brandon can't allow himself to lie to the press and fans due to his Christian/Boy Scout character. Thus, he masks his intentions in an blizzard of honest comments but he withholds some. So what is the missing truth? Would they go into 2020 with Yeldon as the primary backup to Devin? Inconceivable! They want to upgrade the offense, add more playmaking talent, score more points, spread the RB workload, add to the positional depth and add a bigger bodied talent that can get tough yards. Doing so on a cheaper rookie deal for four years makes the most sense. The missing truth is that they want an RB1A or RB1B and it's not TJ Yeldon. Clearly, since there was no FA signing and we know that Beane likes to initially fill such holes with a FA signing, they have hopes to fill this spot via the draft and are hoping for a talent the equal of or better than Singletary to make it to within their striking distance. A true downhill runner who qualifies as a legit playmaker. This implies a 2nd or 3rd round pick, imo, and they likely have players targeted at both spots. Given the decline in RB draft status, it's likely that such a top talent could fall to a spot where they could conceivably go up and get him. So, my prediction is RB in round 2 or in round 3 with a trade up involved. If the guy they want makes it to 45ish or 75ish, they would not chance letting him get drafted by someone else. So.... Taylor in the 2nd or Akers in the 3rd.

I had never seen that camera angle before. Nice. Josh could stiff arm a T-Rex. I am sure someone skilled enough could photoshop that. It'd look good on a t-shirt, I think.

Jim Webb is and he got no run in either party. Or take the bpa, best punter available. Probably a good chance to be better than Bojo or so I am told.

Two areas to judge progress apart from supporting cast are ball security and giving his receivers a shot on deep balls. Those are almost 100% on him. I'd argue he got better on the ints after 1st Pats game but he's got to realize that when he is running with it the D is going after the ball because his size and upright style leaves it exposed. That crazy pitch was beyond reckless. He started hitting more deep throws late in the year. Brown vs Steelers, Broncos and Pats, Knox vs. Ravens and Pats, Beasley vs Ravens (dropped.) Like I said, it's on totally on him to be consistently better in those areas and it will be obvious to all of us if he is or not.

There is often a spy there.

I won't confuse my short term happiness with long term success but getting an elite all-around talent at RB, a DB to add to the mix and a rotation worthy DE would be pleasing.